Physician chokes nurse....

What kind of doctor is running around turning off necessary monitoring equipment? It seems like this should get you a serious reprimand or revocation of license from the medical board. I can't imagine the fallout if I ran around a job site intentionally f'ing up construction of a bridge. I wouldn't have a job long, that's for sure.
 
When I worked security at a bar in downtown Charlotte, one of the other guys was an ED RN. He was on suspension?, for punching a patient. This guy was pretty level headed. I'd say the patient hopped up on dope or whatever probably deserved it.
 
That scene plays out daily in my head, but that's where it stays.
 
LizardKing said:
When I worked security at a bar in downtown Charlotte, one of the other guys was an ED RN. He was on suspension?, for punching a patient. This guy was pretty level headed. I'd say the patient hopped up on dope or whatever probably deserved it.
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When I was in the ED I did plenty of, ahem, hard takedowns, on combative/violent patients. But punch? Never. I have seen several ED nurses get assaulted by patients, and until recently, leadership just chalks it up to being part of the job, but the culture is changing, and now the patients are being charged with assault/battery.

When I was in the mil I was trained in escalation of violence and how to ramp up and down given the situation, and applied that to EMS and the ED, but nurses are not trained for that. The pretty young 22 year-old newly-graduated nurse coming straight from sorority row getting thrown into the ED psych eval is no bueno....

There was a trauma surgeon at Duke who assaulted an OR nurse. Her husband was a state trooper; ol' doc was arrested within the hour. An ICU intensivist slapped a nurse; he was canned that day.
 
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noway2 said:
@Chuckman what to you think is the cause of this violent behavior? Poor emotional IQ coupled with being on the pedestal of God complex?
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Historically, yes. The culture of medicine is slowly changing, and the starkness of the old-school vertical relationships where physicians roost on the top is no longer the case....it is more of a horizontal relationship where physicians are peers with nurses, and other staff. Some specialties are just worse than others--surgeons are worse than pediatricians--but even then surgeons are changing, slowly.
 
Climberman said:
What kind of doctor is running around turning off necessary monitoring equipment? It seems like this should get you a serious reprimand or revocation of license from the medical board. I can't imagine the fallout if I ran around a job site intentionally f'ing up construction of a bridge. I wouldn't have a job long, that's for sure.
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Only to disappear and surface in another state to continue to practice 'medicine'. The White Coats hide bad doctors, like the Blue Shield hides bad police.
 
Button Pusher said:
Only to disappear and surface in another state to continue to practice 'medicine'. The White Coats hide bad doctors, like the Blue Shield hides bad police.
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This is becoming less and less the case: now that patient satisfaction is tied to reimbursement, practices and hospitals are steering clear of liabilities and money-drainers.
 
Derek8404 said:
God help the doctor that ever puts his hands on my wife.....
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The guy in my post above, the trauma doc in the OR, the nurse's husband, the state trooper, called his friends with DPD, and the arrest was apparently pretty spectacular and not gentle, with the doc kicking and screaming the whole way. Yeah, no one will touch my wife that way. No one will touch me that way.
 
Chuckman said:
The guy in my post above, the trauma doc in the OR, the nurse's husband, the state trooper, called his friends with DPD, and the arrest was apparently pretty spectacular and not gentle, with the doc kicking and screaming the whole way. Yeah, no one will touch my wife that way. No one will touch me that way.
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That’s awesome, good for him.
 
I recently filed a complaint on an OR doc with the hospital and the medical board. The hospital says they will talk to him but their docs are contracted and not straight employees so they don't have to listen. The medical board has not responded at all.

Some docs I have dealt with expect to be worshiped and their opinion be held sacrosanct.
 
Chuckman said:
The guy in my post above, the trauma doc in the OR, the nurse's husband, the state trooper, called his friends with DPD, and the arrest was apparently pretty spectacular and not gentle, with the doc kicking and screaming the whole way. Yeah, no one will touch my wife that way. No one will touch me that way.
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I remember that one. I was a RN on the trauma ICU at the time and we all applauded, He was a really SOB
 
In my roughly 26 years of EMS and or fire department work, I can't say that I have ever seen a a physical assault by other staff members. Snide remarks or insulting comments sure, plenty. I have, and have been witness too, many assaults on EMS personnel, nurses, Dr.'s, resp. therapist, etc... by the high quality of patients that we seem to be in the presence of at 2-3 A.M.
 
