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I'm thinking about building a private range on a cleared area surrounded by forest. In the picture, the red lines are the property lines. The yellow lines represent the distance to the property line, both are about 250 yards of forest. The cleared area will one day contain a garden but the edges will remain clear due to shade, and that where we'd put the shooting lane, either on the north or south edges facing East (90 yards), or on the NE corner and shooting South (70 yards). Berm would be at one of the stars. The topography there is generally level, with the highest point in the center of the cleared area. The county does not have any ordinances specific to recreational shooting.

What kind of berm would I need to make this safe? Does anyone have any document by NRA or other organization that would provide guidance on height, width, and composition?

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I see you’re listed as being in wake county. If the range to be is in wake, the commissioners forked us. Werner you shout needs to be 900’, yes that’s 300 yards from the nearest home or livestock.

 
I see you’re listed as being in wake county. If the range to be is in wake, the commissioners forked us. Werner you shout needs to be 900’, yes that’s 300 yards from the nearest home or livestock.

The land is in a nearby county that does not have those restrictions, thankfully.
 
What about shooting the other direction, or diagonally across the field. Just outside of your property, and downrange, I see a house and a road.
 
I would make sure that the impact berm is downhill from the garden site. Lead runoff in your food isn’t good.
 
Are you able to get heavy equipment back there? How about a dump truck? If so, you could excavate the garden area and use that dirt for the berm and then backfill the garden area with soil more suited for gardening.
 
Sometimes for some reason a bullet or three may go over a berm. I would not want a house or road only 300 yards behind the berm. The picture did not show what else is around the clearing.
 
NRA berms are a 1:1 ratio
The main impact berm is to be 20ft tall and the side berms 8ft tall.
This means the main berm is 40ft wide, 20 ft tall, side berm is 16ft wide, 8ft tall.

So if you want a 100-yard range, the leading edge of the berm should start at 102 yards from the firing line and slope upwards to 20ft tall, and back done again ending at 116 yards or so.
 
NRA berms are a 1:1 ratio
The main impact berm is to be 20ft tall and the side berms 8ft tall.
This means the main berm is 40ft wide, 20 ft tall, side berm is 16ft wide, 8ft tall.

So if you want a 100-yard range, the leading edge of the berm should start at 102 yards from the firing line and slope upwards to 20ft tall, and back done again ending at 116 yards or so.
^^^ This.

Re the big tires, yes they can be free. At one time McCarthy Tire in Garner told me that I could pick up all the heavy equipment tires that I wanted for free.

It’s usually a good idea to fill them with dirt; otherwise they can start to sag over time.
 
The tires here weigh 600 pounds and are stacked 4 and 5 high...the tire companies here will gleefully bring them to you....you had better stand by though, they will cover you UP with tires....They brought about 200 here...as an aside...NOTHING were have ever had here will go through one....Yes that includes 50 BMG....45s and 38s will bounce off of them occasionally. We have found No downside to using them for the last 10 years...None have had to be replaced...and while Car tires will compress over time these monsters are impervious to gravity.

My 450 lb loader tires have compressed over time. You probably have the big earth-mover tires with the ultra stiff sidewalls.
 
Lead question for a range. How long does it take for bullet splatter from targets to impact a branch's water quality?
 
Re:wood I’ve read of ricochet once there’s enough lead in the wood. I’m leaning towards dirt in front of old railroad ties myself.
 
Lead question for a range. How long does it take for bullet splatter from targets to impact a branch's water quality?
Its been my experience, that its not bullet fragments, the issue is the primer and powder residue run off. This area is the first 10 ft in front of the firing line. The residue is like dust and all the hard metals mixed in is what the concern is. Now, if you have grass, if you have open air, it takes a lot of shooting to cause an issue.
 
Sometimes for some reason a bullet or three may go over a berm. I would not want a house or road only 300 yards behind the berm. The picture did not show what else is around the clearing.

OP, Much great info for you this thread already so, I will just add; once you get your berm design nailed down, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO AVOID ANY HASSLES think about investing in a baffle system. Aka - “no blue sky.”

I have a friend who has quite a bit of acreage in Calvert County, MD - depending upon traffic, it is only an approx 45 mins drive up Rte 4 (Pennsylvania Ave) to the White House. Once a very rural (tobacco farm) county, his family shot on their private range for generations. Then, betwixt 2000 and 2010 the county transformed into a Wash., DC bedroom county with all the undeveloped land around their family acreage subdivided for Mcmansions. Despite my buddy’s family taking the high road (welcoming new neighbors, letting them know if they hear shooting it’s being done safely, invit8ng any who enjoyed shooting to possibly join them, etc., etc. Then, even agreeing to certain hours, etc,) some of the new neighbors organized into a “Moms Demand Action” gang and eventually began making life hell for his family.

Well within the distances from property / property line and roadways prescribed by state law and county ordinance, BOTH the Sheriff and any judges that got pulled into the growing mess were all on the family’s side. But, it was obvious the neighbors were going to outspend the family on lawyers, etc.

