Shooting @ Santa Fe TX high school

CBS is reporting that the firearms used were a shotgun and a .38 revolver (in addition to the various explosive devices that have been reported). I look for this one to be less hyped as it doesn't fit the "We only want to ban AR15's not Grand Dad's shotgun" narrative.

This is my prediction:

the Parkland shooter didn’t use “high capacity magazines.”

This kid didn’t use a “weapon of war military assault weapon.”

They are setting up the narrative for a full ban. Not just AR-47 ghost guns that fire 30 caliber clips in half a second, but all gun are bad mmmmmkay ban.

That Tickle Me Emo girl said it months ago: when they give us Ann inch, we’ll take a mile.

By election time they’re going to go full retard and propose something broad and all encompassing.
 
Foreign name
Shotgun
.38 revolver
Bisexual pride pin on his hat

Gonna be interesting to see how much coverage he gets after all that has been laid out.
 
Not to mention that hipster-ass pocket watch.
 
Even with standard 00 buck within an average size school room there isn't going to be enough spread to affect terminal effectiveness. Especially in a situation where you're likely to have a cluster of unarmored, undefended individuals. I hate to even say it because it sounds crass, but "fish in a barrel" comes to mind. 9 .33 caliber lead balls per trigger pull (assuming 2 3/4" 00 buck). I would imagine that a few of those 9 pellet patterns extended over a couple of individuals.

Today the owner of the business I work for was talking to a co-worker about this and the use of the shotgun came up. My boss says "Shotgun? Hhhmm, a shotgun doesn't usually kill anyone unless you aim it". I just kept my head down and didn't say a thing. And this came from a man who served in our military.

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Unless I am mistaken that's not a "Nazi" Iron Cross. That appears to be from World War I. The Iron Cross during the 2nd World War had a "swastika" on it. Could this be more expert research by a journalist?

When I was in junior high school it was called a surfer's cross, all the cool kids had one.

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The huge difference in this school shooting and others (and applies to other mass shootings) is the lack of a semi-auto weapon. Semi-auto is the capability they've always considered as unacceptable especially with high capacity mags. I'd really like to know what kind of shotgun it was and if it had removable mags, I heard 10 dead and 10 injured, kind of hard to do with 8 rounds in a tube and 6 in a cylinder.
 
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This is my prediction:

the Parkland shooter didn’t use “high capacity magazines.”

This kid didn’t use a “weapon of war military assault weapon.”

They are setting up the narrative for a full ban. Not just AR-47 ghost guns that fire 30 caliber clips in half a second, but all gun are bad mmmmmkay ban.

That Tickle Me Emo girl said it months ago: when they give us Ann inch, we’ll take a mile.

By election time they’re going to go full retard and propose something broad and all encompassing.
I hope they do, they would lose their asses.
 
A blonde girl and her mother were being interviewed and said she will not be going back to school ever. My kid, sometimes way wiser than his 17 yrs, says what’s gonna happen when she’s an adult in the real world and has to go into places where there is no locked doors, resource officer, Federal or state laws banning guns, etc? Is she gonna freak and not get a job? Stay locked up in her house and not go to the grocery store or such? What does she expect ... the police to escort her to places where she doesn’t feel safe? He then tells me that his high school teachers have been demanding that LEOs come to school after classes and patrol the teacher parking lot because they are scared someone is going to attack them. Our society is so wussified and becoming even more dependent on government ... local to fed ... for everything. Self reliance is not being taught to today’s generations ... Heaven help this country and world.
 
Yep. I agree. Especially the part about standing with a bunch of other people out in the open right after a shooting when no one knows if there are more shooters somewhere.

Allow me to expand on my post above. I've stated this many times on a few forums regarding mass shootings that involve innocent civilians being escorted out of a building(s) by the authorities after such an incident.

In my opinion, it's asinine for law enforcement to carry out procedures that group people together outside in the open after, or possibly during, an active shooter(s) scenario. It's a stupid move and eventually it will prove fatal for not only the civilians being herded out in the open, but also the law enforcement officers in control and actively participating in a bad procedure and a terrible policy.

As soon as the varsity team replaces the real JV team, aka school kids, and things really get real, unfortunately, a bad wake up call will present itself.
 
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The biggest thing I see that has changed and seems to mirror frequency of these types of things precisely is that our children are now smitten with all kinds of “mental issues” and are fed these by doctors and parents to “correct” these issues:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drug


Our behavior as youths was written off as, well, the behavior of youth. It seems nearly everyone of these events has a young person who has been prescribed these drugs. I think we as a society like to think we can fix behaviors with a pill. And some of these pills have horrific side effects. I believe there is a big link here. Just my opinion.


Winner, winner chicken dinner!!

Dr's prescribe a Rx for one thing then a side effect pops up and thus another Rx, another side effect, and so forth. Mixing certain scripts is VERY bad and in general is something that should be avoided at all whenever possible. I saw this first hand with my cousin who was 5 years my junior. By his teens he was on too many scripts and dependent on them to even barely function. Sadly, he took his own life about age 18.

