Raleigh Road Rage

You know it! I'm fighting for the lesser class still living in 1987 and staying the right lane.

But that thought aside, your 18-20 mph still impedes the flow of traffic from a safety standpoint.

If that was so surely our leaders in State Government would change the laws. Right?
 
I work in Chapel Hill and fish the Jordan/Harris lake area. I see alot of bicycle idiocy. The 5+ wide refusal to move over on a curvy country road in my opinion is the worst/ most dangerous. Some guys obey the highway rules, and haul butt down the road but they are the minority.

Yep, I live right off 64 near Jordan Lake. I have ridden about every rode around here to Pittsboro and back. The large group rides are the biggest problem. Legally they are right, but they do not help their own cause. I always refused offers to join those rides. I used to go out solo early on the weekends or at lunch during the week if I could. Even then it got way too dangerous to ride.

Everybody on both sides are way too self centered to even think about the other guy. It's all about ME and getting to my thing on time is more important than whatever the other guy has going on. Selfish DB's on all sides.
 
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Everybody on both sides are way too self centered to even think about the other guy. It's all about ME and getting to my thing on time is more important than whatever the other guy has going on. Selfish DB's on all sides.

Quoted for the truth!!
 
The difference in tone between this thread and the one a few years ago from New York is a bit comical with the "never ok" vs the "the driver was morally obligated."
 
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Works every time.... One honk and then you meet BIG TEX.....
 
Bicycles aren't blocking traffic. They are traffic.

Some people are totally comfortable threatening my life all because my choice of leisure activity delays their drive for a few minutes.

And you don't know anything about how much I pay in taxes.
So what sort of liability insurance are you carrying ? Also how are you paying to use the roads like the other vehicles pay through the road tax ? I am sure you pay loads of taxes already much like the rest of us. But there is not currently a road use tax for bicycles that I am aware of.
 
Bicycles aren't blocking traffic. They are traffic.

Some people are totally comfortable threatening my life all because my choice of leisure activity delays their drive for a few minutes.
This is why bicycles should obey the traffic rules, which unfortunately many are loath to do, especially in certain municipalities. The rules, such as not running stop signs, staying off sidewalks, using hand signals to indicate turning, riding on the right side of the road as well as other common sense items like wearing visible clothing etc, are all designed to help keep the bicyclist safe.

Similarly, car drivers need to be cautious for watching out for non vehicle traffic, which may not be as visible and realize that a bicyclist may see road hazards, especially on the edge that the car driver can't. Consequently, they need to take care in passing.

The road is big enough for both, but when either party starts acting like a douche nozzle it causes trouble; and both parties are guilty.
 
I ride through stop signs and red lights all the time too. Least I did when I still rode.

Reduced speed and better visibility allow bicycles to better assess the conditions at intersections before they arrive there and need to come to a full stop. I can see whether or not I need to stop well before I really need to stop.

It's not like all cyclists are unified on this or on taking the lane either. There is plenty of debate about both among bikers.

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I ride through stop signs and red lights all the time too. Least I did when I still rode.

Reduced speed and better visibility allow bicycles to better assess the conditions at intersections before they arrive there and need to come to a full stop. I can see whether or not I need to stop well before I really need to stop.

It's not like all cyclists are unified on this or on taking the lane either. There is plenty of debate about both among bikers.

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Sometimes you have to take a lane to prevent cars from trying to "squeeze" through when there's not enough room.
 
Had five young guys on crotch rockets come up fast as we were 75mph on I-540 eb in Raleigh last year, riding between lanes,
radio off, could not hear them until they were between me and a F-250 with a trailer in tow.
Truck moved deliberately to the right, I managed to move to shoulder otherwise all five of them would be road kill.
I called it into HP, can't miss the big guy 300lb on that rocket.

One other time a pack were ready to leave the BP, I let one out, BIG MISTAKE,
he and his buddy blocked the right lane I was in so all his buddies could leave BP,
people were not happy, too bad for both of them Raleigh PD watched them doing this.
Like the Muzzer posted , be patient.

To be clear, just a few idiots ruin it for everyone else, two or four wheels.
 
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You lost credibilty right at the beginning with your 6-12 mph numbers. With my Titanium bike (old) and 40 something year old body I was averaging about 17mph when I was riding. Younger, fitter and more technologically advanced riders move a lot faster than I did. My 11 year old can do better than 6-12 mph!

where I grew up we had a kid that was getting pulled over on his bike for doing 65mph in 30mph zones. it was quite the deal in our small town. This was in the 80s before there was fancy carbon fiber. I think aluminum was considered 'light' back then.
 
They are traffic nuisances. They create backups on already dangerous country roads that for the most part, consist of narrower than current code lane widths. Pedal bikes average a speed of 6-12 mph......Let that sink in.

Except for certain roads inside village or town limits, the minimum speed for motor vehicles is 35 mph; country roads are predominately 45-55 mph. Throw is a curve where the safe speed is 35 mph, then place a cyclist at the middle of that curve and a F250 coming up behind the cyclist. Make the time of day noon in the summer and with full vegetation, the truck driver will most likely NOT see the cyclist until they are both exiting the curve. Consider what happens next....on your hospital bed.

It's quite inconsiderate the expect a motor vehicle to A)see you at all times, B)sit behind you at the average 6-12 mph or C)not attempt to pass you at the soonest possible time.

