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Red Wolf sighting... maybe...

Discussion in 'Survival, Preparedness, and Outdoors' started by bigfelipe, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. bigfelipe

    bigfelipe Phil-osopher... Charter Life Member

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    So I was driving back from Nag's Head yesterday afternoon and ran across one on the side of the road near the wildlife conservation area near the Alligator River area. Couldn't get a picture but it stopped and stared as I drove by. Beautiful animal. At first I thought it was a yote, but as I got closer I noticed the shape and color weren't right. I know they are closely related, so I can't be 100% sure. I know they reintroduced them to that exact area but don't know how common they are... Anyone out that way come across them before?
     
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    They have become quite common where I fish in N Wisconsin. See them running down the roads alot.

    Sure are beautiful critters. Not surprised they are expanding here.
     
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    MacEntyre Shoot on Sight! Charter Member Supporting Member

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    They are not expanding here... they were "introduced" in the Alligator River Wildlife Refuge. One Red Wolf found dead from gunshot resulted in an extensive investigation. I believe 'yote hunting is restricted in the counties surrounding the ARWR.
     
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    I had three animals trot across the trail 10-15 yards in front of me last week at Raven Rock State Park about 10am like I wasn't even there. I assumed they were coyotes, but they were darker than I expected, but about the “right” size.

    Just now looking at pics on the web and these critters were not wolves.
     
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    I promise you have not seen a red wolf in N Wisconsin. And if you did, USFWS would love to hear about it.
     
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    Couple years back guy that trapped at the farm in years past accidentally caught one when trapping down east that way in one of his traps. He had the pictures on his phone of it and was a beautiful animal. He said he called the wildlife group to report it for them to come get it and they said they had not traveled that far to where he was according to the trackers and was he sure, he said he told them well you come tell this one he is not supposed to be here yet because he is and he has a tracker on. They quickly came and got it and returned it to the refuge and admitted when they got it that they had wondered where it had gotten to since its tracker had died and wasnt reporting a location.
     
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    BBD280 God, Guns, and Guts

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    What county was he in?
     
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    Honestly trying to rememember now since it was about 2-3 years ago when he went down and came back with the picture but think it was somewhere in the creswell area but not positive on that.
     
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    We had coyotes with a red tinge to the fur in the wildlife preserve across from my old place in Illinois. Lots of folks thought they were wolves.
     
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    You mean lab coyote. The Red Wolf doesn't exist. It's a USF&G creation of coyotes bred to look more wolf-life. And also to bilk people out of money by the Red Wolf Coalition whose members bounce back and forth between gubmint lobbying and gubmint jobs.

    Kill em all.
     
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    That would describe what I saw in Raven Rock State park outside Lillington last week.
     
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    Yeah, they're easily defeated. I see those ankle monitors at WalMart all the time... :)
     
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    Weren’t they having trouble introducing these things because they eagerly breed with the native coyotes?
     
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    Where in northern Wisconsin?

    The Museum of Life and Science had several; they kept two, and moved the rest elsewhere for breeding and repopulation.
     
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    Might have been Grey!

    I don't hunt, so I claim ignorance!
     
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    Near Presque Isle. About 300 yards from the UP.
     
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    I have family from Rheinlander north to UP, straddling either side of the border all the way to Duluth. I have fond memories of that area.
     
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    Us too, we have a cabin (actually a cinder block tent) built back in the 40's. I love it, 8 months a year!

    I don't hunt but I love to fish for Musky, Smallies and Walleye up there.

    No hard water fishing for me though. Too many years avoiding cold water like the plague in 53s/46s and Hueys.
     
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    That's awesome. Nice area for a cabin. I have not been up in years; before I got married (20 years ago) I would go up every other or third Christmas and spend a couple weeks, hunt, do some ice fishing; I would go up every three or four summers for a few weeks. We used to have our family reunions in Ironwood and Bessemer, I did a lot of hunting and hiking up near the Porcupine Mountains in the UP.

    I enjoy visiting in the winter, I'd never want to live there.
     
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    That's what I heard...
     
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    Well, almost. They are naturally occurring, but they are just a hybrid. A number of animals do that. Most are not terribly self sustaining for different reasons. They were not made in a lab. I just think the labs got overly excited about them and are trying hard to make them their own species. They are a moderately successful mutt.

    The only one I have seen was in the Smokies. Up at Newfound Gap. Much larger than I expected. Way bigger than a coyote. Beautiful animal. I might try to track down the pic I took of it.
     
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    Found the pic.


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    They may have existed before the coyote infestation of NC but they no longer exist as their own species. The ones illegally release on private land near Alligator river were created by a USFWS laboratory and subsequently either died off or interbred with coyotes creating coywolves. Read the highlights of the red "woof" thread on NC hunt and fish...

    https://nchuntandfish.com/forums/in...&share_fid=18272&share_type=t&link_source=app

    5000+ posts chronicling an ongoing saga of about 10 years of failure. They failed in Texas before they failed in NC. Untold millions of wasted taxpayer funding. They should've tried to rescue the dodo birds instead or maybe the dinosaurs like Jurassic park
     
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    Interesting. Didn't know about any of this... I heard about it vaguely back when I first looked at paddling the alligator river area. Didn't know about the controversy...
     
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