I'm sure the FBI has the data, but I would dearly love to know what was in a lot of these shooters medicine cabinets and what Rx's they were actually on at the time of the shootings.

SSRI's are one class to be VERY careful of in young adults and kids.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor
 
Winner, winner chicken dinner!!

Dr's prescribe a Rx for one thing then a side effect pops up and thus another Rx, another side effect, and so forth. Mixing certain scripts is VERY bad and in general is something that should be avoided at all whenever possible. I saw this first hand with my cousin who was 5 years my junior. By his teens he was on too many scripts and dependent on them to even barely function. Sadly, he took his own life about age 18.

I'm sure the FBI has the data, but I would dearly love to know what was in a lot of these shooters medicine cabinets and what Rx's they were actually on at the time of the shootings.

SSRI's are one class to be VERY careful of in young adults and kids.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor

In other words: It's all about the money.
 
Today the owner of the business I work for was talking to a co-worker about this and the use of the shotgun came up. My boss says "Shotgun? Hhhmm, a shotgun doesn't usually kill anyone unless you aim it". I just kept my head down and didn't say a thing. And this came from a man who served in our military.

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Perhaps he was in supply?
 
In other words: It's all about the money.

Blame Big Pharma and Dr.'s all you want, they certainly deserve a sizable portion of the blame. However, that was not at all the point I was making, sorry.

That's not what I see as the primary issue or culprit. To me it's about people (Dr.'s & parent/patients) thinking they can solve emotional and or mental problems with just a Rx. A drug is only a treatment tool that should be selectively combined with other options like therapy, counseling, and close monitoring by Professionals and parents.

Today, often Rx's are handed out like candy with none or a minimum of the other components occurring. Little Johhny or Suzie still has issues so they add another Rx and things can roll downhill faster sometimes snowballing into something much worse than the original issue.
 
Lighting killed my modem and router earlier this evening, so I've been stuck with the old antenna tv. Kimmel just came on crying again at the start of his show. QUICK BURN THE CONSTITUTION!
 
Lighting killed my modem and router earlier this evening, so I've been stuck with the old antenna tv. Kimmel just came on crying again at the start of his show. QUICK BURN THE CONSTITUTION!
I can't figure out how anyone can take that DB even remotely seriously.
 
Blame Big Pharma and Dr.'s all you want, they certainly deserve a sizable portion of the blame. However, that was not at all the point I was making, sorry.

That's not what I see as the primary issue or culprit. To me it's about people (Dr.'s & parent/patients) thinking they can solve emotional and or mental problems with just a Rx. A drug is only a treatment tool that should be selectively combined with other options like therapy, counseling, and close monitoring by Professionals and parents.

Today, often Rx's are handed out like candy with none or a minimum of the other components occurring. Little Johhny or Suzie still has issues so they add another Rx and things can roll downhill faster sometimes snowballing into something much worse than the original issue.

I absolutely agree with your stance and I think it reinforces my post above. Parents, Educators, Pediatricians, etc...... are too quick to turn to the pill as a solution. However, big pharma and physicians are definitely in it for the money. It's human nature.

Everything in this world revolves around money. To think it doesn't is blind thinking in my opinion.
 
Revolver and Shotgun?

That fact (if it turns out to be true) will surely crush the hearts of many anti-2A'ers (moreso than the loss of life ever will).

Rifle, shotgun, bomb, dumptruck, knife.... all tools- not cause.
 
Lighting killed my modem and router earlier this evening, so I've been stuck with the old antenna tv. Kimmel just came on crying again at the start of his show. QUICK BURN THE CONSTITUTION!

Quick question that I don't know. In prior Socialist/communist societies how have the ruling class treated the artist? Are they made into mouth pieces of the cause and given free rein or more thought of as a danger to the movement?
 
While he may have chickened out on suicide, don't worry Texas will execute him. Heard that he pulled the fire alarm like in Parkland and waited outside. Remington 870 and .38 revolver where taken from his father. Prayers sent for the families of the slain. Another who doesn't fit the profile yet.

CD

CBS article said the fire alarm was actually pulled by someone else who was trying to alert the rest of the school that there was a shooting. But who really knows because the stuff that comes out in the first couple of days is usually best taken with a grain of salt.....


If someone else did pull the alarm they win the bonehead of the year award though. What do you do in response to a fire? Calmly evacuate into the hallways.

What do you do in response to an active shooter? Not that ^
 
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Quick question that I don't know. In prior Socialist/communist societies how have the ruling class treated the artist? Are they made into mouth pieces of the cause and given free rein or more thought of as a danger to the movement?

I may be totally wrong, if so please correct me, but in the Soviet Union a lot of the artists were not treated well because they might cause dissent or another idea that doesnt go along with what the ruler wants.
I just feel like I remember something about many artists being suppressed during the USSR's reign.
Not to say they ALL were, but it was pretty censored.

Hell, look at Russia today, Pussy Riot, an all girl..."band" is heavily censored and targeted by the government for their anti-Soviet/anti-Putin views.
 
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Seems like the root cause is not only parents, not at all Pharma, but the failure to recognize there are crazy and bad people in the world, and we need to re-open places to house them. Turning them loose on the street in the guise of benevolence is foolish.

