Question, Best Suppressor for an AR?

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Ladies and Gentlemen and I use that term loosely for you Gents, :)

I am thinking about adding a can to my AR collection, what do you consider the best one and why?

I value all of your input and am thanking you ahead of time .
 
What are your expectations? ARs are still loud suppressed. Unless you go 300blk.

Do you have a suppressor already? Have other guns you would like to put it on?
 
I own the Omega by Silencerco. Good for .308.
 
Have you shot an AR suppressed? If not, you may want to get up with someone to test one out. It's not as quiet as most people expect.

If you have - then you need to figure out if you want the quietest can or a light/short can. Those are two different things.
 
I am currently waiting for the ATF to approve my application for the suppressor for my 1911's. I am aware that the AR will still be loud, I have not misconceptions that it will sound like the suppressors in the movies. More than likely it will be attached to one AR even though I would like the option of moving it from one platform to the other but I think it will find a home on one gun and stay there.
 
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FWIW, I have a Optimus out of jail, and a Oculus in jail.

300blk is fun out of my 300blk, but I can use it on 223 and up.
 
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If it's your first rifle can, I'd definitely lean towards a .30 can. That way you're not limited down the road if you never buy another one.

You need to decide direct thread or QD. I like QD for rifle.

The SilencerCo Omega listed earlier in this thread is still (to me) one of the best options on the market. It includes both DT and QD mounts.

I'd also look at the offerings from Rugged and Dead Air.

Personally, if I was going to buy one today, it would be a YHM Nitro. I believe their mounting system is the most idiot-proof on the market. The Nitro comes with both a QD setup and a direct thread...just like the Omega.

ETA: I'd also highly recommend shooting a suppressed 5.56 AR before spending a nickel. The good thing about shooting supersonic ammo through a can is you can focus on length, weight, attachment method, etc...instead of suppression level.
 
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There are several suitable choices. I went with the Rugged Surge 762 for versatility. In short configuration on a .300 Blackout SBR upper with subsonic ammo. Slap on the Adapt Module for better suppression on .223 upper or on a .308 bolt action rifle. It does not have a direct thread mount so a proprietary muzzle device is required for each "host".
 
AR's are pretty damn loud so you can only do but so much to suppress them. That said, the handful I've heard/shot are impressive, as in "I can stand to be nearby with no ear pro" vs "holy crap, my ears are still ringing 2hr later" unsuppressed.

I'd definitely go with a 30cal can since there's minimal difference in sound levels plus some allow for .223 end caps.

A friend has the Omega and it's awesome. The modularity is pretty sweet plus it's pretty light & compact. I like what I've seen from Griffin and read multiple places that the Recce 7 has a deeper tone, making it seem a little quieter than the Omega, so I was set on that. However, I just bought Griffin's new Alpha/Paladin since it uses the same baffle stack as the Recce 7, but is 3oz lighter and is user serviceable so you can shoot dirty .22 if you really want to.

You also have the multi-cal rifle/pistol cans like the Griffin Optimus & SiCo Hybrid... tons of options out there, just depends what you really want.
 
...and to be clear, there's definitely no "best" suppressor for an AR. You need to figure out what your list of priorities are in a can, and shop that way.
 
I'd go caliber specific unless you really have larger caliber rifles to suppress.

5.56: Griffin Armament Recce 5

7.62: Recce 7

They're great cans, extremely quiet, great CS, durability for the size and weight is excellent.

I've been very impressed with mine. It's not a direct thread but it's not a QD either. Taper mounts lock up tight, never had mine let go during rapid fire. Repeatable POI/POA.


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To use the Omega on my M&P 15X, I added their ASR flash hider with quick connect and
an end cap in 1/2" x 28 for both. Omega ships with these parts for 5/8" x 24.
I can use it on three different rifles and one AR pistol.

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I second the Recce 7. Super simple mounting, nothing to break. Will do anything from 5.56 to 300 mag. The only downfall is the taper mounts look a little goofy without the suppressor attached. However, this is a result of the taper style mounting, which is rock solid. Doesn't come loose during firing but wont seize on the gun either.
 
Sometimes there is a non-technical reason I wouldn't buy a particular brand/model of a suppressor. Unfortunately, that's the case with anything Griffin sells. Those boys have shown their backside just a few too many times for me to ever give them a dollar. More than could be excused as having a bad day.

That being said, most everybody I know that has one of their cans is pleased with its performance.
 
I also am looking for one. Maybe I can piggy back on yer thread Blackdog?

I am looking for a thread-on can that is super durable, not fancy, and can handle a 7.5" barrel. It is intended to be permanently mounted to an upper.

Looked at the Spartan 3 and the Trek.
 
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I am looking for a thread-on can that is super durable, not fancy, and can handle a 7.5" barrel. It is intended to be permanently mounted to an upper.

Looked at the Spartan 3 and the Trek.
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Are really meaning you're going to perm attach it (probably to avoid SBR stamp)? Or just saying you're going to dedicate it to that upper?
 
BigWaylon said:
Are really meaning you're going to perm attach it (probably to avoid SBR stamp)? Or just saying you're going to dedicate it to that upper?
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The latter. I don't plan on moving it at all. It's only purpose is to be readily available and not blow my ear drums out if I shoot it indoors without ear pro, God forbid.
 
