Shooting in Roxboro by cop

12 gauge is apparently very effective for gaining compliance once fired into the chest.
only under certain circumstances - for example "drop it" "get on the ground" "stop moving" "assume room temperature"
 
Regardless of why he was carrying, regardless of how the 911 call happened, the man pointed it at the cop. There's rarely a 'good' outcome when that happens.

The gentleman's father is all over the news demanding justice because he feels it was a 'bad shoot' (my words).
 
...As to speculation, I'd I were for some reason walking down a road with a long gun and saw a patrol car stopping near me my hands would be in the air and I would be conversing with the officer and following his instructions.
Unless my intention was to die trying to shoot popo!

Social media, pop culture, and current events (especially as hyped in the media) have convinced certain folks that it is totally unmanly to NOT be defiant towards any and every authority-type.

One must be an "Anti-Racist" in their thoughts and actions, or you're un-cool and not satisfactorily "down with the struggle".

OTOH, this guy could have simply been mentally ill. But I repeat myself.
 
Watched the weather report last night and caught some of this story. Until we have a reporter doing an interview that just tells ignorant people to STFU we are doomed. I remember some lady saying they only gave him 5 seconds or some such non-sense. Yeah 5 seconds is about 3 more than he deserved when he pointed the gun. All these idiots are likely just trying for the 15 minutes of fame on TV. Idiots probably think theyā€™ll become part of some cause and escape Roxboro. Damn morons.
 
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Come on guys ... the ā€œnarrativeā€ truth is so simple ...

A black man was shot by a white LEO ... the LEO is guilty of murder ... no matter what a video shows.

Unless some other event occurs Roxboro will likely see some ā€œimportedā€ leadership for weekend protests. Brook Sr said ā€œJustice will be served ... thatā€™s the bottom lineā€. Also earlier this week several people showed up in full black with long guns and some also OCing handgun who claimed to be the New Black Panthers ... maybe they came from the Gastonia protests since this is a death not just a diss.
 
Deer doggers will want to know what choke he had and if he used flite control wadding.
 
Social media, pop culture, and current events (especially as hyped in the media) have convinced certain folks that it is totally unmanly to NOT be defiant towards any and every authority-type.

I'm as anti-authority as they come... but there are times to argue and times to stfu and show your hands. That's not even out of respect for law, that's common sense. Knowing the difference between the two of them is very important.
 
Even if that's the case, it's no excuse to go weapons hot on citizens from the start. The Karen making the call may not know, but the officer responding has no excuse...

Akin to having an empty chamber.... your dead.....

The article by JT at the top referenced the perp suffered from mental issues.

Condition resolved....
 
Come on guys ... the ā€œnarrativeā€ truth is so simple ...

A black man was shot by a white LEO ... the LEO is guilty of murder ... no matter what a video shows.

Unless some other event occurs Roxboro will likely see some ā€œimportedā€ leadership for weekend protests. Brook Sr said ā€œJustice will be served ... thatā€™s the bottom lineā€. Also earlier this week several people showed up in full black with long guns and some also OCing handgun who claimed to be the New Black Panthers ... maybe they came from the Gastonia protests since this is a death not just a diss.

Supposedly there was a call out from NBPP for any member within 6 hrs of Roxboro to mobilize for ā€œarmed supportā€ for the family a day or two ago
 
OK put yourself in a similar situation. Your wife comes in and tells you there is some guy out in the front yard waving a shotgun around your children, you go outside with your weapon and the guy raises the shotgun toward you, what do you do?
For some reason, I read that as chickens first. :D

Waving a shotgun around my children (or chickens) on my land? Your likely to get shot anyway, whether you point it at me or not.

Just sayin'
 
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Social media, pop culture, and current events (especially as hyped in the media) have convinced certain folks that it is totally unmanly to NOT be defiant towards any and every authority-type.
This is funny to me. Race issues, gender issues, free speech, covid-19, you'd better present your soy boy rear and give in to the hysteria. Cops show up and THEN you want to show how big your balls are.
 
Supposedly there was a call out from NBPP for any member within 6 hrs of Roxboro to mobilize for ā€œarmed supportā€ for the family a day or two ago

Supposedly the guy that was shot had signed papers for the NBPP to protect his family in the event of his death. Believe what you will of that.

This info is coming from the social media videos posted of the father talking on the loudspeaker at the NBPP demostrations.
 
