Range report 7-6-19

Millie

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Just home from range day #2 with the newly repaired RIA 1911 in 9mm.

Today I gave it 150 rounds of Fiocchi 115 grain fmj ammo. I had even more failures to feed than I did yesterday: three today. I got phone pics, not sure why I bothered.

I also gave the Springfield 1911 .45 some rounds. I have now experienced a failure to fire! My first one. Oh, joy! Can you feel the sarcasm?? I had just let a young man shoot the .45 and he loved it, and I had talked the woman they were with into shooting it. She pulled the trigger and nothing happened, so I tried it, and nothing happened. I let the magazine out, racked the slide and a round fell out. Wow! It fired the next round just fine, but was too much for her to handle. I think she was a new shooter. Give her a few months and she'll be shooting a .45 just fine! LOL.

In the interests of thoroughness in our troubleshooting tomorrow, I bought two boxes of 9mm at the range, 124 grain in two different brands. I stopped by Defender Ammo and got a box of 147 grain new fmj. I also stopped by and saw Billy's old buddy Phil at Mid South, and got yet another brand of 147 grain ammo. This will bring the total brand count up to six, and the varying grains up to three different weights. Not sure what else to do.

We'll try different magazines tomorrow, and different shooters too, and BP will have the GoPro filming, so we can document any failures, and also to see if I'm forgetting how to shoot every now and then.

Phil says Billy will sort it out. I don't want the whole afternoon to be about me and my crazy gun, though, so I hope we can just get the testing done and get on with some fun. I've given Jenny at Armscor an emailed heads up about the problems. Told her not to send a shipping label till we do these two days of testing. I also asked her to tell me exactly what they did besides the extractor. We need info.

Any ideas will be appreciated, though I think we've covered everything....except recoil springs?
I'm pretty much over the 1911s, I have to say.....sad, isn't is? I was planning on using the 9mm in that match in Dunn on the 13th, give it a chance to redeem itself from the first match it did. HA!
Thanks for all your input over the months that this has dragged on.....lol.
 
Finicky guns aren't worth the time and $$$ you spend troubleshooting. Might be time to let it go and move on to something that works.
I'll be doing some final stuff tomorrow, and that'll probably be it for me. I'll see how RIA wants to handle things, and I'll move on. It will be going back to RIA unless a freakin' miracle happens at Battery Oaks. LOL. I got lots of ammo for it to try, we'll see.....it'll be my goodbye blast with this gun.
 
Just home from range day #2 with the newly repaired RIA 1911 in 9mm.

Today I gave it 150 rounds of Fiocchi 115 grain fmj ammo. I had even more failures to feed than I did yesterday: three today. I got phone pics, not sure why I bothered.

I also gave the Springfield 1911 .45 some rounds. I have now experienced a failure to fire! My first one. Oh, joy! Can you feel the sarcasm?? I had just let a young man shoot the .45 and he loved it, and I had talked the woman they were with into shooting it. She pulled the trigger and nothing happened, so I tried it, and nothing happened. I let the magazine out, racked the slide and a round fell out. Wow! It fired the next round just fine, but was too much for her to handle. I think she was a new shooter. Give her a few months and she'll be shooting a .45 just fine! LOL.

In the interests of thoroughness in our troubleshooting tomorrow, I bought two boxes of 9mm at the range, 124 grain in two different brands. I stopped by Defender Ammo and got a box of 147 grain new fmj. I also stopped by and saw Billy's old buddy Phil at Mid South, and got yet another brand of 147 grain ammo. This will bring the total brand count up to six, and the varying grains up to three different weights. Not sure what else to do.

We'll try different magazines tomorrow, and different shooters too, and BP will have the GoPro filming, so we can document any failures, and also to see if I'm forgetting how to shoot every now and then.

Phil says Billy will sort it out. I don't want the whole afternoon to be about me and my crazy gun, though, so I hope we can just get the testing done and get on with some fun. I've given Jenny at Armscor an emailed heads up about the problems. Told her not to send a shipping label till we do these two days of testing. I also asked her to tell me exactly what they did besides the extractor. We need info.

