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Discussion in 'Employment Opportunities - Help Wanted - Skills' started by rdinatal, Nov 9, 2019.

  1. rdinatal

    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Need some help to determine if I have a main line leak. Must be able to work in MeckCo.

    I removed tree and stump by hand as I know the water line is close. The hole has a bit more water in it then expected. The meter only moves .1 over 30min. (Don't know if ice maker cycled)

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    Jeppo Very LARGE Member Supporting Member

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    If you’ve got a valve between the meter and the house, try closing it and check the meter again.
     
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    Jeppo Very LARGE Member Supporting Member

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    Or, if you’ve got a valve under the sink, in the line to the ice maker, close that one and check again.
     
  4. rdinatal

    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Ah, good, didn't think about those. The main house and sprinkler backflow valves. Will recheck in an hour or so...
     
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    Jeppo Very LARGE Member Supporting Member

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    You probably wanna close the sprinkler valve and drain the lines anyway. ;)
     
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    What Jeppo said.
    and

    That will be $38.50 please.
     
  7. rdinatal

    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Self draining once the valves close. I usually wait till after Thanksgiving to blow out the backflow valve but that might happen now.

    Still testing...
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    The stump is out. Very wet and I can't tell where the water is coming from. :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

    I can see the low flow 'star' moving, very slowly. This is the meter after an hour with all valves shut.

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    Jeppo Very LARGE Member Supporting Member

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    How far from the meter to the stump?
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    About 6ft.
     
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    Jeppo Very LARGE Member Supporting Member

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    I’ll tell you what I’d do...

    Given that the leak is very tiny (at least so far :rolleyes:), I’d do nothing until next weekend. That, in hopes that enough water would leak out to let me find a soft spot. Then, that’s where I’d start digging.
     
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  12. rdinatal

    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    The stump hole is the soft spot. I hate to start digging more, hit the line and it really leaks. Then it's an emergency call out, etc.
     
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    The alternative might be to wait until first thing on what's predicted to be a warm(er) day. In the meantime, arm yourself with pipe, couplings, glue, primer, etc.. Then, turn off the water at the valve and go to town with the shovel.
     
  14. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Nuts Over Lil D. Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    Use a piece or wire to witch it. Yes it works. Should be able to find the ditch line this way. Really shouldn’t be hard to find. We used to listen to water line breaks under ground with a stethoscope and a piece of lead on the end. Probably 3/4” line. Cut a piece out and clamp it in, or it’s it’s copper you can shark bite a new piece in place and fix it pretty quick.
     
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    Grits I'm a Dirt Bag. Charter Life Member

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    Check toilet flapper in tanks. Might be slow leak you're looking for.

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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    From what I see the main valve is for 8-10 houses along my street. I think I'll let someone who does this for a living take the chances.
     
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    There’s gotta be a valve on the outlet side of your meter.
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Not that I noticed but I'll look again. It will need to be after I get back from Raleigh just found out my daughter is being induced and should be delivering sometime tonight.
     
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    Congrats grandpa!
     
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    I haven’t looked in decades...now that I think of it, maybe it’s before the meter.
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    You're the one who asked!?! You don't know???
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Thanks, grand kid #4. The first girl.
     
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    Nope...I try not to dig around my water line. :D
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Which is why I don't want to...
     
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    ronn47 Where's the Scotch? Charter Member Benefactor Life Member

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    You're done for now.
    I've got 2 G-sons and 2 G-daughters, they have me around their little finger and know it.
     
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    The valve is before the meter, so it can be replaced or repaired.
    You'll have a valve there some where.
     
  27. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Nuts Over Lil D. Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    There is a “curb stop” as they call it on the city side of the meter setter. That’s how they turn ya off and lock it ifn ya don’t pay up
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Update:

    I hired a plumber to fix it since any more damage would require tools I don't have. When there's a fountain in the front yard that's not the time to say "I need to go to Lowes". He found a nick in the line under the stump, looks like a shovel started it and the roots pulled and opened it up.

    No more in-ground pool. :(
    No more abnormally high water bills! :D
     
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    FWIW, YOU SHOULD PUT A BALL VALVE OR GATE VALVE AFTER THE METER AND BEFORE YOUR HOUSE. Make it easily accessible. If the main line runs under a closet or under a cabinet, put the holes there, cut the water off at the meter, sweat the lines (or put them in with pex or pvc, whatever you have) and put a main valve that you can hand close before the water gets into the house. Even under the house will work, but my experience is that it is better when you or the wife can access it without any hassle.

    I promise this will save you heartache and trouble. I had an engineer buddy who punched a hole in his upper bathroom feed with a nail gun. He called me panicking and I ran up the street to help him. We had to excavate the meter box in the dark and get to the valve and cut off the water to the house. THE NEXT DAY he called in to work and we put in a gate valve in his closet. Ruined a big spot of sheetrock and had to remove quite a bit of sopping insulation (that stuff gets sour and stinks if it is wet).

    If you had a shutoff to your house past the meter, the process of finding this would have been easier, as several guys upstream hinted.

    Anyway, glad you found the problem.
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Yup, have that. A main shut-off in the hall closet.
     
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    I suspect either slow leak in toilet fill valve, slow leak in an irrigation system or a small leak between meter and house.

    I had one develop a leak due to an old tree between house and meter. I rented the ditching machine, removed the pipe myself, put new line in the hole and brought the entire thing up to current code from 1950 code. No issues 4yr later. And yes, I added extra cutoff valves to make it easy to fix if it ever needs it again.
     
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    Ball valves preferred over gate valves. :)
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    June approves of this repair!

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