Operation Baby Eagle Prep + Quarantine

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Wife has job training up in New England. Took our daughter to grandparents since I had some work related travel as well and they were en route to training.

Worst timing ever. A day before she leaves COVID starts to enter the US. Now the east coast right near by. I'm going to head out early this week to drive up and pick up my little nugget and bring her home.


1) anything obvious missing from the prep kit below?
2) anyone know what happens if a non-resident is in an area that gets quarantined? Like, lets say NYC, or DC or Richmond or whatever went into quarantine while you were visiting for whatever reason (work, bang hoes, pick up your child before she turns into liberal zombie, etc). My biggest fear, and the reason i can't not do this, is if things got crazy and there were domestic travel bans while my daughter is 600+ miles away.


**Of note: Im getting her. its not a matter of if, and I know the chances are low that things will develop to that extent in the next 10 days, but im not asking nor care what opinions are on my doing this, only about practicalities while I AM on the trip.


I understand this is mostly overkill. But I'm assuming the worst--ie quarantine along way or at destination and I need to backroad things and potentially take 2+ days getting back home. Reason for the full face gas masks is that's all I have outside of the few remaining N95s.

LOADOUT:
  • Social work tools
    • Mossberg shockwave w/ Laserlyte (multi-beam laser) --50-state legal as far as im aware (definitely at my destination(s)
    • Glock 19x w/ 10 rnd mags (and licensed to carry at destination)
    • AR500 body armor
    • loaded mags and shells in separate locked box
  • Medical defense
    • Pack of N95 masks
    • 2x CBRN full face masks w/ CBRN 40mm NATO filters (extra in case wife ends up part of the journey)
    • 1x protective over garment
    • Few cheap plastic ponchos to emulate actual suit
    • pack of heavy duty med gloves
    • protective eyewear
    • Antiseptic wipes
    • antiseptic gel
  • Medical Response
    • Travel med kit with all the basics
    • bottle of pediatric cold and flu
    • bottle of adult mucinex cold and flu
    • blood clotting agents
    • liquid bandage
    • Antiseptic mouth wash
    • hydrogen peroxide
  • Human needs
    • Variety of food
    • Variety of drinks
    • diapers
    • Thermal blankets
    • 3x flashlights
    • 3x battery bank (total ~40k mAh)
  • Vehicle needs
    • 2x flat tire fill foam stuff
    • 1x spare tire
    • default tire change gear (should I add anything? socket wrench or something easier?)
  • Misc
    • Glow sticks
    • manual crank radio
    • Duct tape
    • Cash

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I think you’re batshit crazy to be worried about it, but since you are I would add a fixed blade knife, a small hatchet, and a couple ways to start a fire. Not sure about the nomenclature on your list, but I’d add a second spare tire, a plug kit and a pump that runs off the cig lighter. Probably add a spray can of lysol. Maybe some baby wipes. Road flares?

obviously you can’t take everything if you have to leave the car, so don’t leave the car.
 
First, I wish the best for your family and your little one. Travel safe.

Second, I believe you were the one who is happy to carry large consumer electronics through the parking lot at Walmart at midnight..

Just sayin'
I think you’re batshit crazy to be worried about it, .
 
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I think you’re batshit crazy to be worried about it, but since you are I would add a fixed blade knife, a small hatchet, and a couple ways to start a fire. Not sure about the nomenclature on your list, but I’d add a second spare tire, a plug kit and a pump that runs off the cig lighter. Probably add a spray can of lysol. Maybe some baby wipes. Road flares?

obviously you can’t take everything if you have to leave the car, so don’t leave the car.

2 year old daughter tends to make a man batshit. Especially when she’s in one of the highest population and travel flux parts of the country.

I have spray and fixed blade (forgot to list). Fire I have some lighters in pouch in car always and a glass break tool with magnesium strip inside handle as well (another always in car item).

don’t have another spare tire not room for one (big Jeep tires). I’m also using this opportunity to bring back items we couldn’t fit during the move so that takes up space as well.

when you say pump, I assume you talking about tire inflation? I currently have 2 of those bottles of flat tire spray (I think it injects foam into tire and seals it).

thanks for input!
 