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The latter. I don't plan on moving it at all. It's only purpose is to be readily available and not blow my ear drums out if I shoot it indoors without ear pro, God forbid.
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Ok, for that's the case I wouldn't limit myself to direct thread. Simply for the reason if you're grabbing it with an immediate need to use it, you won't have to worry if it's slightly loose. Most QD style setups will keep the can tight...and provide you a FH or MB if you want to shoot outside without the can.
 
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Ok, for that's the case I wouldn't limit myself to direct thread. Simply for the reason if you're grabbing it with an immediate need to use it, you won't have to worry if it's slightly loose. Most QD style setups will keep the can tight...and provide you a FH or MB if you want to shoot outside without the can.
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I am not going to shoot without a can. I have several other uppers for that. I would use thread tape or rockset or something of the like to reduce possibility of unscrewing.
It is a 7.5" barrel in a 9" handguard, so if the can is off I have a flash can that sits there, and it is direct thread. So any kind of QD brake/flash hider is pointless as it would be under handguard.

All that said, my ears are open! I am ignorant of the possibilities. But really hoping to get this done for well under 500$ if possible. If money were no object I would already have ordered a thunderbeast or surefire or something.
 
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All that said, my ears are open! I am ignorant of the possibilities. But really hoping to get this done for well under 500$ if possible. If money were no object I would already have ordered a thunderbeast or surefire or something.
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Sounds like one of the $295 Treks that were available in the last year would've been perfect.

I'd still think about QD, even if you never took it off. The YHM Turbo is in the $400-$425 range. But, most of their stuff is warrantied down to 10.5" for 5.56.

The minimum barrel length is going to be an issue for most suppressors...unless you're not going to worry about it. Spartan 3 is limited to 10.5", and the Trek is 10.3".


I know the Sakers were rated down to 7", and you could go direct thread. The Dead Air cans (which are .30 cal) have no restrictions, but I don't believe you can go direct thread.
 
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BigWaylon said:
Sounds like one of the $295 Treks that were available in the last year would've been perfect.

I'd still think about QD, even if you never took it off. The YHM Turbo is in the $400-$425 range. But, most of their stuff is warrantied down to 10.5" for 5.56.

The minimum barrel length is going to be an issue for most suppressors...unless you're not going to worry about it. Spartan 3 is limited to 10.5", and the Trek is 10.3".


I know the Sakers were rated down to 7", and you could go direct thread. The Dead Air cans (which are .30 cal) have no restrictions, but I don't believe you can go direct thread.
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Thanks man. Yeah I would jump all over a trek for 295!!
I'll take a look at the YHM.
I've seen and know people with them on their 7.5" and I would think somebody could make one that could take it, but it is indeed not easy to find. Reading around I've read some opinions that if you use a can with the brake attachment, that the brake takes a lot of the blast off the first baffles and could be critical for can well being in the shorter barrels.
What are your thoughts on that?
 
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Reading around I've read some opinions that if you use a can with the brake attachment, that the brake takes a lot of the blast off the first baffles and could be critical for can well being in the shorter barrels.
What are your thoughts on that?
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That's definitely a common opinion/discussion. I have to assume there's some truth to it. I opted for FH muzzle devices on all my builds, mainly for the times I may shoot without a can (as rare as that is).

You can definitely find pics of brakes that show a good bit of erosion.
 
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I feel like I saw surefire police trade ins not too long ago. My searching isn't coming up with anything though.

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jkupp2000 said:
Griffin Armament SD line up would be great for moving through AR rifles. It uses a Standard A2 flash hider as the mount.
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That would work for @Blackdog but not @NKD, right? If he has the end of his can tucked inside the handguard, he wouldn't be able to easily manipulate the latch?
 
I have the Surefire SOCOM cans Two rated for for .308 and two rated for 300WM. The dealer told me they did not recommend using the .30 cal cans on my 5,56 AR. Anyone know why that would be an issue for a hard use can? As to the original post, there are many good options out there and I would bet @jkupp2000 , would be a great resource as well as Carolina Smoke and Guns.
 
Was that dealer trying to sell you a 5.56 can?

I don't know if any .30 can that wouldn't work on a 5.56 host.
 
Maybe due to the weight difference of a 30 vs 556 can is what they meant. But I wasn't there nor do I know who he's talking about.
 
BigWaylon said:
Was that dealer trying to sell you a 5.56 can?

I don't know if any .30 can that wouldn't work on a 5.56 host.
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I have often pondered this. I seem to remember them saying something about how dirty the 5.56 powder runs and it would do naughty things inside a can that was never meant to be torn down for cleaning.
 
Dave, if you can accept that you will eventually start to see some erosion from a 7.5" barrel I would go with a spartan 3 or grunt/mini-grunt for direct thread and decent price point. You will get full size suppression with the spartan 3 at roughly the same weight as the mini grunt with an exo.
 
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Dave, if you can accept that you will eventually start to see some erosion from a 7.5" barrel I would go with a spartan 3 or grunt/mini-grunt for direct thread and decent price point. You will get full size suppression with the spartan 3 at roughly the same weight as the mini grunt with an exo.
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Thanks dude!
 
MadMardigan said:
Thinking more on this, would a integral upper work for you.
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I am in the shopping around mode for this, it won't be for quite awhile before I am actually in the position to purchase one. I just wanted to get ideas from others who have one.
 
Blackdog said:
I am in the shopping around mode for this, it won't be for quite awhile before I am actually in the position to purchase one. I just wanted to get ideas from others who have one.
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I've looked at them also, I like moving around hosts, but down the road after I have 3 or 4 cans, I could definitely see it, if not I'd do the Mist 22 take down.
 
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