Any ideas will be appreciated, though I think we've covered everything....except recoil springs?
I'm pretty much over the 1911s, I have to say.....sad, isn't is? I was planning on using the 9mm in that match in Dunn on the 13th, give it a chance to redeem itself from the first match it did. HA!
Thanks for all your input over the months that this has dragged on.....lol.
I had a Kahr that I thought would run anything...
Until I tried to feed it some Fiocchi.
Gun wouldn’t run it at all.

It was a wee little Kahr, so this is apples and oranges, but I still wont buy Fiocchi
 
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I had a Kahr that I thought would run anything...
Until I tried to feed it some Fiocchi.
Gun wouldn’t run it at all.

It was a wee little Kahr, so this is apples and oranges, but I still wont buy Fiocchi
My various guns haven't had any issues with it at all....till now, and maybe it's not an ammo issue, but a gun issue! LOL.
 
I ran CCI Blazer Brass, Federal and some Freedom Munitions 115 rn in her pistol. No problems.
 
I have had problems with Fiocci Ammo even in a Glock 19. It also will not run in 380 in a Glock 42. Most everything else will run. I use Fiochi for Slap, Rack, Roll drills now. I hope you find this to be the case for you. Have a great range day tomorrow.
 
I have had problems with Fiocci Ammo even in a Glock 19. It also will not run in 380 in a Glock 42. Most everything else will run. I use Fiochi for Slap, Rack, Roll drills now. I hope you find this to be the case for you. Have a great range day tomorrow.
Their 380 indeed hates the little guns.
 
I have had problems with Fiocci Ammo even in a Glock 19. It also will not run in 380 in a Glock 42. Most everything else will run. I use Fiochi for Slap, Rack, Roll drills now. I hope you find this to be the case for you. Have a great range day tomorrow.

This is not good news. I guess I am going to bust open that new case of Fiocchi next to see if it works for me.
 
Millie,

Sounds like the .45 was a primer issue. If two strikes on the primer and no bang, then ammo. Now if there is no indentation on the primer then gun issue. Got a fake/Khyber pass Beretta copy that was being shot yesterday. Light strikes on primer but no bang. This time it is a gun issue. You would understand if you could inspect the oblong, off to side firing pin channel. Again this is not a genuine Beretta but a copy. Good in some areas but poor in others. Problems go away when I throw on an original M9 slide and barrel. Usually don't however cause of the fake slide, threaded barrel and suppressor go together.
https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.com/index.php?threads/khyber-pass-pakistani-handguns.41788/

CD
 
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Never heard of someone having so many issues with multiple guns constantly.
Like, have you had a gun that didnt have an issue yet?

Hopefully you get this sorted out at some point.
 
@Millie , while you're chasing a problem with this gun, stick with one manufacturer/brand and one bullet type/weight in the ammo you use. Switching different ammo brands and weights around just adds more variables into the mix.
 
I'm pretty much over the 1911s, I have to say.....sad, isn't is?
No, it's not sad. I have over a dozen and they are For The Range.
Finicky guns aren't worth the time and $$$ you spend troubleshooting. Might be time to let it go and move on to something that works.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I ran CCI Blazer Brass, Federal and some Freedom Munitions 115 rn in her pistol. No problems.
There may be a lesson here.
I have had problems with Fiocci Ammo even in a Glock 19. It also will not run in 380 in a Glock 42. Most everything else will run. I use Fiochi for Slap, Rack, Roll drills now. I hope you find this to be the case for you. Have a great range day tomorrow.
More evidence.
Sounds like the .45 was a primer issue.
Most common failure here in centerfire. I Expect All guns to function ALL. The one thing you have No control over is a bad round. This is where the DA Revolver shines. Along here is where somebody says "I've seen revolvers malfunction too". We ain't talkin bout Broke guns. We are talking about guns that work perfect Everytime, BUT the round no goes Bangy. Again, That is where DA revolvers Shine. Tap-Rack-Bang turns into squeeze Bang.
By end of day we Will know if it's a Gun, a Magazine, or an Ammo problem.
 
Never heard of someone having so many issues with multiple guns constantly.
Like, have you had a gun that didnt have an issue yet?

Hopefully you get this sorted out at some point.


I once had a guy tell me something. He said "you know who falls the most water skiing? The best water skiers."
Reason being they ski the most.

Shoot the most and you will experience the most problems.
 
