SC Prisoner transfer deaths

Happened right down from here...hard for me to believe they wouldn’t have thought it was a bad idea to proceed!
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That is terrible. Water is the most powerful force on Earth. 8.33 lbs per gallon. Nothing can stop it if it overwhelms a natural or man-made barrier.
 
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This is one where I certainly hope the employees are held PERSONALLY responsible. As in jail time for manslaughter. Same for anyone in the chain of command with knowledge of the situation.
 
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So sad.

Should be murder charges. No reason for them to die.

Just negligence on the two deputies and their chain of command.

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Negligent Homicide and a complimentary charge for stupidity.
 
I looked at the news website. Doesn't list names.

But when transferring female prisoners you most likely would use female transfer personnel.

No excuses though. Chain of command should have nixed the transfer.

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Tim said:
This is one where I certainly hope the employees are held PERSONALLY responsible. As in jail time for manslaughter. Same for anyone in the chain of command with knowledge of the situation.
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I get the employee responsible part but how do you think anyone in the chain of command could be responsible? Ultimately it's that single employees stupidity that was so reckless to cause the event.
 
Cowboy said:
I get the employee responsible part but how do you think anyone in the chain of command could be responsible? Ultimately it's that single employees stupidity that was so reckless to cause the event.
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I'm going under the assumption that a guard did not make the call to conduct the transfer or choose the route.
 
They should face charges. Evidently sat on top of the van waiting for help while the inmates were in there fighting for their lives. The LEO is responsible for every prisoners safety. They should have tried to free them until they passed out from lack of air themselves.

I agree with @Cowboy , No supervisor ordered them to drive through a river.
 
Before passing judgement, the waters are still rising in that area and the possibility of being trapped is there. Why the officers were on top of the van is questionable for sure but it was also stated their efforts were in vain so wait and see what the investigation uncovers.
 
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Wife just said it was two women who died, thats just a bad deal all the way around.
 
Those are some low IQ deputies for sure. Warning the public and then risk other people’s lives. Jeez.
 
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It looks likes they were mental health patients, not prisoners.
 
premise said:
If only there was a way they could have ever kept from ending up in the van to begin with....

edit: unless they were real mental patients.
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Unless they did something worthy of the death penalty you certainly can’t put any of the blame on the inmates for being in that van. Your statement has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve seen on here in a while unless you truly believe every crime should be open to the death penalty.
 
I don't know why anyone would drive around a barricade in these conditions. It's just like the stupid mother in Union County that drove around a barricade and killed her one year old. Should the mom and deputies face the same charges?
 
Scott88 said:
It looks likes they were mental health patients, not prisoners.
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If you're shackled in the back of a locked police van being escorted by sworn deputies...then you're a prisoner. Maybe not a convict, but definitely not free. Ergo, a prisoner.
 
Tim said:
If you're shackled in the back of a locked police van being escorted by sworn deputies...then you're a prisoner. Maybe not a convict, but definitely not free. Ergo, a prisoner.
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The story I heard this morning on CBS said that the women were not shackled in the van.
 
This is like the dumb ass that killed her toddler on NC218 by going around barricades that were placed due to flood waters over the road.

I was out in the storm managing tree removal as they came down. Trees wrapped up in power lines were a no-go for us, and we'd just barricade the road until Duke cleared it. We had people cussing us out, threatening, and simply ignoring the barricades because they thought we were just closing roads for the fun of it.

When I hear stories like this, and especially the "mom" who killed her son by driving around the barricades, I become a bit furious. It's not rocket science.
 
Several of the news reports said that the van was "overtaken by flood waters." If you're driving along on dry land and floodwaters suddenly appear so quickly that you can't escape, that's being overtaken. When the floodwaters are there already, you see them, and you drive into them anyway, that is something else entirely.
 
I have a buddy that hired on as a CO for a syate prison. I asked him,"What happens if there's a fire?"

He replied, "They get released when we get the court order to release them. No exceptions."