Once the neighbors‘ attorneys reported back to their clients the family were all well within any county noise ordnances (things got so protracted the court actually ordered the Sheriff to use special measuring eqpt to record decibel levels from all four sides of the family’s property lines while my buddy’s family allowed deputies to shoot handguns and ar’s on their family range!) well then, the neighbors started fabricating stories about rounds “zipping over our poor children’s heads while they play outside” and all manner of similar bull-hockey. THEN, they succeeded in getting the media (“if it bleeds it leads” mentality) involved!

My buddy quickly tallied up the cost of some concrete footers, some prsr trtd 6x6’s, 2x10’s, etc hardware and lumber were a fraction of what any more legal responses were going to cost his family (it was getting down to them having to start dipping into savings for their kids’ college educations to keep responding to filings by the neighbors’ attorneys!).

Once he had something very similar to the attached photo set up an unexpected consequence occurred. The first time the court saw photos of the baffles he’d put up that judge handed down a decision - in writing - opened the door for my buddy’s family to go after the neighbors in the future, for frivolous lawsuits!!!!!!

That shut-up the transplant neighbors toot quick! And apparently for good, too!

Best of success - I (I’m sure a lot of us) envy you!

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I wonder what’s going to happen at my house/range in the future. There are several newly built homes across the road from us. They are currently developing a 20 acre plot just down the road(1/4 mile or less) and building 20 houses on it. My deer stand was 30 yards from the clearing of that new development but have since moved it 😔.


My current range set up is on my pipeline. I shoot into a hill that is 20-30 ft tall and 50 yards wide. No houses behind it for about a mile.

But I am curious what kind of complaints we will have in the future. Hopefully none. Opening day of dove season is a month away and it will be the first time hunting over my pipeline/sunflowers. Wondering how the Californian neighbors that live across the road will take it? They seem nice and I have invited them to go shoot with me whenever they want to. Took the youth group shooting earlier this year and informed the neighbors that we would be shooting for several hours. They said “thanks for letting us know, we will give our dogs some hemp pills”. Huh??? 😆

Here’s a picture of my range. It’s not much but works. I can shoot up to 200 yards as the land allows. Anything over that I go to a private range up the road that I can use up to 1000+- yards

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OP, Much great info for you this thread already so, I will just add; once you get your berm design nailed down, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO AVOID ANY HASSLES think about investing in a baffle system. Aka - “no blue sky.”

I have a friend who has quite a bit of acreage in Calvert County, MD - depending upon traffic, it is only an approx 45 mins drive up Rte 4 (Pennsylvania Ave) to the White House. Once a very rural (tobacco farm) county, his family shot on their private range for generations. Then, betwixt 2000 and 2010 the county transformed into a Wash., DC bedroom county with all the undeveloped land around their family acreage subdivided for Mcmansions. Despite my buddy’s family taking the high road (welcoming new neighbors, letting them know if they hear shooting it’s being done safely, invit8ng any who enjoyed shooting to possibly join them, etc., etc. Then, even agreeing to certain hours, etc,) some of the new neighbors organized into a “Moms Demand Action” gang and eventually began making life hell for his family.

Well within the distances from property / property line and roadways prescribed by state law and county ordinance, BOTH the Sheriff and any judges that got pulled into the growing mess were all on the family’s side. But, it was obvious the neighbors were going to outspend the family on lawyers, etc.

Once the neighbors‘ attorneys reported back to their clients the family were all well within any county noise ordnances (things got so protracted the court actually ordered the Sheriff to use special measuring eqpt to record decibel levels from all four sides of the family’s property lines while my buddy’s family allowed deputies to shoot handguns and ar’s on their family range!) well then, the neighbors started fabricating stories about rounds “zipping over our poor children’s heads while they play outside” and all manner of similar bull-hockey. THEN, they succeeded in getting the media (“if it bleeds it leads” mentality) involved!

My buddy quickly tallied up the cost of some concrete footers, some prsr trtd 6x6’s, 2x10’s, etc hardware and lumber were a fraction of what any more legal responses were going to cost his family (it was getting down to them having to start dipping into savings for their kids’ college educations to keep responding to filings by the neighbors’ attorneys!).

Once he had something very similar to the attached photo set up an unexpected consequence occurred. The first time the court saw photos of the baffles he’d put up that judge handed down a decision - in writing - opened the door for my buddy’s family to go after the neighbors in the future, for frivolous lawsuits!!!!!!

That shut-up the transplant neighbors toot quick! And apparently for good, too!

Best of success - I (I’m sure a lot of us) envy you!

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I've shot on some ranges like this, and probably this is what any outdoor range with any habitation within falling bullet range will be required to install in the future.
 
If and when I can build my own range. It would be overkill to someone's standards. But that is because an ounce of prevention is worth a pound type thinking.

If you are overly concerned, build baffles. A larger than you think is needed backstop.

Plant vines on the baffles for added shade.

I respect the idea of "my property, law says I can" type rebuttals. But you are shooting and are responsible for anything you fire downrange. If you invite people to shoot, you are still responsible. So build it well, and think about what someone could do by mistake if it's their first time shooting.
 
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