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I'm needing a safe. I know buy the biggest one I can afford! Lol my questions are about placement and humidity control.

I want to place the safe in a closet but there is no outlets in there for a rod. Do the dry packs( not sure what they are called) work?

I'm thinking that place the safe in such a way that it's impossible to pry on the door by placing it in a corner.

Also is there any real difference in the major manufacturers? Cannon, Winchester etc.
 
Dry packets work by trapping moisture in to silica crystals that can be dried in the oven and reused. A golden rod works by raising the ambient temperature inside the safe to increase the water carrying capacity of the air to prevent condensation. They both work and you can use both at the same time. You could always run a new outlet in to you closet. It isn't hard.

Your idea of hiding it from plain view and putting it in a hard to access location is perfect. Remember to bolt it to the floor if you can.

As for safe companies.....the security of the safe itself depends the steel thickness. Thicker steel = more security/strength.

Also, Drake safes are the best. Just FYI.
 
If the closet is adjacent to an interior wall check the other side of that wall for an outlet that you can tap off of. That's what I did for mine. The closet I use backs up to another bedroom and there is an outlet directly behind the closet. Measure where that outlet would fall in the closet and cut a hole about 6" left or right of that, just stay within the same studs. About a foot or so of wire, box, an outlet and cover and you'll have everything you need for less than $10.
 
I'm needing a safe. I know buy the biggest one I can afford!

I bought the smallest safe I could possibly find.

The larger the safe, the greater the economic consequences of filling it.

;)
 
Stackon makes a dehumidifier that the silica changes color the more moisture it absorbs ,it has a fold out plug on the back remove it from the safe plug it into a wall socket till the silica turns blue, then just hang it back in the safe, check dsg or online
 
Stackon makes a dehumidifier that the silica changes color the more moisture it absorbs ,it has a fold out plug on the back remove it from the safe plug it into a wall socket till the silica turns blue, then just hang it back in the safe, check dsg or online
And it will go out quickly. I had one and it wasn't the best, but I do think it served its purpose. The other thing to keep in mind is if you keep your guns properly oiled and cleaned, the moisture content is less of a concern. Much more important that you have and use the safe to prevent fire, theft, or little ones messing with them.
 
Way back in the day I used to have this thing that looked like a colander sitting on top of a plastic bowl. You would dump crystals in the top part and they would absorb water and turn to gel and fall into the lower bowl through the holes in the top bowl. When the top was empty, you would dump the sludge and reload. Worked very well for a few years before I discovered the reusable packs which seem to work well as long as you get them large enough for the volume of the safe.


EDIT: this is what I used to use: https://www.amazon.com/Dri-Z-Air-DZA-U-Dri-Z-Air/dp/B000PDUV60
 
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I bought the smallest safe I could possibly find.

The larger the safe, the greater the economic consequences of filling it.

;)


There is certainly some logic behind this statement, but no gusto my friend...........with guns its never about need.
 
Maybe that has been answered earlier but too lazy tonight to search. What humidity level do y'all keep in the safe; mine is between 47 and 52%


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And it will go out quickly. I had one and it wasn't the best, but I do think it served its purpose. The other thing to keep in mind is if you keep your guns properly oiled and cleaned, the moisture content is less of a concern. Much more important that you have and use the safe to prevent fire, theft, or little ones messing with them.
Funny, mine has lasted eight years and it's in the safe in the basement, where I have to be more careful because of the hi humdity ,the upstairs safe , the humidity isn't a problem
 
DampRid is sold at Home Depot, the little containers and hanging pouches.
 
There is certainly some logic behind this statement, but no gusto my friend...........with guns its never about need.

No kidding!!!

I bought a new (gently used) safe a couple weeks ago from a neighbor. Since then I've bought 4 more pistols and can't fit them all inside. Seems my theory doesn't work.
 
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Funny, mine has lasted eight years and it's in the safe in the basement, where I have to be more careful because of the hi humdity ,the upstairs safe , the humidity isn't a problem
How often do you take it out, plug it in, and let it dry?
 
How often do you take it out, plug it in, and let it dry?
Only when it needs it according to the scale on the front, more often in the summer months, not so much in the winter , I think one thing that causes them to go bad, is people plug the in more than needed
 
Stackon makes a dehumidifier that the silica changes color the more moisture it absorbs ,it has a fold out plug on the back remove it from the safe plug it into a wall socket till the silica turns blue, then just hang it back in the safe, check dsg or online

I have one of these. Works pretty well when I actually remember to unplug it and put it back in the safe.
 
I have several Eva Dry E500's from this guy. I have one in a closet too and no outlets. If you are on a concrete slab I recommend lifting the safe or putting a vapor barrier under it. I'm going to have to move mine to fix this. My closet gets really damp is we have lots of rain. Don't have the time or money to fix it right but I need to lift the safe up and get it off the carpet.


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My safe is in a room with a dehumidifier that never gets above 45. Have a goldenrod and a silica pack in the safe, but it's been a year and the silica doesn't need to be recharged yet. Nothing really rusts. My understanding is that humidity isn't nearly as big a problem as condensation is.
 
My safe is in a room with a dehumidifier that never gets above 45. Have a goldenrod and a silica pack in the safe, but it's been a year and the silica doesn't need to be recharged yet. Nothing really rusts. My understanding is that humidity isn't nearly as big a problem as condensation is.
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condensation is really an indication of excess humidity in the home.
 
condensation is really an indication of excess humidity in the home.
Yes, obviously. I meant that my understanding is that humidity isn't that big an issue until you get condensation. Probably better to say that humidity is bad and condensation is really bad.
 
Stackon makes a dehumidifier that the silica changes color the more moisture it absorbs ,it has a fold out plug on the back remove it from the safe plug it into a wall socket till the silica turns blue, then just hang it back in the safe, check dsg or online
Tractor supply sells these. I keep my rifles in silicon gun socks, a golden rod in the floor in front of the door (per manufacturer instructions) and a dehumidifier like discussed above on each shelf.

And Drake Safes are the best bang for your buck!
 
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Seen in Aldi today, exactly the same design as the Stack On plug in dehumidifier that I bought at Academy Sports for $20.
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I think I'm going to go with the Winchester 26 gun safe from TS. It has a higher fire rating than most in my price range ( $750 max) at 45 mins instead of 30min. And it has a nice door organizer too. Should be able to get it next payday :)
 
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