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The skier is falling because of mistakes they are making, not mistakes with their equipment as we're seeing here.

Again, Ive never heard of someone having so many issues with almost ALL of their guns.
And while I dont shoot a ton, I know some that shoot almost daily and I never hear this sort of talk.
 
The skier is falling because of mistakes they are making, not mistakes with their equipment as we're seeing here.

Again, Ive never heard of someone having so many issues with almost ALL of their guns.
And while I dont shoot a ton, I know some that shoot almost daily and I never hear this sort of talk.


You are looking at the trees and not seeing the forest. The point is the more one shoots the more chance they have of a failure be it gun, magazine, ammo or shooter.
 
The skier is falling because of mistakes they are making, not mistakes with their equipment as we're seeing here.

Again, Ive never heard of someone having so many issues with almost ALL of their guns.
And while I dont shoot a ton, I know some that shoot almost daily and I never hear this sort of talk.
Outside of PSA products I shot over 6000 rounds in 14 months with only a couple, like two occurrences. And that was a bunch of different guns.

My new philosophy is:

Don’t buy RIA
Don’t buy Hi Points
Don’t buy Kimber
Don’t buy Remington
Don’t buy Mossberg
And never, ever buy damn ammo made by an American company made here or not.

I know, I know. Your ammo and guns listed above have been flawless.
 
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@Millie's gun ran 400+ rounds today with 6 different people shooting it, 5 different magazines, at least 5 different weights/manufacturer/bullet shape ammo, and it never missed a beat, ZERO problems. I even loaded some magazines with mixtures of all 5 of the ammo. Billy shot the gun with only his finger and thumb holding it and he was shooting it upside down. We could not get it to malfunction.
 
Was she one of the 6?
@Millie's gun ran 400+ rounds today with 6 different people shooting it, 5 different magazines, at least 5 different weights/manufacturer/bullet shape ammo, and it never missed a beat, ZERO problems. I even loaded some magazines with mixtures of all 5 of the ammo. Billy shot the gun with only his finger and thumb holding it and he was shooting it upside down. We could not get it to malfunction.
 
@Millie's gun ran 400+ rounds today with 6 different people shooting it, 5 different magazines, at least 5 different weights/manufacturer/bullet shape ammo, and it never missed a beat, ZERO problems. I even loaded some magazines with mixtures of all 5 of the ammo. Billy shot the gun with only his finger and thumb holding it and he was shooting it upside down. We could not get it to malfunction.


so its working now?
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@Millie's gun ran 400+ rounds today with 6 different people shooting it, 5 different magazines, at least 5 different weights/manufacturer/bullet shape ammo, and it never missed a beat, ZERO problems. I even loaded some magazines with mixtures of all 5 of the ammo. Billy shot the gun with only his finger and thumb holding it and he was shooting it upside down. We could not get it to malfunction.
So she won the $1000 prize for a 1911 running 300 rounds with no malfunctions? :D
 
Never heard of someone having so many issues with multiple guns constantly.
Like, have you had a gun that didnt have an issue yet?

Hopefully you get this sorted out at some point.
You and me both!
I do have gun issues pretty regularly, don't I? lol.
Today the RIA went perfectly through many, many rounds.
The only guns that I have that have not had any issues that I can't account for : G19, Rossi revolver, KelTec .380.
So half my guns have had issues....that's bad. But I shoot a lot, I'm told, and I guess I wear them out!
 
Maybe take up knitting ?
This has already been suggested to me as a hobby I might be able to do without breaking anything!

I think I'll stick to shooting, though, plenty of time to knit when I'm 95 years old. Shooting is too much fun to quit! You take up knitting, then tell me how it goes....lol. I'll be on the range and doing matches, winter will be here soon, and I'll expect some toasty mittens and a nice warm hat with a little ball on top.....get to it!! lol.
 
See, I like this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I told a man today that was crowing about his guns that they all work if you leave them in the safe.
I’m proof of that. o_O
 
The skier is falling because of mistakes they are making, not mistakes with their equipment as we're seeing here.

Again, Ive never heard of someone having so many issues with almost ALL of their guns.
And while I dont shoot a ton, I know some that shoot almost daily and I never hear this sort of talk.
Maybe I need to find out what guns they have, and get some of those! lol.
 
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