First, I wish the best for your family and your little one. Travel safe.

Second, I believe you were the one who is happy to carry large consumer electronics through the parking lot at Walmart at midnight..

Just sayin'

lol I am, but fail to see the connection? TV 13 min from house and daughter 600 miles away while population starting to panic about a flu pandemic? What am I missing.
 
lol I am, but fail to see the connection? TV 13 min from house and daughter 600 miles away while population starting to panic about a flu pandemic? What am I missing.
Your somewhat erratic pattern of risk aversions.

And yet, I don’t blame you one bit for wanting to protect your little one.
 
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id replace most of that with some hand sanitizer.

you know - flu season and all.
 
Do you have a plan for comms if the cellular system fails? I see you have most everything covered except communication.

As far as modding your list, a 4 way lug wrench and a jack that is worth a shit if you plan on actually having to change a tire. You have a jeep and no Hi lift jack?!?
 
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First, I wish the best for your family and your little one. Travel safe.

Second, I believe you were the one that said it was ridiculous when I said you should carry two guns into Walmart.

Just sayin'
Only two, this must be a walmart inside the containment area.

I work an hour away from home, it would take approximately two to three days to get home if I had to hoof it. I have a laminated map and supplies for the just in case.
I saw Charlotte get shut down over rioting in just hours, and just thought man what if you were there on business and did not have a proper mindset. I try to always have a plan, even when we travel long distances and try to adjust accordingly.

Wife has job training up in New England. Took our daughter to grandparents since I had some work related travel as well and they were en route to training.

Worst timing ever. A day before she leaves COVID starts to enter the US. Now the east coast right near by. I'm going to head out early this week to drive up and pick up my little nugget and bring her home.


1) anything obvious missing from the prep kit below?
2) anyone know what happens if a non-resident is in an area that gets quarantined? Like, lets say NYC, or DC or Richmond or whatever went into quarantine while you were visiting for whatever reason (work, bang hoes, pick up your child before she turns into liberal zombie, etc). My biggest fear, and the reason i can't not do this, is if things got crazy and there were domestic travel bans while my daughter is 600+ miles away.


**Of note: Im getting her. its not a matter of if, and I know the chances are low that things will develop to that extent in the next 10 days, but im not asking nor care what opinions are on my doing this, only about practicalities while I AM on the trip.


I understand this is mostly overkill. But I'm assuming the worst--ie quarantine along way or at destination and I need to backroad things and potentially take 2+ days getting back home. Reason for the full face gas masks is that's all I have outside of the few remaining N95s.

LOADOUT:
  • Social work tools
    • Mossberg shockwave w/ Laserlyte (multi-beam laser) --50-state legal as far as im aware (definitely at my destination(s)
    • Glock 19x w/ 10 rnd mags (and licensed to carry at destination)
    • AR500 body armor
    • loaded mags and shells in separate locked box
  • Medical defense
    • Pack of N95 masks
    • 2x CBRN full face masks w/ CBRN 40mm NATO filters (extra in case wife ends up part of the journey)
    • 1x protective over garment
    • Few cheap plastic ponchos to emulate actual suit
    • pack of heavy duty med gloves
    • protective eyewear
    • Antiseptic wipes
    • antiseptic gel
  • Medical Response
    • Travel med kit with all the basics
    • bottle of pediatric cold and flu
    • bottle of adult mucinex cold and flu
    • blood clotting agents
    • liquid bandage
    • Antiseptic mouth wash
    • hydrogen peroxide
  • Human needs
    • Variety of food
    • Variety of drinks
    • diapers
    • Thermal blankets
    • 3x flashlights
    • 3x battery bank (total ~40k mAh)
  • Vehicle needs
    • 2x flat tire fill foam stuff
    • 1x spare tire
    • default tire change gear (should I add anything? socket wrench or something easier?)
  • Misc
    • Glow sticks
    • manual crank radio
    • Duct tape
    • Cash

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So is this situation, massive quarantine, road blocks, limited travel,......
I'm taking my ar, leagel or not I dont care it is comming. With two battle load outs, spare parts, the whole enchilada type of thinking.