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White, black or purple, he'd gotten lead poisoning the first time he pointed that at me. Id assume the officer was still pulling his shotgun out of the rack when that happened, or getting it up on target. I didnt watch anything but his hands when he started squaring up on me when the patrol car was pulling over.
 
If that were true it would almost sound like he planned to be killed in a confrontation.

Itā€™s been reported the guy had mental health issues so 1) why did his family let him carry the shotgun if they claim he was unstable? But I am sure they will take no blame for their part. 2) I think this may have been suicide by cop
 
From what I have been told, the Karen that swatted him knew him, and knew/should have known he was no real danger to anyone.
No small amount of the blame needs to rest on her
If the kid was pointing a shotgun at cops, who else was he pointing it at?
I'd not put a lot of blame on her just yet.
 
Only his father could call this shooting unjustified.

Since the guy clearly was armed they can not use the usual line of shooting an unarmed harmless dude so now it hinges on how quickly did they shoot him. IMHO not too quickly and only after 2 requests to drop the gun and when he was raising it. Not sure what else the cops could have done other than waiting for him to take the first shot like in an old fashioned duel?
 
Only his father could call this shooting unjustified.

Since the guy clearly was armed they can not use the usual line of shooting an unarmed harmless dude so now it hinges on how quickly did they shoot him. IMHO not too quickly and only after 2 requests to drop the gun and when he was raising it. Not sure what else the cops could have done other than waiting for him to take the first shot like in an old fashioned duel?

I agree! We can all Monday morning quarterback this but ultimately did what he was trained to do and gave the chance to drop it 2 times then let loose on him. Had he sat there and piddled around he could have been like the cop in an older dash cam footage that was indecisive and ended up dead.
 
The video is out....looks like a legit legal shoot to me. cop gets out tells him to drop the gun 2 times, guy points the shotgun up at the officer . The cop fires a single round to the chest. Guy falls and is out. Gun is a sawed off shotgun.

The deceasedā€™s father is now hiring if you will the Crump guy that was used in Trayvon martin, Mike Brown, and others. I am sure ā€œpeacefulā€ protests will ensue again
Daddy is wasting his money and the legal team their time. No fame or money in this legit LEO defensive shoot. If the guy had mental health issues, he should NEVER have any firearm.

The family told ABC11 that the department was familiar Brooks because of previous run-ins he had with officers. They felt that this particular incident could have been handled better, given the man's mental health challenges.
 
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Let the protests ... oops I mean riots ... begin.

There will be quite a few buses coming in tomorrow or Friday at the latest ... buckle up Person Co.!
 
I'm as anti-authority as they come... but there are times to argue and times to stfu and show your hands. That's not even out of respect for law, that's common sense. Knowing the difference between the two of them is very important.
someone should repeat that....................... so i did!
 
From what I have been told, the Karen that swatted him knew him, and knew/should have known he was no real danger to anyone.
No small amount of the blame needs to rest on her
Whether or not I agree with this (I have some problems with the statement), you do point out a good thing here. IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS MENTALLY UNSTABLE, DO NOT CALL THE COPS. You may get help, or you may get them killed.

I have no problems with this shoot, btw. 100% justified
 
Whether or not I agree with this (I have some problems with the statement), you do point out a good thing here. IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS MENTALLY UNSTABLE, DO NOT CALL THE COPS. You may get help, or you may get them killed.

I have no problems with this shoot, btw. 100% justified

How about we add this: If you have a family member who is unstable, DONT LET THEM WALK AROUND WITH A SAWED OFF SHOTGUN!!!
 
Rode through uptown this evening after picking up dinner. No one around but the news crews.
 
How about we add this: If you have a family member who is unstable, DONT LET THEM WALK AROUND WITH A SAWED OFF SHOTGUN!!!

Families used to have a feeling of being responsible for each other. You know if my brother does anything stupid call me first. Now people don't care and even pay for them to move away.
 
How about we add this: If you have a family member who is unstable, DONT LET THEM WALK AROUND WITH A SAWED OFF SHOTGUN!!!

Anybody ever find out if that was a tax paid SBS?

It has no bearing on the case. I'm just very curious.


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Rode through uptown this evening after picking up dinner. No one around but the news crews.
...who were trying to stir up trouble. My wife was watching the news and I was assing throgh the living room when this segment came on on WRAL. The reporter was doing everything he could to make trouble. He was putting on quotes from the poor brother and the poor father and from people in the community who were so disappointed in the DA's decision.
 
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