Oregon DemoRats Rammed Through GUN CONFISCATION BILL, and How A Republican Helped.

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Early statements from Oregon Firearms Federation included “Senate Bill 868 allows police or family members to request that a court force you to relinquish all firearms based on the accusers perception that you are dangerous to yourself or others. It does not require that you have committed a crime, it does not require that you have been convicted of a crime, and one of the indicators that you are “dangerous” is that you have purchased or attempted to purchase a firearm or ammunition in the last 180 days. Of course, this bill contains nothing that would allow for a person who really was a danger to himself to access any kind of help.”

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Yeah it sucks, nothing better than having your right to due process stripped away. We are also having issues getting the mossberg shockwave and remington tac14 approved for transfer though the Oregon state police background check. See below from our wonderful Gov Kate. Should have jumped on this earlier.

July 5, 2017

TO ALL OREGON FIREARM DEALERS:

As of Friday, June 30, 2017 the Oregon State Police Firearms Unit began
delaying the transfer of all Mossberg 590 Shockwaves and Remington 870 TAC-14s pending a review by the Oregon Department of Justice regarding the legal status of such
firearms under Oregon law.

As you may know these firearms first came into the market in 2017 and the ATF has advised that these firearms are eligible for transfer/possession under federal law. However, recently a concern as to whether these firearms are also eligible under Oregon statute has come into question. The Oregon Department of Justice has committed to a speedy review and determination of the eligibility to possess/import/transfer this type of firearm under state law. Oregon State Police will provide an update as soon as a determination has been reached.

It is important to note that a delay in these instances is regarding the firearm itself and may not pertain to the purchaser. Until further notice and pending legal review, the OSP FICS Unit will provide a clear response to all background check requests that the delay is related to the firearm only.

Thank you for your patience during the review of this important public safety
matter.
 
Yeah it sucks, nothing better than having your right to due process stripped away. We are also having issues getting the mossberg shockwave and remington tac14 approved for transfer though the Oregon state police background check. See below from our wonderful Gov Kate. Should have jumped on this earlier.

July 5, 2017

TO ALL OREGON FIREARM DEALERS:

As of Friday, June 30, 2017 the Oregon State Police Firearms Unit began
delaying the transfer of all Mossberg 590 Shockwaves and Remington 870 TAC-14s pending a review by the Oregon Department of Justice regarding the legal status of such
firearms under Oregon law.

As you may know these firearms first came into the market in 2017 and the ATF has advised that these firearms are eligible for transfer/possession under federal law. However, recently a concern as to whether these firearms are also eligible under Oregon statute has come into question. The Oregon Department of Justice has committed to a speedy review and determination of the eligibility to possess/import/transfer this type of firearm under state law. Oregon State Police will provide an update as soon as a determination has been reached.

It is important to note that a delay in these instances is regarding the firearm itself and may not pertain to the purchaser. Until further notice and pending legal review, the OSP FICS Unit will provide a clear response to all background check requests that the delay is related to the firearm only.

Thank you for your patience during the review of this important public safety
matter.


Oregon State police background check.....

Weren't those guys involved in a background check on some ranchers?
 
Oregon's folks that live on the Eastern side of the State may have to start their own secession movement. Just like other places the larger cities drive the politics. But there is a lot of rural out a ways. Hope they start to raise a little hell. And maybe a little nn compiance with other laws is in order.
 
Oregon State police background check.....

Weren't those guys involved in a background check on some ranchers?

Yep, they were with the FBI. If it were left up to the local police this would have never gotten out of hand.

Fun fact - Whenever you have a firearm transferred to you in Oregon be it public or private you are required to pay the OSP $10 for them to do a background check on you. It's a nice tax on your federal rights. If you are a CCW holder you still have to do it but you are automatically put at the top of the queue for approval so at least you don't have to wait to leave with your firearm.
 
So exactly how long does it take for the Oregon special police folks to figure out if two guns that are allowed under federal law fail to comply with OR law? If it takes more than a day or two then either the special police folks are indeed "special" or the law lacks clarity.
 
Attempt to confiscate them because someone just decided that you're a dangerous person and reported you? One that sounds a lot like Salem MA in the 1600's. Two, it sounds like a good way to get your stupid ass shot to death by the dangerous person you just created by trying to steal from them under the FARCE of "law".
 
Every time I see something like this I always think to myself, how long will people tolerate this? How long before there is a violent backlash? It has to be getting close.
 
Every time I see something like this I always think to myself, how long will people tolerate this? How long before there is a violent backlash? It has to be getting close.
I've started wondering this about a lot of things. Out of control government in general that is: spying, violating due process, getting involved in and trying to regulate all sorts of areas it shouldn't, policing for profit (traffic), committing strong armed robbery, engaging in foreign wars it has no business getting into, mandating people purchase products, and the list goes on. At the state and local levels it's just as bad. The nations founders rose up for far less than we contend with daily.

We have large segments of the population that don't identify as a common culture. Large numbers have no faith in the country and don't see its "rulers" as representing them. Many have no hope or prospects for the future and are kept placated by handouts stolen from productive people. There is a tremendous class, opportunity and wealth divide.... The political system can't effect change. I'm sure you're getting the picture.

Now, the fringes are starting to act out. Politicians and police (the force arm of those politicians) are getting attacked and killed with increasing frequency. People are arming up and preparing for a collapse and period of WROL.

It's only a matter of time before an event sets things in motion for the big one. The thing is that history has shown that the exact event that ignites the conflagration is something unknowable in advance, but it often something that at another time would fizzle but in the right environment, like now, causes change.
 
Attempt to confiscate them because someone just decided that you're a dangerous person and reported you? One that sounds a lot like Salem MA in the 1600's. Two, it sounds like a good way to get your stupid ass shot to death by the dangerous person you just created by trying to steal from them under the FARCE of "law".

What was that quote I made up y'all liked so good...

When they surreptitiously legislate, creating unconstitutional laws, thus unnecessarily turning you into a criminal; show them a criminal and take it to their @$$3$ wholesale. It IS what your forefathers did when faced with like terms.
 
What was that quote I made up y'all liked so good...

When they surreptitiously legislate, creating unconstitutional laws, thus unnecessarily turning you into a criminal; show them a criminal and take it to their @$$3$ wholesale. It IS what your forefathers did when faced with like terms.
Very nice.
Mine is similar, yet not so eloquent;

You want a reason to hate me, I'll give you one.
 
This is a long read but the whole thing is gross and is a perfect example of why we all must remain vigilant and to never allow them an inch.

The Oregon legislature just passed a gun control measure that substantially weakens constitutional rights. Senate Bill 719 will allow a family member or a police officer to obtain a civil court order immediately stripping someone of the right to possess a firearm for up to a year, if a judge finds the person presents a danger to himself or others.

Proponents hail the law as an effective way to prevent suicides. Sen. Brian Boquist (R-Dallas) argues that it will bring the number of veteran suicides down. Gun control crusader Gabrielle Giffords has called it a "responsible bill that helps keep guns out of the hands of individuals who are experiencing a mental health crisis."

Paul Phillips, president of the group Oregon Gun Owners, retorts that the bill does little to prevent suicides but does deprive gun owners of basic constitutional protections. Gun confiscations under SB 719 will be "based on hearsay evidence alone, and the firearm owner is not privy to a fair trial," he says.

According to the bill, any law enforcement officer and family member—including partners, siblings, or even roommates—can request a hearing with a judge to get a "extreme risk protection order." If issued, this would prohibit a person from possessing or purchasing a firearm.

At that hearing, which has to be held within one judical day of being requested, the judge will decide whether to issue the order, which goes into effect immediately.

The subject of the order has no right to contest it before it is issued. He can pursue an appeals process afterward, which is a bit like having the right to a jury trial after you've already been sent to prison.

Meanwhile, some of the things a judge can consider while deciding whether to grant one of these orders are not related to suicide, such as past drunk driving arrests or recent drug use, or are totally legitimate exercises of one's Second Amendment rights, such as trying to buy a gun in the past 180 days.

Ironically, given Giffords' reference to "a mental health crisis," one of the few things the judge is prohibited from considering is "any mental health diagnosis or any connection between the risk presented by the respondent and mental illness."

No small amount of procedural shenanigans were used to get this bill through the Oregon legislature in the final few days of the legislative session. Upon it passing the Senate, SB 719 was sent not to the House Judiciary Committee—which usually handles criminal legislation, but is chaired by pro–Second Amendment Democrat Jeff Barker—but rather to the House Rules Committee. That committee's chair decided to forgo a public hearing on the bill, and instead passed it out of committee the day before July 4, when half the Republicans committee members had already gone home.

The bill now goes to Gov. Kate Brown, who is expected to sign it. Once she does, Oregon gun owners will be at the mercy of jurists like Judge Kenneth Walker, who said in court last year that "no one would have guns—not police, not security. We should eliminate all of them."
 
Understand - politicians will do what is politically expedient, without hesitation, without fail, and without an ounce of guilt.

No man's Rights are safe when a legislature is in session, regardless of the letter that says who's in the majority.

As others have said - we are approaching a tipping point in history. How we decide, what we choose, to be Free Men or slaves, will be what people generations from now remember about us.

Are we there yet? I don't think so - not yet. The suffering is still sufferable, for better or worse.

There is one thing of which I am absolutely certain:

Being a law abiding citizen in a society in which the corrupt write the laws is no virtue.
 
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You say a lot of smart things. This one is in your top 5.

Thanks - though I cannot take full credit. A friend of mine from my Navy days said something really similar the other day and I've been noodling on it a lot. I've said the same kinds of things differently in the past, but never captured it quite the way he did.

It's not an exact quote I don't think, but it's close.
 
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