Safety on a glock

Alabamacoastie said:
This is what you want, but they DO NOT work with Gen5 Glocks... Maybe they'll come out with a Gen5 version eventually.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/lone-wolf-siderlock-glock-gen1-4-security-trigger.html

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And, for everyone... Don't trust Optics Planet when their website says something is in stock.

Last week, I ordered $900 worth of Glock parts which were supposed to be in stock. After OP charged my credit card, they sent me an email saying none of the parts were in stock and it'd be 8 weeks, at least, before they would ship.

I called, waited on hold, asked to cancel the order and get a refund. They canceled and the charge was instantly removed from my credit card.

Two days later, they charged my credit card again! I called, this morning, and they said it was a mistake and they'd refund the charge again... It's still there...
 
Friday said:
Jeez guys let him have his safety. :)
I have several firearms that I like the safety, others where I don't want it. It's just an application gig...some yay some nay.
This is his comfort level right now, and that's ok. Maybe in 2 years it'll change, maybe not. Regardless, you really don't need to project your issues upon him. He came to the pro's, (we're the pro's) about advice on how to do this correctly, not opinions on why you're convinced it's a sucky idea.
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Bingo.
 
Alabamacoastie said:
And, for everyone... Don't trust Optics Planet when their website says something is in stock.

Last week, I ordered $900 worth of Glock parts which were supposed to be in stock. After OP charged my credit card, they sent me an email saying none of the parts were in stock and it'd be 8 weeks, at least, before they would ship.

I called, waited on hold, asked to cancel the order and get a refund. They canceled and the charge was instantly removed from my credit card.

Two days later, they charged my credit card again! I called, this morning, and they said it was a mistake and they'd refund the charge again... It's still there...
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Something like OPs
 
TAC said:
If I can't keep one in the chamber it would just be home defense where the time to cock it isn't as critical
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Depending on where you are in the home, time might be just as critical. In my house, the bedroom is feet from the back door. If some dude comes crashing though there in the middle of the night, I won't have time to rack a slide. I'd need to be ready, because a guy can cover those ~15 feet in less than one second, probably.
Just something to think about.
 
Millie said:
Depending on where you are in the home, time might be just as critical. In my house, the bedroom is feet from the back door. If some dude comes crashing though there in the middle of the night, I won't have time to rack a slide. I'd need to be ready, because a guy can cover those ~15 feet in less than one second, probably.
Just something to think about.
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My bedroom is up the stairs and around a corner so I'd be good with that
 
TAC said:
Ya I just love my glock its the gen 5 MOS
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The P365XL is optic ready for the micro, nano, pico whatever sized tiny red dot sights. It'll be easier to carry than G19 given its size but not much sacrifice in capacity. I have the p365 manual safety and am looking into getting the XL for optics. Nothing against the Glock. I had four G19s in the past, sold them all because I love my three p80 "Glock"s better.
 
df0101 said:
The P365XL is optic ready for the micro, nano, pico whatever sized tiny red dot sights. It'll be easier to carry than G19 given its size but not much sacrifice in capacity. I have the p365 manual safety and am looking into getting the XL for optics. Nothing against the Glock. I had four G19s in the past, sold them all because I love my three p80 "Glock"s better.
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I'll try to get my hands on one to shoot and see how it feels
 
So, your wife won't let you have the gun back that you shot yourself with until you get a safety put in it?

Fess up and I'll do it for free.

Just kidding.

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Scrubber3 said:
So, your wife won't let you have the gun back that you shot yourself with until you get a safety put in it?

Fess up and I'll do it for free.

Just kidding.

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I'll lie and say thats the case if you can do it.

No luckily it was only a .223 and so close a 9mm would have been way worse
 
Scrubber3 said:
I was kidding about both to be honest. Was the. 223 tula? You got lucky it wasn't way worse.

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No it wasn't and yes if it was 1 inch to the right the first thing it would have hit was my ankle bone. That would have been messy
 
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TAC said:
Why is that?
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Just horrible. It is not an obvious or natural movement to deactivate it. I would carry an empty chamber before i put that on a gun.

I carry a g19 with one in the pipe appendix everyday. Keep your finger where it belongs and it won't be an issue.
 