Also, why do you think fast food places explicitly prohibit serving patrons on foot or a bike at the drive thru window?

I have never had a issue going through a drive through while riding. Back when I actually had to get up for work, I would grab breakfast before going in.

The girl in the drive through always hit on me and always asked when I was going to take her for a ride.

Fun time
 
where I grew up we had a kid that was getting pulled over on his bike for doing 65mph in 30mph zones. it was quite the deal in our small town. This was in the 80s before there was fancy carbon fiber. I think aluminum was considered 'light' back then.

Must have been one hell of a hill?
 
Have they changed the law in NC regarding MC splitting lanes? In the past month I've had guys splitting lanes 3 different times. Once was a group of younger guys on sport bikes in moving traffic.
As a MC rider I understand it can at times be beneficial but also know how it can be dangerous especially if other motorists aren't aware of the law and get pissed. Seems like cruisin' for a bruisin' to me...
 
Have they changed the law in NC regarding MC splitting lanes? In the past month I've had guys splitting lanes 3 different times. Once was a group of younger guys on sport bikes in moving traffic.
As a MC rider I understand it can at times be beneficial but also know how it can be dangerous especially if other motorists aren't aware of the law and get pissed. Seems like cruisin' for a bruisin' to me...

Nothing has changed regarding lane splitting in NC, but it should.
 
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where I grew up we had a kid that was getting pulled over on his bike for doing 65mph in 30mph zones. it was quite the deal in our small town. This was in the 80s before there was fancy carbon fiber. I think aluminum was considered 'light' back then.

I have passed cars going down some descents, and it is not for the faint of heart. It's rush, but I'm a little older and more cautious now.
 
Figured this would be an applicable story:

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/bi...-several-vehicles-in-kings-mountain/718130934

So to conclude: Don't ride your bike a night on a main road. I really don't have sympathy for the bicyclist.....

Yea that story lacks so much details.

I’ll reserve judgement till more info comes out.

If the cyclist wasn’t wearing reflective gear or gear that didn’t help them stand out then yea not much to have sympanthy about.

If they were wearing reflective gear then someone is a dumbass and wasn’t paying attention and this shouldn’t have happened.
 
Full Disclosure: I didn't watch the video. But I'm pretty sure I've heard this story before.

What's missing from our roadways is called "courteous driving." It is likely compounded by ignorance and/or disregard for traffic laws.

Does the bike have as much right to use a public road as a car or semi? Yep.
Regardless of your type of vehicle, is it courteous to ignore every opportuniy to move aside and let others pass when you are incapable/too scared to go the speed limit or prevailing traffic speed? Nope.
Is it legal or courteous to tailgait, honk, pass unsafely, intimidate, or send obscene gestures to others on the road just because you're impatient? Is it anyone else's fault YOU are late for YOUR appointments? Nope.
If someone engages in rude/unsafe behavior around you but doesn't cause any physical damage to you or your vehicle, is it justifiable to "go after them" for revenge? Nope.
Are you the center of the universe when you're in front of other vehicles? Nope.
Are you the center of the universe when you are behind other vehicles? Nope.

Knowing/obeying traffic laws and courteous driving are key factors in road safety.

Yep, I've said this several times. Common Courtesy would solve a lot of this and it plays both ways. From the "I'm in to much of a hurry to wait a minute behind a slower car, truck or bike" to the "Screw them I'm legally allowed to be on this bike travelling 30 miles below the speed limit".

It's the same mentality that causes people to block an entire aisle at the grocery store with their cart sideways. No situation awareness and zero courtesy.
 
I saw a real winner on a bike the other day, riding into the oncoming traffic, as a pedestrian would, standing on the peddles and peddling as hard as he could while swinging from side to side. Idiot was a speed bump waiting to happen.
 
I saw a real winner on a bike the other day, riding into the oncoming traffic, as a pedestrian would, standing on the peddles and peddling as hard as he could while swinging from side to side. Idiot was a speed bump waiting to happen.

A lot of our visitors from South of the border seem to think that riding against traffic is how you are supposed to do it here.
 
I thought about starting a road rage thread for people to share their stories but this thread seems like a good enough place. Yesterday morning a guy rode my butt with his brights on. Today he was back again. I tried to be polite but that didn't work so to get down too it. I'd love to have ran you off the road. Burried the litteral hatchet and had a nice scalp for my lodge pole. Or followed you to your place of work and as you opened your door I would plow you into the side of it and paint it red. I'd strap you to the hood of my truck to let everyone know do not tread on me. Thank y'all this is so helpful.
 
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Hell, they don't have to have their brights on in those pretty mall crawlers all jacked up for paved city streets. Their low beams are so high off the ground they will blind you.
 
I do NOT get the "driving around, at all hours, with your brights on".

I flash mine and honk as we're passing but still....what kind of jerk does that?
I flashed mine at him on his failed attempt to pass. The cherry on top was when he gave me the finger as he took his exit.
 
Hell, they don't have to have their brights on in those pretty mall crawlers all jacked up for paved city streets. Their low beams are so high off the ground they will blind you.
My truck is just 89 F150 a regular cab long bed 2WD. It's beat up I just pulled the engine to up the ponies and I'm thinking of a M2 mod in the bed. Do they make a goose neck hitch mounting system?
 
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