If were talking for just plain travel and nothing being two crazy then you load out is fine but I dont really see any communication needs being met.
Might want a hand help cb or baofeng or both.
 
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I think you’re batshit crazy to be worried about it, but since you are I would add a fixed blade knife, a small hatchet, and a couple ways to start a fire. Not sure about the nomenclature on your list, but I’d add a second spare tire, a plug kit and a pump that runs off the cig lighter. Probably add a spray can of lysol. Maybe some baby wipes. Road flares?

obviously you can’t take everything if you have to leave the car, so don’t leave the car.

would also like to clarify I’m not worried about the flu, I’m worried about people and their reactions and the feed-forward effect that has on panic and disruption.

if I caught the virus I would likely just have a shorty 2 week chest cold at my age. Not a lot about effect in children yet but rather not take chance there for no reason (hence medical defense items). Really, I just don’t want her 609 miles away and too late to do anything about it if people and or municipal govs disrupt things at scale
 
Do you have a plan for comms if the cellular system fails? I see you have most everything covered except communication.

not really. I have 2way radios but that doesn’t do me any good.

what kind of comma would work at such distance when others are out of order?

I’m interested in general, but if global coms are down within 10 days then we all have some serious problems to plan for, ha
 
Only two, this must be a walmart inside the containment area.

I work an hour away from home, it would take approximately two to three days to get home if I had to hoof it. I have a laminated map and supplies for the just in case.
I saw Charlotte get shut down over rioting in just hours, and just thought man what if you were there on business and did not have a proper mindset. I try to always have a plan, even when we travel long distances and try to adjust accordingly.


So is this situation, massive quarantine, road blocks, limited travel,......
I'm taking my ar, leagel or not I dont care it is comming. With two battle load outs, spare parts, the whole enchilada type of thinking.

If were talking for just plain travel and nothing being two crazy then you load out is fine but I dont really see any communication needs being met.
Might want a hand help cb or baofeng or both.

apparently I have a lot to learn about comms, but for this trip my o my intended passenger can only say “snack, snack, snackkkkkk!!!” And only other important person (the mother) will be states away as trip goes on.

as for protection load out, I need to hedge future realities. It’s more likely that within 10 days I would not be driving thru quarantines and mayhem than the reverse. So I concluded that police would still care about dumb ass gun laws if I were to interact with them under the most probable scenarios. I would much prefer my AR given many many thousands of rounds of training on it versus few dozen on the shockwave. Hmmm
 
not sure what key is you referring to but will look into it. Good call on filter, no reason not to. Have a few life straws on hand.
They are very cheap, used to open water Spicket behind most commercial, municipal and industrial buildings. Really good tool to have an a prep kit. Makes getting water very easy.
 
not sure what key is you referring to but will look into it. Good call on filter, no reason not to. Have a few life straws on hand.
It’s a key that allows you to turn water on at an outside spigot, typically commercial properties. It prevents scofflaws from stealing water to fill their mobile detail tanks, etc.

Edit: what he said^^
 
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Your somewhat erratic pattern of risk aversions.

And yet, I don’t blame you one bit for wanting to protect your little one.

scale. A lone or cluster of hooligans is predictable and avoidable...or defensible. When soccer moms start cannibalizing people because they decided prepping is for losers and so only has 3 boxes of hot pockets in fridge to feed 4 teenagers and her douchebag liberal husband... that turns things upside down.

Also, I don’t particularly enjoy going to Walmart in Durham at night on most occasions, I just won’t let it stop me from getting what I want.
 