TAC said:
Why is that?
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Not sure why he didnā€™t like them, but Iā€™ve messed with one and it was a tiny little button. Heart rate goes up, fine motor skills go down. Canā€™t find your ass with both hands. Iā€™d never be able to activate that button in a crisis. I prefer ā€œpoint and clickā€

YMMV.
 
Havenā€™t completely read these all, but my advice would be to sell the Glock (or keep it as a back up) and purchase a firearm that has an on board safety.

My reasoning is that I donā€™t like modifications to a firearms function that wasnā€™t directly designed to be on board in the first place. The Glock you have was designed and built to function as it stands. Not with a modified safety installed.

They may work fine. It may never be an issue. But considering itā€™s a tool that you are betting your life on; then I would stick to leaving it to functioned as the designers designed, the engineers built, and has been proven and tested as reliable for almost 40 years.


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Yeah I have to agree with @B00ger. Buy something else with a thumb safety to carry. Something you feel comfortable with. Glock isn't the only thing out there and I carry one every day. (G19 MOS is one of my CCWs) I wouldn't change the weapon, just asking for trouble in my opinion.

Yeah, if my friend shot me, he/she would likely not be my friend anymore.
 
What was that Glock they made for the military contract? Had a traditional slide safety. 19X? 19 something...?
Anyways, when Glock leaked last year of their 'bold exciting new model' I thought it'd be that 19 with the factory slide safety. They'd sell a ton.
But it was a .22 caliber G44.
o_O
Not that that's bad I guess, but they obviously were already tooled up to make a 19 with a safety without breaking ground into rimfire, mostly unknown to them.
I dunno, I still think a slide safety on a G19 would be a big seller. Maybe they're sittin' on it.
 
A Glock with an external safety is like, ahhh never mind, they wouldn't understand that either.
 
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FWIW. I would either sell the Glock or keep it for another day and time. Start a search for a gun that has the said thumb safety that you'd be comfortable with.

Plenty of choices out there that many many people carry everyday with what you're asking for. Doesn't seem like there's sound mechanical add-on options for what you're looking for.

If you bought a Honda accord and then said hey I want a convertible, then called around to body shops, what do you think they tell you? It can be done, but why not buy a factory built convertable??

A friend actually did that to his 1985 Volvo with a sawzall. Was fun until it rained and was winter... Just wasn't the thing to do even though it seemed like a good idea is my point when there's solid options available.
 
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Lots of options for guns with a manual thumb safety. I wouldn't try to add something that didnt come on it, or wasnt a factory option. For those saying you don't need a manual safety... It's your life and your decision.
 
what about a heavier trigger like kahrs do with the nytrigger? That is around 8 lbs or something
 
Mr. Bggs said:
what about a heavier trigger like kahrs do with the nytrigger? That is around 8 lbs or something
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I was strongly considering that too but I know it messes with my trigger squeeze and accuracy I could get use to it after some practice tho
 
TAC said:
I was strongly considering that too but I know it messes with my trigger squeeze and accuracy I could get use to it after some practice tho
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You could try out a decocker style set up like a CZ P-07. The first trigger pull is heavier, but after that they are all the same. Less training hump to get over, but still leave a bit more of the "safety" that you are after.
 
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B00ger said:
You could try out a decocker style set up like a CZ P-07. The first trigger pull is heavier, but after that they are all the same. Less training hump to get over, but still leave a bit more of the "safety" that you are after.
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CZ is always the correct answer. :D
 
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B00ger said:
You could try out a decocker style set up like a CZ P-07. The first trigger pull is heavier, but after that they are all the same. Less training hump to get over, but still leave a bit more of the "safety" that you are after.
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Or something like the p99 As.
It's a light polymer gun, striker fired, but has a decocker to give it a long first round trigger pull. Very glock like in looks and ergonomics.
 
The two times that we're at most risk for an unintentional discharge are when drawing and holstering.

The reason that the US Cavalry requested the manual safety on the 1911 was for hasty reholstering with a cocked, loaded pistol...not for carrying cocked and locked "like JMB intended." Once it's safely snuggled into the holster, you can place the safety in the OFF position.

Just keep your finger clear of the trigger until the gun is pointed downrange when you draw it.

Bottom line: Is gun. Gun not safe.

With that ever present in your mind, proceed with all due caution.
 
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