J R Green said:
I recently filed a complaint on an OR doc with the hospital and the medical board. The hospital says they will talk to him but their docs are contracted and not straight employees so they don't have to listen. The medical board has not responded at all.

Some docs I have dealt with expect to be worshiped and their opinion be held sacrosanct.
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If a complaint was because a doc was an a-hole*, they may or may not do anything. If there was breach of duty, performance issue, harm, etc., they will definitely investigate. The medical board takes complaints seriously, but like any active investigation, no one will know what's going on until they have a conclusion.

*A-holes abound in medicine, and in nursing, and in every field. But they are getting increasingly marginalized. When I am around one of those types of docs (which you describe) I call them by their first name. It burns their chaps, but they can't do anything about it.
 
My last doc experience was my ortho doc. He was a combat surgeon prior to going into private practice. Hands down one of the coolest guys I’ve ever met. I don’t know that I’ve ever come across a doc that wasn’t level-headed and so my assumption was that they all were like that.

Apparently I was mistaken.
 
noway2 said:
@Chuckman what to you think is the cause of this violent behavior? Poor emotional IQ coupled with being on the pedestal of God complex?
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that is a perfect way to describe most docs I know. The sense of entitlement and the "MD-eity" complex is ridiculous.
 
I guess I've been very lucky, first I've been healthy so haven't needed a Doc in quite a while and my Doc is maybe 35 and a fairly cool guy. We don't always agree on things but if I disagree we discuss it rationally. He is very good about explaining things I may not totally understand and he understands my reluctance to take any medications if my body still has the chance to work it's own magic. He's funny when I come into the exam room, he knows I carry and will point to the side of the counter and say, "park it" and I put my gun over there and then we begin.... Did I say he's pretty cool??
I think it's a damned shame that all doctors aren't like him.....
 
Worked at a hospital for 23 years. Most of the nurses I knew/know would have put him on his ass and warned him not to get up.......................
 
On one hand, I feel sorry for most hospital docs. They are expected to know everything about everything, which just isn't possible.
A good doctor realizes this and isn't afraid to ask for options and advice.

On the other, 75% of them are egotistical pieces of crap who would rather kill a patient than admit they are wrong or don't know something.

A lot of times, it's your nurse and the other disciplines you deal with keeping you safe from bumbling doctors, so if you find yourself in the hospital, treat them right.

REELDOC said:
Worked at a hospital for 23 years. Most of the nurses I knew/know would have put him on his ass and warned him not to get up.......................
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What surprises me most about this article is that the nurse wasn't the one doing the choking.
 
Chuckman said:
I wish I could say this is an isolated event; unfortunately physicians assaulting staff is neither new nor rare. I will say if it happened to me, the physician would not last long enough to get to a lawsuit or to be arrested and charged.

https://kdvr.com/2018/11/13/doctor-...he-throat-and-squeezing-faces-assault-charge/
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He is lucky. 1) that he is only getting charged with second degree assault and NOT felony assault on a healthcare worker as he should be. 2) that he is not injured himself. My wife is a nurse and IF a Dr ever treated her like this well, yeah it wouldn’t be pretty....and that’s before I hear about it..
 
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Cpippen said:
He is lucky. 1) that he is only getting charged with second degree assault and NOT felony assault on a healthcare worker as he should be. 2) that he is not injured himself. My wife is a nurse and IF a Dr ever treated her like this well, yeah it wouldn’t be pretty....and that’s before I hear about it..
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You wouldn't know it from talking to healthcare workers but that charges requires serious injury.
 
During the investigation, Ryan told police, "I just didn't mean to hurt her."

Well then..if you put it that way...’Saul Good, man! No serious harm, no real foul.
 
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