They are very cheap, used to open water Spicket behind most commercial, municipal and industrial buildings. Really good tool to have an a prep kit. Makes getting water very easy.
Uhhh yeah, wow. I’m embarrassed to have never heard of it. Will definitely be ordering one of those.
 
not really. I have 2way radios but that doesn’t do me any good.

what kind of comma would work at such distance when others are out of order?

I’m interested in general, but if global coms are down within 10 days then we all have some serious problems to plan for, ha

CB would be your only viable legal option if you don't have an FCC ticket.

A baofeng or other cheap handheld 2m/70cm radio would be good to have to monitor local repeaters for information or make an emergency transmission if things fell into chaos. HF radio/antennas for regional/global comms . You would have a ton of info to learn in a very short period of time to deploy anything effective for any communication past a few miles.
 
would also like to clarify I’m not worried about the flu, I’m worried about people and their reactions and the feed-forward effect that has on panic and disruption.
Exactly. This is spot on and whit freight already being affected by this and supplies in some places being down you will see people freak out when they cant get there what ever it is.

For those who dont know, I work in the trucking industry and deal with mutiple large business that haul everything from jet fuel to condoms. The point is that right now no one and I do mean almost no one is hauling freight, it's not paying cause the loads are to small or are under-paid.
Last week alone I had three companies(large 500 plus truck companies) talk about paid leave for drivers, or extended home time for drivers.
The kung pow flu is not my major concern, it's what the fear mongering and it is doing to the economy.

apparently I have a lot to learn about comms, but for this trip my o my intended passenger can only say “snack, snack, snackkkkkk!!!” And only other important person (the mother) will be states away as trip goes on.

as for protection load out, I need to hedge future realities. It’s more likely that within 10 days I would not be driving thru quarantines and mayhem than the reverse. So I concluded that police would still care about dumb ass gun laws if I were to interact with them under the most probable scenarios. I would much prefer my AR given many many thousands of rounds of training on it versus few dozen on the shockwave. Hmmm
Since what I said about you seemed fine except for coms.
And the coms are necessarily to talk to others, it's just to get news on what is going on in the area. Hand held cb radios are not expensive and can be found at most truck stops.
 
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Exactly. This is spot on and whit freight already being affected by this and supplies in some places being down you will see people freak out when they cant get there what ever it is.

For those who dont know, I work in the trucking industry and deal with mutiple large business that haul everything from jet fuel to condoms. The point is that right now no one and I do mean almost no one is hauling freight, it's not paying cause the loads are to small or are under-paid.
Last week alone I had three companies(large 500 plus truck companies) talk about paid leave for drivers, or extended home time for drivers.
The kung pow flu is not my major concern, it's what the fear mongering and it is doing to the economy.


Since what I said about you seemed fine except for coms.
And the coms are necessarily to talk to others, it's just to get news on what is going on in the area. Hand held cb radios are not expensive and can be found at most truck stops.


Interesting...how often would you say you observe this kind of slow down in trucking?

what I’m really trying to ask, is, in your professional opinion, does this imply what’s on the shelves in stores is all that is available for some time? And what does that time look like against supply chain picking back up usually?
 
You mentioned Richmond, DC and NYC so I’m guessing up I-95 ... you already know they are not firearm friendly most of the way up so make sure you store your firearms and ammo accordingly when behind enemy lines ... NYC doesn’t like the Federal Firearm Owner Protection Act and neither does NJ or DC and MD is right behind them.

Personally I’d try to plan my gas and “rest” stops as best as I could ... I know a little one will not always allow that ... in more friendly areas if possible. If you are driving straight thru, I hope you can, don’t be tempted to do the “5mph over” to make time ... especially if you’re running NC plates now.
 
Interesting...how often would you say you observe this kind of slow down in trucking?
In three years I have not seen it like this, they said it wasnt this bad in an Obama economy. Its like everything shut off around the middle of January. We were slammed up until then, we were telling people that we were a least a week out and then all at once it all changed.
If a load isnt paying, companies are not going to loose money and cause ware and tare on a truck to move product, especially one way.