Dorthea Dix would be a good start.
 
Seems like the root cause is not only parents, not at all Pharma, but the failure to recognize there are crazy and bad people in the world, and we need to re-open places to house them. Turning them loose on the street in the guise of benevolence is foolish.

Dorthea Dix would be a good start.


as long as no one refers to them as "animals" ......they are still human beings!!!!!
 
A blonde girl and her mother were being interviewed and said she will not be going back to school ever. My kid, sometimes way wiser than his 17 yrs, says what’s gonna happen when she’s an adult in the real world and has to go into places where there is no locked doors, resource officer, Federal or state laws banning guns, etc? Is she gonna freak and not get a job? Stay locked up in her house and not go to the grocery store or such? What does she expect ... the police to escort her to places where she doesn’t feel safe? He then tells me that his high school teachers have been demanding that LEOs come to school after classes and patrol the teacher parking lot because they are scared someone is going to attack them. Our society is so wussified and becoming even more dependent on government ... local to fed ... for everything. Self reliance is not being taught to today’s generations ... Heaven help this country and world.
I actually agree with the teachers on this one. They are prevented from carrying on school property so the .gov has total responsibility for their safety. Hell I demand that they come walk me to my car every time I'm prevented from carrying in a government building. Do I expect them too? No, but they logically should.
 
The suspect was then interviewed and "he gave a statement admitting to shooting multiple people inside” the high school “with the intent on killing people,” the document said. Pagourtzis also said "he did not shoot students he did like so he could have his story told,” according to the document.

Here's a novel idea...don't tell his story. It seems so obvious to most of us, and the medical professionals that are analyzing all this crap. But, MSM can't help themselves.
 
I may be totally wrong, if so please correct me, but in the Soviet Union a lot of the artists were not treated well because they might cause dissent or another idea that doesnt go along with what the ruler wants.
I just feel like I remember something about many artists being suppressed during the USSR's reign.
Not to say they ALL were, but it was pretty censored.

Hell, look at Russia today, Pussy Riot, an all girl..."band" is heavily censored and targeted by the government for their anti-Soviet/anti-Putin views.

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I think Kimmel and Corbet would be dead by now if they were in another country.
 
Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I think Kimmel and Corbet would be dead by now if they were in another country.

Depends on the country, yes.
But that's what makes this one so dang good,is that we arent executing folks because they arent going along with what the ruling party says.
They arent getting shipped off to labor camps/gulags etc
Thats a good thing.
No matter if you agree with the people, its a good thing they arent being treated that way. Otherwise we'll be on the chopping block when the pendulum swings the other way.
 
Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I think Kimmel and Corbet would be dead by now if they were in another country.
Depends on the country, yes.
But that's what makes this one so dang good,is that we arent executing folks because they arent going along with what the ruling party says.
They arent getting shipped off to labor camps/gulags etc
Thats a good thing.
No matter if you agree with the people, its a good thing they arent being treated that way. Otherwise we'll be on the chopping block when the pendulum swings the other way.

Yup, in a country with true uniparty rule you would be arrested and jailed for disagreeing with the party.

Unfortunately as we can begin to see across the pond, in countries with objectively dual or even multiparty systems the steady march leftward is creating circumstances where you can be jailed or fined for stating the obvious, if the obvious happens to offend someone.

I give it 20 years here before that's a solid reality. Less should efforts to protect the 2A fail.
 
I disagree.
Im sure people have thought that same thing for the past 200 years, that we were on the brink of collapse etc.

As Turner said, we're rugged individualists.
We dont, as a whole, just feed into thing and we prevail. Oh, do we prevail through tough times.
 
Quick question that I don't know. In prior Socialist/communist societies how have the ruling class treated the artist? Are they made into mouth pieces of the cause and given free rein or more thought of as a danger to the movement?
Artist working towards socialist propaganda = good. Artist working on their own agenda = not in line with the state. Our very own Black Mountain housed a few notable Commie era Eastern Bloc/Russian artists that fled there for making work that didn't advance the social cause.
 
Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. I think Kimmel and Corbet would be dead by now if they were in another country.
In a country founded on the basis of comedy, they would be dead for failing as comedians. Kimmel is a blubbering fool, and Corbet is only surpassed by Stewart as somebody that should be placed in a work camp. I think Bill Hicks is likely one of the only funny openly liberal comedians that ever existed.
 
I can't figure out how anyone can take that DB even remotely seriously.

Am I the only person that would rather go to sleep than stay up and watch late night TV? I haven't watched any of it sinve Letterman in the mid 80's. They used to be entertainers, not political commentators.
 
While he may have chickened out on suicide, don't worry Texas will execute him. Heard that he pulled the fire alarm like in Parkland and waited outside. Remington 870 and .38 revolver where taken from his father. Prayers sent for the families of the slain. Another who doesn't fit the profile yet.

CD

Oh, he fits the profile all right. Teen loser whose mind was warped by social justics, tranny, bi-sexual, cultural Marxism crap. Possibly mix in some drugs and blue balls and the kid was going to act out somehow. Society can't mess with children's mind and expect no reprecussions.
 
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