PMR 30

I have 3 of them if that gives you any vote of confidence. Whatcha wanna know?

Wife carries one, has one on her nightstand and I carry one around the farm.
 
Last edited:
amnesia said:
I have 3 of them if that gives you any vote of confidence. Whatcha wanna know?

Wife carries one, has one on her nightstand and I carry one around the farm.
Click to expand...

Well that is a question, how’s the wife handling it? It will be for HD and SD, and I need stuff my wife can handle.
 
amnesia said:
I have 3 of them if that gives you any vote of confidence. Whatcha wanna know?

Wife carries one, has one on her nightstand and I carry one around the farm.
Click to expand...

What ammo have you found to be reliable?




Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
 
As to HD/SD 30 rounds on .22mag would be pretty damn scary. Hornady now offers a jacketed FTX 45gr Critical Defense round in .22mag. My one reservation of a rimfire cartridge is reliability of ignition and failure to fire. That Hornady ammo I would assume to be more reliable but still rimfire priming and ignition would make me practice “tap-rack-bang” but again that PMR holding 30 rounds of 45gr FTX’s would sure be a nasty thing to be on the receiving end of. I will also say the .22mag PMR while not bad on recoil is nasty when it comes to muzzle flash and report ... nothing the shooter can’t get use to real quick just a slight factor.
 
CDR_Glock said:
What ammo have you found to be reliable?




Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Click to expand...
As mentioned above Hornady critical defense. Also, cci maxi mags 40 grain cycle without any problems. I tend to have the heavier grain bullets in the pmr. Hornady varmint red tip has issues but runs great in my Savage bolt action.
 
Last edited:
Forgot to mention I have a tlr-1 on all three with a ranting redneck own holster on hers.
 
Early gen models did have an issue with the front sight...cement would loosen due to heat from barrel. They sent me another...I need to sight it and locktite it down.

Loading the mags is the tricky part..you can crimp some rounds loading which can cause the casing to not clear and get hung up.

After that you can expect to get burnt at least once as you roll thru 30 rounds and if flings the cases everywhere.

I really want a cmr 30 for the misses at home it's such fun.

As far as anyone copying it...gonna be a while due to the mags..they are the key. No one seems to have figured out the double stack for rimfire.
 
Last edited:
molonlabe said:
Early gen models did have an issue with the front sight...cement would loosen due to heat from barrel. They sent me another...I need to sight it and locktite it down.

Loading the mags is the tricky part..you can crimp some rounds loading which can cause the casing to not clear and get hung up.

After that you can expect to get burnt at least once as you roll thru 30 rounds and if flings the cases everywhere.

I really want a cmr 30 for the misses at home it's such fun.

As far as anyone copying it...gonna be a while due to the mags..they are the key. No one seems to have figured out the double stack for rimfire.
Click to expand...


As far as anyone copying it...gonna be a while due to the mags..they are the key. No one seems to have figured out the double stack for rimfire.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but Keltec isn’t the first to do it. The PMR30 is just a copy of the Grendel P30.
 
The other complaint people have is ammo price. However, I'm finding CCI ammo for the cost of good brass 9 mm. It's about 20 to 22 cents a round .
 
Derek8404 said:
As far as anyone copying it...gonna be a while due to the mags..they are the key. No one seems to have figured out the double stack for rimfire.
Click to expand...

Maybe, but Keltec isn’t the first to do it. The PMR30 is just a copy of the Grendel P30.[/QUOTE]
Which was also made by kel tec or at least the head guy at kel tec so the grendel pistols are essentially gen 1 kel tecs.
 
I’ve got both the PMR and the CMR and no problem with either! Love them both.
 
I got a PMR-30 and a FN FiveSeven last year within a week from each other. I really like the PMR-30, the FN was meh to me and I traded it for a milled Arsenal with stupid hydrodip recently.
Pic for interest:
E6gz4XMl.jpg
 
Have had a couple and they didn't fit my tiny hand. Could on occasion be ammo picky. I now have a RIA 1911 15 shot .22 mag. Fits me better. Love .22 mags.
 
