Discussion in 'Firearms News and Views' started by BudE, Jul 24, 2020.
12 gauge is apparently very effective for gaining compliance once fired into the chest.
only under certain circumstances - for example "drop it" "get on the ground" "stop moving" "assume room temperature"
quality is pretty bad but it does appear he had it in his hands and pointed it at the cops.
Regardless of why he was carrying, regardless of how the 911 call happened, the man pointed it at the cop. There's rarely a 'good' outcome when that happens.
The gentleman's father is all over the news demanding justice because he feels it was a 'bad shoot' (my words).
Social media, pop culture, and current events (especially as hyped in the media) have convinced certain folks that it is totally unmanly to NOT be defiant towards any and every authority-type.
One must be an "Anti-Racist" in their thoughts and actions, or you're un-cool and not satisfactorily "down with the struggle".
OTOH, this guy could have simply been mentally ill. But I repeat myself.
Watched the weather report last night and caught some of this story. Until we have a reporter doing an interview that just tells ignorant people to STFU we are doomed. I remember some lady saying they only gave him 5 seconds or some such non-sense. Yeah 5 seconds is about 3 more than he deserved when he pointed the gun. All these idiots are likely just trying for the 15 minutes of fame on TV. Idiots probably think they’ll become part of some cause and escape Roxboro. Damn morons.
Come on guys ... the “narrative” truth is so simple ...
A black man was shot by a white LEO ... the LEO is guilty of murder ... no matter what a video shows.
Unless some other event occurs Roxboro will likely see some “imported” leadership for weekend protests. Brook Sr said “Justice will be served ... that’s the bottom line”. Also earlier this week several people showed up in full black with long guns and some also OCing handgun who claimed to be the New Black Panthers ... maybe they came from the Gastonia protests since this is a death not just a diss.
Deer doggers will want to know what choke he had and if he used flite control wadding.
I'm as anti-authority as they come... but there are times to argue and times to stfu and show your hands. That's not even out of respect for law, that's common sense. Knowing the difference between the two of them is very important.
The guy raised the shotgun twice, so the cop gave him a freebie.
I'm sure the protesters would still be there even if the cop had been returning fire.
Akin to having an empty chamber.... your dead.....
Supposedly there was a call out from NBPP for any member within 6 hrs of Roxboro to mobilize for “armed support” for the family a day or two ago
For some reason, I read that as chickens first.
Waving a shotgun around my children (or chickens) on my land? Your likely to get shot anyway, whether you point it at me or not.
This is funny to me. Race issues, gender issues, free speech, covid-19, you'd better present your soy boy rear and give in to the hysteria. Cops show up and THEN you want to show how big your balls are.
One of the rules I live by is to listen to the man holding the gun. Regardless if he is right or wrong, I prefer to not have extra holes.
Supposedly the guy that was shot had signed papers for the NBPP to protect his family in the event of his death. Believe what you will of that.
This info is coming from the social media videos posted of the father talking on the loudspeaker at the NBPP demostrations.
White, black or purple, he'd gotten lead poisoning the first time he pointed that at me. Id assume the officer was still pulling his shotgun out of the rack when that happened, or getting it up on target. I didnt watch anything but his hands when he started squaring up on me when the patrol car was pulling over.
The cop wasn't responsible for just his own life but for the lives and safety of all around such as in those stores. When that shotgun came up the issue was settled.
If that were true it would almost sound like he planned to be killed in a confrontation.
It’s been reported the guy had mental health issues so 1) why did his family let him carry the shotgun if they claim he was unstable? But I am sure they will take no blame for their part. 2) I think this may have been suicide by cop
Where was the social worker ?
From what I have been told, the Karen that swatted him knew him, and knew/should have known he was no real danger to anyone.
No small amount of the blame needs to rest on her
If the kid was pointing a shotgun at cops, who else was he pointing it at?
I'd not put a lot of blame on her just yet.
Only his father could call this shooting unjustified.
Since the guy clearly was armed they can not use the usual line of shooting an unarmed harmless dude so now it hinges on how quickly did they shoot him. IMHO not too quickly and only after 2 requests to drop the gun and when he was raising it. Not sure what else the cops could have done other than waiting for him to take the first shot like in an old fashioned duel?
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