Skeletonized AR parts are a fad?

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Or are they the greatest thing ever?

I've kinda caught the lightweight bug. I've always considered skeletonized parts to be a gimmick but now I'm looking a little closer at them.
There are some F1 Firearms parts that look good but I wonder how functional they really are. I wonder how they do when the parts get dirty.
Also, what happens when you use a silencer? Does it spew carbon and oil over everything?

Do you use these type of parts? Do you like them?
 
Before you go this way....weigh some first. We did here. In some cases the optic you use saves more weight. I was once told by a person we would all agree is legit.....I have been in many Spec Op training situations, I have Never seen Any platform with more Holes in it than it came with.
 
Yeah, check weights closely.
A lot of the stuff from F1 is not that light.

I believe and Aero slick side weighs less than the F1 upper, for example. The billet stuff often has a thicker wall.

F1 stuff is high quality. Have seen many used and used well.
 
bigfelipe said:
Depends on what you want it for. Competition? Sure. Bad guys, boogaloo, or even hunting in the field? I don't want a rifle that looks like Swiss cheese that's prone to getting filled up with whatever debris is around.
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Good point. It would be fine for a range toy but not much else.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Before you go this way....weigh some first. We did here. In some cases the optic you use saves more weight. I was once told by a person we would all agree is legit.....I have been in many Spec Op training situations, I have Never seen Any platform with more Holes in it than it came with.
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I'm using a P. A. Cyclops for the optic it's not the lightest out there. More to think about.
 
NKD said:
Yeah, check weights closely.
A lot of the stuff from F1 is not that light.

I believe and Aero slick side weighs less than the F1 upper, for example. The billet stuff often has a thicker wall.

F1 stuff is high quality. Have seen many used and used well.
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Good info, thanks. I also wonder what happens when you drop it or bang it around. How well does it stand up?
 
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jimmyheadgear said:
Good info, thanks. I also wonder what happens when you drop it or bang it around. How well does it stand up?
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They are very strong products and I doubt you could break one even trying.
I’ve seen many get tossed around and ran hard.
3gun is tough on guns. They get beat up, tossed in barrels and on tables, and whatnot.

@TSConver and his wife both have run custom rifles with their receivers/rails them for several years. I think some dirty run and gun too.
 
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I like the way the skeletonized ARs look, but have never really been able to get over the price. That, and the biggest point of failure (from what I can tell) is when stuff gets into the action. We have all taken part of, or at least watched people argue about the need of a dust cover even. So all I can really see with all of the "skeletonized" stuff is just more places for stuff to get into and mess up the works. At BigFilipe said, its great if you want a competition gun or a range gun, but for a "fighting" gun, I don't see it worth while to have multiple access points for crap to get into.
 
Not to sound snarky, but it really should be apparent just by looking at it that it is a competition/sporty item and not any kind of military or self defense gun.
 
The skeletonized AR boggles my mind.......

Eugene Stoner didn't design it as a minimalist weapon, it runs inherently DIRTY, and some self proclaimed Genius decides to remove metal from EVERYWHERE to reduce an already light weight weapons footprint, never mind opening the mechanism up to dust, dirt, and whatever else to contaminate it, and by lightweight I mean the original design parameters that can be tweaked with modern technology, like flat top uppers, composite hand guards, and other "new" additions to the parts catalog.
A weapon with AR's eccentricities doesn't need what the skeletonization of its receivers will add to them.
IMHO, leave well enough alone
 
USMC6094 said:
The skeletonized AR boggles my mind.......

Eugene Stoner didn't design it as a minimalist weapon, it runs inherently DIRTY, and some self proclaimed Genius decides to remove metal from EVERYWHERE to reduce an already light weight weapons footprint, never mind opening the mechanism up to dust, dirt, and whatever else to contaminate it, and by lightweight I mean the original design parameters that can be tweaked with modern technology, like flat top uppers, composite hand guards, and other "new" additions to the parts catalog.
A weapon with AR's eccentricities doesn't need what the skeletonization of its receivers will add to them.
IMHO, leave well enough alone
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It's probably not very mind boggling if you go to a 3gun match and see Jerry Miculek, for example, using F1 products. Which he has. Hard to question his experience, ability, and knowledge.

Go to a competition sometime. They cut holes in race guns and whatnot. It's downright crazy.
 
From what I understand, F1 doesn't claim to be any lighter. Their whole premise is that the firearm will actually run cleaner then a normal gun, because the blowback carbon is allowed to escape into the air, and not trapped in the gun. I also saw a video recently where they put a skeletonized gun into a sand pit, and shook out the sand and fired without issue. I'll see if I can dig it up.
 
NKD said:
It's probably not very mind boggling if you go to a 3gun match and see Jerry Miculek, for example, using F1 products. Which he has. Hard to question his experience, ability, and knowledge.

Go to a competition sometime. They cut holes in race guns and whatnot. It's downright crazy.
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Been to many a three gun match, skeletonized ARs still dont trip my trigger, to each his own.........
 
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