Slide Lock Reload

Yep, you see a ton of slide lock reloads there due to the magazine size restrictions.





I generally see it done with Sig 320s, P series Sigs, M&Ps, Glocks, CZs, etc. In fact, its the most common reload I see done.





Not really. You are still going to be slightly faster on the first shot post reload with whichever method gets the slide forward faster. This happens since it gives you time to concentrate on reacquiring focus on the target and not rebuilding grip, depressing the slide stop, etc

In IDPA, it’s not mag capacity (uspsa is 10 for production) it’s that you can’t drop a mag with rounds in it. So people run them dry more often.

I’d have to test with a timer. I think you are going to see that given the same practice, the speed will be nearly the same.
That’s for the people who can use the strong hand thumb release.
Everyone, on every gun, can use the weak hand.
 
In IDPA, it’s not mag capacity (uspsa is 10 for production) it’s that you can’t drop a mag with rounds in it. So people run them dry more often.

Capacity (10 for ESP and SSP, 8 for CDP. etc) and stage design do play a part along with the emphasis on mag retention/no rounds on the ground

I think you are going to see that given the same practice, the speed will be nearly the same.

On average you are looking at around .2 second difference between each method (say 1 second for dominant hand, 1.2 for support hand, 1.4 for racking the slide).
 
Capacity (10 for ESP and SSP, 8 for CDP. etc) and stage design do play a part along with the emphasis on mag retention/no rounds on the ground

On average you are looking at around .2 second difference between each method (say 1 second for dominant hand, 1.2 for support hand, 1.4 for racking the slide).

.2 for everybody? Ok.

To each their own!
 
.2 for everybody? Ok.

To each their own!

95% of statistics is completely made up, especially by people who like to throw people into doorways.
 
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Clearly, the economy of motion is less.
Economy of motion is speed. You just pressed the mag release, your right thumb is closer to the slide release throughout the whole process (unless you are using some Euro mag pistol for some reason) up until you have finished inserting the magazine and move your support hand to the grip. If you have a smurf hand the gun will most likely already be twisted to reach the mag release so reaching the slide release shouldn't be an issue. If you have proper slide release (1911s come stock with one) I don't see why it would be difficult to release the slide. I agree with your earlier comment that some slide stops aren't ideal to use as releases...this is an unfortunate side effect of tactical guru fads.

But my point is that from a time perspective, you still have to press the gun out. Both thumbs are right there as you are doing so.
Who says you "have to" press the gun out?

Sometimes your left hand will be needed for something else or it may not work at all.

So, the time you save is just while you are pressing the gun out, thereby really not saving you any time.
Is this "all the time" or "on average"?
 
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Economy of motion is speed. You just pressed the mag release, your right thumb is closer to the slide release throughout the whole process (unless you are using some Euro mag pistol for some reason) up until you have finished inserting the magazine and move your support hand to the grip. If you have a smurf hand the gun will most likely already be twisted to reach the mag release so reaching the slide release shouldn't be an issue. If you have proper slide release (1911s come stock with one) I don't see why it would be difficult to release the slide. I agree with your earlier comment that some slide stops aren't ideal to use as releases...this is an unfortunate side effect of tactical guru fads.

Who says you "have to" press the gun out?

Sometimes your left hand will be needed for something else or it may not work at all.

Is this "all the time" or "on average"?

So you disagree with the above that 1911s should use the weak hand to drop the slide release?
You think people should use the strong hand for slide release on a 1911 style pistol?

Interesting. If it works for you I say that’s precisely what you should do.

To your second point about having no use of your left hand: how are you going to perform a reload? Can you show us how to do it? I would like to learn that.
I only shoot competition and don’t practice at all for combat, lol. If my left hand is incapacitated, I’ll be going home early. My guns are nearly impossible to do a strong hand slide release with. You’d have to have a freakishly long and multi jointed thumb. So I’d sure like you to show me how to do it.

I have no argument or opinion on single handed reloads. I’ll have to defer to your expertise.

My posts are in the competition context only, which I thought I was clear on.

That said, I completely agree you should be training and doing whatever you feel is best. I am not saying what is best or making a list of what is best or fastest. Just playing devils advocate.

But I will point out that in the video above we have a famous Delta operator and world renown trainer as well as a master shooter who do it the same way I do.
 
Economy of motion is speed. You just pressed the mag release, your right thumb is closer to the slide release throughout the whole process (unless you are using some Euro mag pistol for some reason) up until you have finished inserting the magazine and move your support hand to the grip. If you have a smurf hand the gun will most likely already be twisted to reach the mag release so reaching the slide release shouldn't be an issue. If you have proper slide release (1911s come stock with one) I don't see why it would be difficult to release the slide. I agree with your earlier comment that some slide stops aren't ideal to use as releases...this is an unfortunate side effect of tactical guru fads.

Who says you "have to" press the gun out?

Sometimes your left hand will be needed for something else or it may not work at all.

Is this "all the time" or "on average"?

I forgot to address your first point:
My weak hand thumb actually rides over the slide release on my gun, while my strong hand thumb can’t reach it. So actually my weak hand thumb is right there.

Well, it is when I’m not fighting and doing one hand reloads!
 
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If you have proper slide release (1911s come stock with one) I don't see why it would be difficult to release the slide.

No disrespect intended, but you must have some Shrek sized hands. I wear sized "Large" gloves, and am a large human, and it is unnatural to release the slide on a 1911 on the clock with my strong hand.

Although I do it routinely on empty at the end of a stage before dropping the hammer and reholstering.
 
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No disrespect intended, but you must have some Shrek sized hands. I wear sized "Large" gloves, and am a large human, and it is unnatural to release the slide on a 1911 on the clock with my strong hand.

Although I do it routinely on empty at the end of the stage before dropping the hammer and reholstering.

Is it one of those funny Euro 1911’s???

Funnily, both of my main guns are Euro guns haha!

Edit: maybe mine are “tactical guru gunz”.
 
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But I will point out that in the video above we have a famous Delta operator and world renown trainer as well as a master shooter who do it the same way I do.

Larry will tell you that the support hand thumb isn’t the fastest method. He’d further tell you many of the same points I’ve already listed about each method.
 
So you disagree with the above that 1911s should use the weak hand to drop the slide release?
You think people should use the strong hand for slide release on a 1911 style pistol?

I think people should do whatever they want to do. But there is nothing about a properly built 1911 that makes it impossible to use the slide release as intended.

To your second point about having no use of your left hand: how are you going to perform a reload? Can you show us how to do it? I would like to learn that.
I only shoot competition and don’t practice at all for combat, lol. If my left hand is incapacitated, I’ll be going home early. My guns are nearly impossible to do a strong hand slide release with. You’d have to have a freakishly long and multi jointed thumb. So I’d sure like you to show me how to do it.
I have no argument or opinion on single handed reloads. I’ll have to defer to your expertise.
You can find plenty of videos on youtube.

I have seen 5 foot tall 100 lb women do slide release/one handed reloads...they didn't have freakish multi jointed long thumbs.

My posts are in the competition context only, which I thought I was clear on.
Yeah, I didn't limit myself in such a manner. The combat stuff might be obvious. I have been in several competitions where it saved time shooting with the gun not fully extended and or one handed after a reload.

But I will point out that in the video above we have a famous Delta operator and world renown trainer as well as a master shooter who do it the same way I do.
There are others equally qualified that advocate overhand and slide release methods. It doesn't bother me if you feel better copying Larry V.
 
No disrespect intended, but you must have some Shrek sized hands. I wear sized "Large" gloves, and am a large human, and it is unnatural to release the slide on a 1911 on the clock with my strong hand.

Although I do it routinely on empty at the end of a stage before dropping the hammer and reholstering.
None taken. I wear a large/XL glove depending on brand but I don't have freakish double joint fingers. I have to twist the gun some to drop the mag and release the slide, but has never seemed unnatural or difficult to do except for the rare gun with a extra power recoil spring (mostly 22-24 lb 10mms) or some that seemed to have too much angle on the slide stop/notch. Definitely faster for me and my left hand is free to do other things. Overhand and weak thumb release are backup methods for me personally.
 
I forgot to address your first point:
My weak hand thumb actually rides over the slide release on my gun, while my strong hand thumb can’t reach it. So actually my weak hand thumb is right there.

Well, it is when I’m not fighting and doing one hand reloads!
How does that address my first point? Where is your weak hand thumb when you are retrieving the magazine that you plan to reload with? Is it still right there riding on the slide release?
 
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How does that address my first point? Where is your weak hand thumb when you are retrieving the magazine that you plan to reload with? Is it still right there riding on the slide release?

I only do single handed strong hand reloads.

What competitions are you shooting?
I think people should do whatever they want to do. But there is nothing about a properly built 1911 that makes it impossible to use the slide release as intended.

You can find plenty of videos on youtube.

I have seen 5 foot tall 100 lb women do slide release/one handed reloads...they didn't have freakish multi jointed long thumbs.

Yeah, I didn't limit myself in such a manner. The combat stuff might be obvious. I have been in several competitions where it saved time shooting with the gun not fully extended and or one handed after a reload.

There are others equally qualified that advocate overhand and slide release methods. It doesn't bother me if you feel better copying Larry V.

I’m gonna stop “copying Vickers” (first time I ever saw video was yours I think) and start copy you. I can tell you’re a top pro by your first post.
 
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Larry will tell you that the support hand thumb isn’t the fastest method. He’d further tell you many of the same points I’ve already listed about each method.

He would tell you it’s faster for some people with some guns. But he would tell you everyone could do a weak hand slide release with every gun that has one.

I’ve seen all his videos too bro.
 
I only do single handed strong hand reloads.

What competitions are you shooting?


I’m gonna stop “copying Vickers” (first time I ever saw video was his these) and start copy you. I can tell you’re a top pro by your first post.

USPSA is what I was referring to. So are you now going to explain how you reload without ever taking your weak hand thumb off the slide release or are we going to pretend you never said that?
 