Edit: places like costco, walmart, (the biggest of the big bix stores) have there own fleet, its the other places like lowes and your mom and pops that hire it out to places like Old Dominion, Best, ect.
 
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@Sigequinox220 the only thing I can think of to suggest is to divide your supplies k to two groups, one vehicle based and another in a backpack or bag you van grab and go if you wind up on foot. If you are on foot, you won’t be able to take it all so plan now, not then.
You would have a ton of info to learn in a very short period of time to deploy anything effective for any communication past a few miles.
We (VE team) have commented frequently about the number of people who get a tech license (if they even bother) and buy a Baofeng for SHTF planning and never get on the air. It takes A LOT more to become proficient in communications.
 
I understand this is mostly overkill.
No it's not. This is Preparation for Contingencies, not for what you think is likely to happen. Clearly, you expect to be able to drive there, get yer kid and return without incident.

Only two recommendations:

1. I always take my little possibles bag with three ways of making fire and a good knife. In other words, go prepared to spend a night or two outside.

2. Plan your route to avoid places that, even in normal times, are unfriendly. If possible, do not travel through MD, NJ, NY, etc. If you are going to New England, highway 81 is your friend. Rural PA, rural NY and rural MA are far better routes than I-95 through the cities of those states.
 
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You know that I was just half busting yer chops.

one nice thing about children is that the only thing they know about is what they need, so stock more snacks and drinks than you think you’ll need. I’d also take some Benadryl for her unless you’re fundamentally opposed to dosing her to help her sleep. Got something to entertain her?

I second everyone else's comments about taking an AR, but pack it deep in a locked suitcase and avoid urban areas of you can.
 
apparently I have a lot to learn about comms, but for this trip my o my intended passenger can only say “snack, snack, snackkkkkk!!!” And only other important person (the mother) will be states away as trip goes on.

as for protection load out, I need to hedge future realities. It’s more likely that within 10 days I would not be driving thru quarantines and mayhem than the reverse. So I concluded that police would still care about dumb ass gun laws if I were to interact with them under the most probable scenarios. I would much prefer my AR given many many thousands of rounds of training on it versus few dozen on the shockwave. Hmmm

I wouldn't worry about following state/local gun laws if I was headed to grab a family member from quarintine. If things are bad enough that you need armor etc guns laws are a moot point. No reason to have them if you arent going to use them.
 
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Wife has job training up in New England. Took our daughter to grandparents since I had some work related travel as well and they were en route to training.

Worst timing ever. A day before she leaves COVID starts to enter the US. Now the east coast right near by. I'm going to head out early this week to drive up and pick up my little nugget and bring her home.


1) anything obvious missing from the prep kit below?
2) anyone know what happens if a non-resident is in an area that gets quarantined? Like, lets say NYC, or DC or Richmond or whatever went into quarantine while you were visiting for whatever reason (work, bang hoes, pick up your child before she turns into liberal zombie, etc). My biggest fear, and the reason i can't not do this, is if things got crazy and there were domestic travel bans while my daughter is 600+ miles away.


**Of note: Im getting her. its not a matter of if, and I know the chances are low that things will develop to that extent in the next 10 days, but im not asking nor care what opinions are on my doing this, only about practicalities while I AM on the trip.


I understand this is mostly overkill. But I'm assuming the worst--ie quarantine along way or at destination and I need to backroad things and potentially take 2+ days getting back home. Reason for the full face gas masks is that's all I have outside of the few remaining N95s.