Just got one for Christmas, not shot yet though
 
The Grendel guns were designed by George Kelgren who was the founder of Kel-Tec and a designer of a number of the Kel-Tec models. I think he's still head designer and CEO of the firm, but others were involved in the design of the PMR-30. The PMR-30 has a different type of action than the earlier .22 MAG Kelgren p-3o design from which the magazine was lifted.

From Wikipedia:

George Kellgren (born May 23, 1943) is a Swedish-born firearms designer, inventor and founder of the gun manufacturer Kel-Tec. His designs include the Intratec Tec-9, Kel-Tec P-11 and Grendel .380 ACP pocket pistol.

Kellgren is the owner and Chief Engineer of Kel-Tec CNC. He designed many firearms earlier for Husqvarna and Swedish Interdynamics AB in Sweden. He moved to the US in 1979 and his original US designs were for Intratec and Grendel brand firearms. He founded Kel-Tec in 1991.
​
If you don't know much about the PMR-30 design, the following link is very interesting, and includes a transcript of a discusion withTobias Obermeit, the Chief Design Engineer on the PMR-30 pistol at Kel-tec:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/10/12/gun-design-engineer-answers-your-questions/
 
Last edited:
Walt Sherrill said:
The Grendel guns were designed by George Kelgren who was the founder of Kel-Tec and a designer of a number of the Kel-Tec models. I think he's still head designer and CEO of the firm, but others were involved in the design of the PMR-30. The PMR-30 has a different type of action than the earlier .22 MAG Kelgren p-3o design from which the magazine was lifted.

From Wikipedia:

George Kellgren (born May 23, 1943) is a Swedish-born firearms designer, inventor and founder of the gun manufacturer Kel-Tec. His designs include the Intratec Tec-9, Kel-Tec P-11 and Grendel .380 ACP pocket pistol.

Kellgren is the owner and Chief Engineer of Kel-Tec CNC. He designed many firearms earlier for Husqvarna and Swedish Interdynamics AB in Sweden. He moved to the US in 1979 and his original US designs were for Intratec and Grendel brand firearms. He founded Kel-Tec in 1991.
​
If you don't know much about the PMR-30 design, the following link is very interesting, and includes a transcript of a discusion withTobias Obermeit, the Chief Design Engineer on the PMR-30 pistol at Kel-tec:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/10/12/gun-design-engineer-answers-your-questions/
Click to expand...
The hybrid action is the reason you shouldn't suppress it...I'm not sure if it would damage the action or just not function.
 
molonlabe said:
The hybrid action is the reason you shouldn't suppress it...I'm not sure if it would damage the action or just not function.
Click to expand...

Tobias Obermeit, the PMR-30's Chief Design Engineer said the following. (The underlining is mine.)
There are plans for a 5 inch threaded barrel for use with a flash suppressor, or even perhaps silencers. But this will not be released until we know that the extra weight of a silencer attached to the barrel will not adversely affect the hybrid locked breech system.
Click to expand...

Have you heard that silencer weight WAS a problem? The fact that they later introduced a carbine version of the same gun -- the CMR-30 -- which has a much longer (and heavier) barrel might suggest that the extra weight may NOT be a problem or, if it is, that there might be a work-around (such as a different grip or frame design)
 
MadMardigan said:
I’m in the market for another handgun, I’ve been looking at this or a G19x
Click to expand...

That's like saying you need another car, but can't decide whether it's going to be a Corvette or a Toyota Land Cruiser. It would be hard to pick two more different semi-autos.

The PMR-30 is a fun gun, but unless you have varmints or are willing to spend a lot of time at the range, you won't get many opportunities to use it. The Glock 19x might be good carry weapon.

Believe it or not, the PMR-30 has carry potential, but it wouldn't be my first choice. It's a lot lighter than than the Glock 19x, and the fireball could scare away a bad guy giving you 29 more chances to take him out as he runs to cover! And surprisingly, my PMR-30 is remarkably accurate and easy to shoot well. And performance tests (ballistic gel) show that with the right ammo (like Hornady Critical Defense) the PMR-30 performs a lot like a good .380 with comparable ammo.

(My wife wanted a gun she could use for self- or home-defense if I wasn't home, and most of my other guns were a problem for her. Once she learned to rack the slide on the PMR-30, she likes it a lot, but she still needs to become proficient with it.)
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom