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My fishing is pretty much restricted to mountain trout waters. We're headed to Atlantic Beach in a couple weeks for a week and I'd like to try some fishing from shore.

I know nothing.

Pretend I'm walking into Bass Pro with an empty cart and full wallet....what should I walk out with?
 
Pretend I'm walking into Bass Pro with an empty cart and full wallet....what should I walk out with?

ONE of everything.... And if you need help hauling it call me....

Find a local pier, that will be your best bet.... They should have something you can rent for the day...
 
You are surf fishing yes? you want something like the bottom rig pictured. We used to call them flounder rigs. You get some fresh shrimp for the hooks and an sinker on the bottom. The sinker keeps the line from moving and the bait floats around with the surf action. Also, you need a stout enough and long enough fishing rod to be able to throw it out there.


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My son recently caught a 4' nurse shark in calf deep water. Just sayin.
 
7' spinning rod thay holds 12lb test, 2 hook bottom rig with a 3oz pyramid weight, fresh shrimp & a saltwater license.

Edit to add: a sand spike if you dont want to hold the rod the whole time.

Thats all you need. You can catch fish from Ft. Macon to Emerald Isle no problem.
 
They've got you covered. I would add that if you see a school of bait fish moving down (or up) the shore try to cast to it if you can. Bigger fish will follow.
 
7' spinning rod thay holds 12lb test, 2 hook bottom rig with a 3oz pyramid weight, fresh shrimp & a saltwater license.

Edit to add: a sand spike if you dont want to hold the rod the whole time.

Thats all you need. You can catch fish from Ft. Macon to Emerald Isle no problem.

Where do I get the shrimp around there? We're staying at A Place at the Beach on the east end of the island.
 
Cut bait (menhadden or mullet), squid, bloodworms are other natural baits you can use.

There is a artificial bloodworm that you can use.


Just one thing. Never lip a bluefish like a bass.



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You are surf fishing yes? you want something like the bottom rig pictured. We used to call them flounder rigs. You get some fresh shrimp for the hooks and an sinker on the bottom. The sinker keeps the line from moving and the bait floats around with the surf action. Also, you need a stout enough and long enough fishing rod to be able to throw it out there.


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I can tell you that the locals fishing for drum from the piers on OBX doubt use a 24" leader. They use just a few inches. Keeps the bait from doing a helicopter and increases casting distance.

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You can check out Freeman's tackle just before the light in AB or just over the bridge go to Chasin' tails. 99% of the time my bait tackle (that I forgot to buy inland) I get from Chasin tails. They will give you tips and are pretty good guys. I'm down about every weekend from May to Oct. If you have facebook check out the facebook pages of all the shops down there for what is trending. Also there is some good info on the chasin'tails website on rigs and fishing etc.

7' medium rod 2500-3000 series reel 10-12lb mono or if you want braid go with "fins"(less wind knots than powerpro). If you go with braid tip it with 18" of 15-20lb fluro for jig heads and casting jigs.

Right now there is a decent mullet and puffer bite. Larger schools of bull reds father offshore. You can use a "sam's gitter" rig tipped with small marble size pieces of FRESH shrimp. Cast and retrieve with little jerks of the rod tip to make it bounce along.

If you want to go the 2 hook rig route and want to actually fish and not just throw it out and let it wait in the rod holder stay away from the pyramid sinkers. You have to bring the bait to the fish and the pyramids just don't allow the bait to find where the fish are (ie move around). Look into the flat pancake weights in 1/2-1oz size. Cast and retrieve in and around the breaks of the waves, look for soughs to fish. Most fish will be right at your toes to just where the wave begins to break over. You don't have to cast 200 yds out for these fish.

Jig heads: 1/4-3/8 oz tipped with new penny gulp shrimp or chartreuse swimming mullet. Bump it along the bottom, cast and retrieve.

Jig heads: (mustad SH786 1/4-3/8oz) this is a short hook jig head and works well with mullet minnows. Just insert the hook from the bottom jaw up through the nose and bump along the bottom. This is nasty when the flounder show up since the hook is smaller in length I get more hook ups than the larger normal size jigheads. It's pretty much my go to jig head.

Carolina rig (easy to tie) with a 3/8-1/2 oz lead on a live bait circle hook with a mud minnow or piece of shrimp.

The false albacore (cat food) should show up soon and if you see them buzzing the top at 30+mph you can try an "epoxy jig" ($$) or the cheaper $3 casting jigs in 1-2oz. Cast and retrieve like hell stopping occasionally to let it flutter down some. If you catch one, look for teeth, if it has only little or none, let it go unless you want to boil it.

Ft Macon jetty and north of the jetty along the inlet can hold some black drum as well. Bottom rig with shrimp for these.

Radio Island has a beach and could hold some trout. Jig head with chartreuse swimming mullet.

If you go to Harkers Island for the day there are a few bridges on the way to the island from Beaufort with fishing piers or an area to park on the side that you can fish.

Good luck.
 
Where do I get the shrimp around there? We're staying at A Place at the Beach on the east end of the island.


Up that way Atlantic beach seafood has fresh shrimp most of the time. Can't go wrong stopping by Chasin Tails, they are very knowledgeable and friendly.
 
You can check out Freeman's tackle just before the light in AB or just over the bridge go to Chasin' tails. 99% of the time my bait tackle (that I forgot to buy inland) I get from Chasin tails. They will give you tips and are pretty good guys. I'm down about every weekend from May to Oct. If you have facebook check out the facebook pages of all the shops down there for what is trending. Also there is some good info on the chasin'tails website on rigs and fishing etc.

7' medium rod 2500-3000 series reel 10-12lb mono or if you want braid go with "fins"(less wind knots than powerpro). If you go with braid tip it with 18" of 15-20lb fluro for jig heads and casting jigs.

Right now there is a decent mullet and puffer bite. Larger schools of bull reds father offshore. You can use a "sam's gitter" rig tipped with small marble size pieces of FRESH shrimp. Cast and retrieve with little jerks of the rod tip to make it bounce along.

If you want to go the 2 hook rig route and want to actually fish and not just throw it out and let it wait in the rod holder stay away from the pyramid sinkers. You have to bring the bait to the fish and the pyramids just don't allow the bait to find where the fish are (ie move around). Look into the flat pancake weights in 1/2-1oz size. Cast and retrieve in and around the breaks of the waves, look for soughs to fish. Most fish will be right at your toes to just where the wave begins to break over. You don't have to cast 200 yds out for these fish.

Jig heads: 1/4-3/8 oz tipped with new penny gulp shrimp or chartreuse swimming mullet. Bump it along the bottom, cast and retrieve.

Jig heads: (mustad SH786 1/4-3/8oz) this is a short hook jig head and works well with mullet minnows. Just insert the hook from the bottom jaw up through the nose and bump along the bottom. This is nasty when the flounder show up since the hook is smaller in length I get more hook ups than the larger normal size jigheads. It's pretty much my go to jig head.

Carolina rig (easy to tie) with a 3/8-1/2 oz lead on a live bait circle hook with a mud minnow or piece of shrimp.

The false albacore (cat food) should show up soon and if you see them buzzing the top at 30+mph you can try an "epoxy jig" ($$) or the cheaper $3 casting jigs in 1-2oz. Cast and retrieve like hell stopping occasionally to let it flutter down some. If you catch one, look for teeth, if it has only little or none, let it go unless you want to boil it.

Ft Macon jetty and north of the jetty along the inlet can hold some black drum as well. Bottom rig with shrimp for these.

Radio Island has a beach and could hold some trout. Jig head with chartreuse swimming mullet.

If you go to Harkers Island for the day there are a few bridges on the way to the island from Beaufort with fishing piers or an area to park on the side that you can fish.

Good luck.


Lots of good info here. I was just keeping it simple (bare minimum) since he said he is new to it.

Puffers are on fire. Blues and kings are running right now. Reds and specks are around also.
 
Don't lip anything out of the ocean.

Educate me...what do mean by "lip"? Seriously, I fish for mountain trout. That's it.

I'm picturing @Chdamn and some compromising situation...
 
Educate me...what do mean by "lip"? Seriously, I fish for mountain trout. That's it.

I'm picturing @Chdamn and some compromising situation...

Blues have sharp teeth. "Lipping" is to stick you thumb in the mouth and index & social under the jaw. Then trap the lower jaw with thumb and index to hold. google "lipping a bass" .
 
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Just tagging in.

Sometimes I just toss a pompano rig with sand fleas into a trough and drink a beer, other times I want to actually be fishing. Given your experience and existing gear I wonder if anyone will tell you about fly fishing for Spanish, I hear that it's a lot of fun but I've never done it.
 
Just go to a pier. You don't need a salt water license and generally your chances are better. Sitting on the surf is fun but the fishing usually isn't that great, honestly, in my experience.
 
Just tagging in.

Sometimes I just toss a pompano rig with sand fleas into a trough and drink a beer, other times I want to actually be fishing. Given your experience and existing gear I wonder if anyone will tell you about fly fishing for Spanish, I hear that it's a lot of fun but I've never done it.


My buddy fly fishes from the surf. I don't have all my old fly gear or I would join him cause it looks fun. When the blues are running hard it doesn't matter what you throw out there as they will bite anything that hits the water.
 
Educate me...what do mean by "lip"? Seriously, I fish for mountain trout. That's it.

I'm picturing @Chdamn and some compromising situation...



tod0987 explained it for the bluefish, but almost everything in the ocean has teeth. Some can bite/cut you pretty well, others can take off a thumb. Others have sharp gill plates, so you can't 'gill' them. The only really safe way to grab an ocean fish is to 'tail' him or, if you plan to keep him for dinner and he's small enough, poke your fingers in his eye sockets.
 
Just tagging in.

Sometimes I just toss a pompano rig with sand fleas into a trough and drink a beer, other times I want to actually be fishing. Given your experience and existing gear I wonder if anyone will tell you about fly fishing for Spanish, I hear that it's a lot of fun but I've never done it.


Huh.....I have an 8 weight steelhead rod that I haven't used in 10 years....
 
Huh.....I have an 8 weight steelhead rod that I haven't used in 10 years....

LOL. The backcasts on a crowded pier or beach probably wouldn't earn you many friends, but would make for a hilarious video.
 
My fishing is pretty much restricted to mountain trout waters. We're headed to Atlantic Beach in a couple weeks for a week and I'd like to try some fishing from shore.

I know nothing.

Pretend I'm walking into Bass Pro with an empty cart and full wallet....what should I walk out with?


What week will you be in AB?
 
Huh.....I have an 8 weight steelhead rod that I haven't used in 10 years....
Yeah, probably not from the pier, but I don't know why it wouldn't work for the surf.
 
LOL. The backcasts on a crowded pier or beach probably wouldn't earn you many friends, but would make for a hilarious video.

This beach tends to be pretty well deserted. Too cold for most, and too many old people. Yeah, it's a BLAST.

We only go because my wife's grandparents are close.
 
Week after Easter.


I'll be out of town that week, that's why I didn't originally offer to fish with you/give you some pointers. I had a feeling it was the same week. Either way there has been lots of good info given. You can go balls to the wall or simplistic. You will catch tons or nothing worth writing home about. There are plenty of fish to be caught here, just depends on the right day with the right tackle at the right location. Since you are going to be in AB I would just hit Chasin Tails on your way in, tell them you want to catch some fish and they will set you up with everything needed. Have fun, drink a beer or two and hopefully you get some supper.

I am lucky to live on the island (opposite end of AB) and fish year round. I could name every tackle for every occasion in every location but you would just waste a bunch of money as sometimes so do I. On Saturday I caught 6 blow toads and 3 bluefish using just what I said was the basic setup. I did use a 1oz egg weight instead of the 3oz pyramid since it was pretty calm though. Weather was nice and my wife wanted to go to the beach for an hour or 2. When that happens I just bring one rod, one rig and one bait (I have kids so not much fishing is done to warrant bringing a tackle box). You also cant go wrong with a Carolina rig in the surf too though. I catch tons of blues on that rig with any type of bait (shrimp to cut to artificial).

Have a great trip and good luck!
 
I'll be out of town that week, that's why I didn't originally offer to fish with you/give you some pointers. I had a feeling it was the same week. Either way there has been lots of good info given. You can go balls to the wall or simplistic. You will catch tons or nothing worth writing home about. There are plenty of fish to be caught here, just depends on the right day with the right tackle at the right location. Since you are going to be in AB I would just hit Chasin Tails on your way in, tell them you want to catch some fish and they will set you up with everything needed. Have fun, drink a beer or two and hopefully you get some supper.

I am lucky to live on the island (opposite end of AB) and fish year round. I could name every tackle for every occasion in every location but you would just waste a bunch of money as sometimes so do I. On Saturday I caught 6 blow toads and 3 bluefish using just what I said was the basic setup. I did use a 1oz egg weight instead of the 3oz pyramid since it was pretty calm though. Weather was nice and my wife wanted to go to the beach for an hour or 2. When that happens I just bring one rod, one rig and one bait (I have kids so not much fishing is done to warrant bringing a tackle box). You also cant go wrong with a Carolina rig in the surf too though. I catch tons of blues on that rig with any type of bait (shrimp to cut to artificial).

Have a great trip and good luck!


Thanks for the tips!

My boys will be with me, so I suspect it'll be early morning before they're up and around.
 
I had pretty good luck using a simple spoon last year. I got bored and starting casting with it instead of waiting. It was the only thing I caught fish on all day. No one else was really having any luck around us either.
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7' spinning rod thay holds 12lb test, 2 hook bottom rig with a 3oz pyramid weight, fresh shrimp & a saltwater license.

Edit to add: a sand spike if you dont want to hold the rod the whole time.

Thats all you need. You can catch fish from Ft. Macon to Emerald Isle no problem.
And take something to sit on if the fishing gets slow.
 
Last time I was at Atlantic Beach. I caught ALOT of blues on a simple white crappie jig. That was at incoming tide.
 
Damn there is a lot of advise. Not sure if I saw get a fishing license first.

If you really want to catch some fish, do some research and charter a boat (a lot of captains have boat license where you do not need an individual license) for the day and see how he fishes and ask him for some local advise. Being from out of town and no boat, the local captains will be more likely to show you where you can fish from the banks without worrying about you coming back to his drops.
 
I had pretty good luck using a simple spoon last year. I got bored and starting casting with it instead of waiting. It was the only thing I caught fish on all day. No one else was really having any luck around us either.
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Probably my favorite thing to throw is a gold kastmaster. Caught a lot of blues and spanish using those.
 
It has been said multiple times on the thread but buy the freshest shrimp possible to fish with. If fishing shrimp for blowtiads and mullet I like to use a spec rig. Fresh cut bait works well too. Call Fishtowne in Beaufort and see if the have spt/crokers etc and but a few pounds to cut unless you can throw a net. Cut pinfish caught from pier work well too and they can keep a kid occupied.
 
I grew up Surf Fishing, my mom use to drag me out the house a few times a week. Better off to fish inshore until may, Spanish mackerel won't run good until May ish. Waters a bit too cold for casting spoons for Spanish. Red drum is your best bet now on the surf. Any of those bottom rigs above, 3 oz sinker for surf. Broken blue crab is the trick for drum. Shrimp will catch everything, use fresh local shrimp over frozen import. An early morning rising tide will be best. Breakers not over 4ft. Wind under 10mph, and hopefully no east or NE wind this time of year. Dig some sand flea or use smaller hooks #4 with small pieces of shrimp and you may get into Whiting AKA Virginia Mullet, not very big fish, but one good to eat.

I toss spoons with spinners but don't fly fish. That said, I absolutely have seen guys wade out and fly fish in the surf during a Spanish mackerel run. They follow the bait fish and birds along the shore.
 
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