LOADOUT:
  • Social work tools
    • Mossberg shockwave w/ Laserlyte (multi-beam laser) --50-state legal as far as im aware (definitely at my destination(s)
    • Glock 19x w/ 10 rnd mags (and licensed to carry at destination)
    • AR500 body armor
    • loaded mags and shells in separate locked box
  • Medical defense
    • Pack of N95 masks
    • 2x CBRN full face masks w/ CBRN 40mm NATO filters (extra in case wife ends up part of the journey)
    • 1x protective over garment
    • Few cheap plastic ponchos to emulate actual suit
    • pack of heavy duty med gloves
    • protective eyewear
    • Antiseptic wipes
    • antiseptic gel
  • Medical Response
    • Travel med kit with all the basics
    • bottle of pediatric cold and flu
    • bottle of adult mucinex cold and flu
    • blood clotting agents
    • liquid bandage
    • Antiseptic mouth wash
    • hydrogen peroxide
  • Human needs
    • Variety of food
    • Variety of drinks
    • diapers
    • Thermal blankets
    • 3x flashlights
    • 3x battery bank (total ~40k mAh)
  • Vehicle needs
    • 2x flat tire fill foam stuff
    • 1x spare tire
    • default tire change gear (should I add anything? socket wrench or something easier?)
  • Misc
    • Glow sticks
    • manual crank radio
    • Duct tape
    • Cash

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You need to add a baseball bat to the list.

nothing say more love the a whopping with a bat.

Clear a hallway or a room quick.
 
I wouldn't worry about following state/local gun laws if I was headed to grab a family member from quarintine. If things are bad enough that you need armor etc guns laws are a moot point. No reason to have them if you arent going to use them.

No offense intended here, but I don't understand this. Do you wear a seat belt? Have a fire extinguisher? Conceal carry? Have extra medicine? I do just in case I need to use it. Hopefully the need will not arise, but its there if it should come to it. Have it and not need it or need it and not have it. Your choice
 
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No offense intended here, but I don't understand this. Do you wear a seat belt? Have a fire extinguisher? Conceal carry? Have extra medicine? I do just in case I need to use it. Hopefully the need will not arise, but its there if it should come to it. Have it and not need it or need it and not have it. Your choice
I may have phrased things poorly. The OP stated that he would prefer to carry an AR-15 due to familiarity but would not due to local and state laws. IMHO it is pointless to own and train for such a situation with a weapon and not use it for fear of breaking a dipshit law.
 
I may have phrased things poorly. The OP stated that he would prefer to carry an AR-15 due to familiarity but would not due to local and state laws. IMHO it is pointless to own and train for such a situation with a weapon and not use it for fear of breaking a dipshit law.

Even if I allegedly were I allegedly wouldn’t. But that is also why I have many tools of the trade, to be able to respond to situations accordingly.

if she was is a locked down area, absolutely no doubt wouldn’t care. after 15 years of wanting out, finally made it TFO of there lol I don’t take it for granted. I love N.C. and want to make it back without incident of any kind.

I have all the related ATF documents printed and in my car that cover my AR Other from the move down here, but Mossberg shockwave is not only massively popular, but I have a single ATF form addressed directly to Mossberg with all clear.

I have the transfer carbon copy ANd receipt of purchase FROM the destination state. My biggest fear is DC and NYC where the verbiage is “legal where you reside and where you going”...please tell me how the F%#* some beat cop is supposed to know that and who the burden of proof is on for that when 24 year old in patrol cruiser from a municipal jurisdiction supposed to know more about the convoluted gun laws than a lawyer from the originating state. It’s nonsense, but the ignorant “arrest”is equally as scary as the flu induced “unrest”

if I could have it my way I would never have to go back to or through those liberal crap holes ever again.
 
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...when you say pump, I assume you talking about tire inflation? I currently have 2 of those bottles of flat tire spray (I think it injects foam into tire and seals it).

@hp468 mentioned a Hi-Lift jack. I have one if you need one. PM for info.
 
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My $0.02 worth: if possible do not go up I-95, or even through the coastal states (esp. MD, NJ, CT, MA). Take the western route up I-81.
 
I off road a bunch. I have never once needed a high lift. You can't raise your rig unless you have bumpers with contact points or the wheel buddy. I've had both and still never needed one. I've been doing it for 20 years
 
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