On a completely unrelated note, they once did get such a court order to release a prisoner. See you later, have a nice life and out he went. A couple days or weeks go by and a deputy shows up to transport the prisoner for a court date. He isn't there.

Court date was to answer to charges for forgery. Folks, you can't make this stuff up.
 
ChickenHawk said:
Unless they did something worthy of the death penalty you certainly can’t put any of the blame on the inmates for being in that van. Your statement has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve seen on here in a while unless you truly believe every crime should be open to the death penalty.
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The only thing that interests me less than criminal rights are the bleeding hearts that defend them.

Good people die daily and we say nothing; I refuse to care to when the POSs that work so hard to destroy our society are removed from it.
 
premise said:
The only thing that interests me less than criminal rights are the bleeding hearts that defend them.

Good people die daily and we say nothing; I refuse to care to when the POSs that work so hard to destroy our society are removed from it.
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Well it’s a good thing I’m sure you’ve never broke a law in your life and destroyed society. I don’t think there are any bleeding hearts in here defending criminals, but they don’t deserve to die drowning in a van because of police incompetence.
 
ChickenHawk said:
Well it’s a good thing I’m sure you’ve never broke a law in your life and destroyed society. I don’t think there are any bleeding hearts in here defending criminals, but they don’t deserve to die drowning in a van because of police incompetence.
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I don't think I would call it police incompetence. I would call it more of a dumbass decision by the guy driving the van who happens to be a LEO. To call it police incompetence implies that all police would have done the same thing.
 
ChickenHawk said:
Well it’s a good thing I’m sure you’ve never broke a law in your life and destroyed society. I don’t think there are any bleeding hearts in here defending criminals, but they don’t deserve to die drowning in a van because of police incompetence.
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Cosmic justice.

I'm no statistical expert on mortality, but I'm willing to bet the number one way to prevent drowning in an inmate transport vehicle is to not be an inmate.

Sorry if that reality offends you.
 
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I don't think I would call it police incompetence. I would call it more of a dumbass decision by the guy driving the van who happens to be a LEO. To call it police incompetence implies that all police would have done the same thing.
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That’s exactly what police incompetence means. The fact that you think I meant that about all law enforcement says more about you than it does what I said. Regardless, the person driving the van is incompetent and a moron.
 
premise said:
Cosmic justice.

I'm no statistical expert on mortality, but I'm willing to bet the number one way to prevent drowning in an inmate transport vehicle is to not be an inmate.

Sorry if that reality offends you.
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Trust me when I say it doesn’t offend me. You did avoid the part of my response about you never breaking a single law. So someone who is put in jail for a few grams of marijuana deserves the same sentence as a murderer in your world. Just seems like a bad scale. Hopefully that cosmic justice never pays you a visit for any wrongs you may have committed.
 
SPST said:
I don't know why anyone would drive around a barricade in these conditions. It's just like the stupid mother in Union County that drove around a barricade and killed her one year old. Should the mom and deputies face the same charges?
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Yes
 
ChickenHawk said:
Trust me when I say it doesn’t offend me. You did avoid the part of my response about you never breaking a single law. So someone who is put in jail for a few grams of marijuana deserves the same sentence as a murderer in your world. Just seems like a bad scale. Hopefully that cosmic justice never pays you a visit for any wrongs you may have committed.
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Please presume nothing about what I've been paid by karma, as I've not done the same to you.

A forger is a damn thief, a group of people I have 0 sympathy for.

Again, it seems as though my opinion seems to have struck a chord. I'm sorry if that is the case, but I have little room in my heart for thieves, lifelong addicts, and the other types that are a drain this society that take and take while the govt forces me to donate to their continued wrongdoing.
 
ChickenHawk said:
That’s exactly what police incompetence means. The fact that you think I meant that about all law enforcement says more about you than it does what I said. Regardless, the person driving the van is incompetent and a moron.
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Just a little information the people driving are not Leo/police but certified Correctional officers which is very different.
 
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