USPSA is what I was referring to. So are you now going to explain how you reload without ever taking your weak hand thumb off the slide release or are we going to pretend you never said that?

Somebody missed the joke.
 
USPSA is what I was referring to. So are you now going to explain how you reload without ever taking your weak hand thumb off the slide release or are we going to pretend you never said that?

Oh and I never said that I reload without ever taking my weak hand off the gun. The very notion is beyond retarded.
I insert mag with left hand and keep shooting.
I shoot limited major in USPSA. Running the gun dry is a no no.
If I do fail in some way (happens a lot because I’m average USPSA major) I use my weak hand thumb because AFTER I INSERT MAGAZINE AS IT IS LITERALLY LAYING ON TOP OF SLIDE RELEASE.

Sorry about caps but I thought it would help you read and comprehend better.
 
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He would tell you it’s faster for some people with some guns. But he would tell you everyone could do a weak hand slide release with every gun that has one.

I’ve seen all his videos too bro.


If you've seen all of his videos then you've seen more than I have bro.

You seem to be intentionally missing the overall point. With all things being equal (aka you have all your fingers and toes, can count to 10, can access all the controls), dominant hand thumb release is the fastest method, support hand thumb is second fastest, and racking the slide is third fastest.
 
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I shoot USPSA, I'm not good or credentialed, I use my strong hand thumb, always have, I think the learning curve to use my weak/support hand would be steep. On 1911s I think I generally flip the gun to hit the mag release and sweep the slide release before/while flipping the gun back. On Glocks I had to fix my grip to not ride the slide release with strong thumb, obvious choice is obvious, M&P is right under thumb also. The Glocks auto forward 50% of the time, the M&P 90+%, and my CZ clone P120 seems to be up around 70% of the time, none of them require any thought to hit when they need it. I do try to avoid slide lock reloads in matches.
 
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If you've seen all of his videos then you've seen more than I have bro.

You seem to be intentionally missing the overall point. With all things being equal (aka you have all your fingers and toes, can count to 10, can access all the controls), dominant hand thumb release is the fastest method, support hand thumb is second fastest, and racking the slide is third fastest.

It's funny, because I feel you are intentionally missing mine.

All things being equal, you have two hands and a gun with a slide lock: strong hand will be faster for some people and some guns.

Fieldgrade, who is 6'-5" tall and size large glove (faaaar beyond average) can't do it on a 1911, which means he couldn't do it on 90% Limited guns, Open guns, Single stack guns, and a pretty significant percentage of production guns. So there goes the average. Some, like Beef15 and yourself, apparently can do it. Great! Keep it up!

Some people, with some guns, will not be able to perform a reload that way ever. Period full stop.

So, all things are NOT EQUAL, and that is my point. Everyone is not average. Some people have Glocks, and some people have Tangfoglios. Some people have big hands and some do not. People should practice it with a timer and find out what is best for them. What works for you may not work for them.

Sorry to be a bulldog about this, but this just seems perfectly reasonable to me.
 
I should clarify why I don't use strong hand slide release on a 1911.

I can release the slide on a 1911 with my strong hand thumb, BUT, like one or two others have mentioned, it's much easier to accomplish when the pistol is already "canted" to your support side immediately after dropping the empty mag, and loading a fresh mag.

**Here's the question** How comfortable are you releasing that slide and chambering that round when the pistol is very likely NOT pointed downrange, but very possibly, if not likely, pointed over the berm on your support side at about 10 o'clock for the right handed shooters?

That's what's happening on these fast reloads using strong hand slide release, and why I don't use my strong thumb to release the slide on a 1911 shooting on the clock.
 
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**Here's the question** How comfortable are you releasing that slide and chambering that round when the pistol is very likely NOT pointed downrange, but very possibly, if not likely, pointed over the berm on your support side at about 10 o'clock for the right handed shooters?
The same level of comfort I feel if I point the gun over the berm any other time, finger off the trigger not really concerned. Yes it could malfunction, but then a mechanical failure could happen during a "speed reload" and send one over too.

I've seen a one maybe two go over the berm and one caught by it during reloads, common to all: finger in trigger guard. SO MANY people don't realize they do it, most don't do it all the time, lots will argue adamantly they don't when told, RO/SO has to be in the right place at the right time to see it so it often goes uncalled.

I'd have to live fire to say for sure where my 1911 is pointed when the slide slams home, dry fire appears to indicate it's very near the next target for a stationary slide lock reload.
 
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I'm no expert, but this method causes a lot of problems on the little guns. Between a G26, Shield, G43, Ruger LC9, Kahr P9, and Kahr PM9, I have found overland/slingshot reloads work best. Don't ask me why, I don't know why...but once I go bigger like a Glock 19 size...problems go away.
Anything small...slingshot for me. Of course, with the small mags, every mag change is a crap shoot.

Agreed; I’ve had slide lock releases hang up the slide when the round doesn’t strip and seat properly (124gr GDHP’s) but it doesn’t happen when sling shotting
 
It's funny, because I feel you are intentionally missing mine.

All things being equal, you have two hands and a gun with a slide lock: strong hand will be faster for some people and some guns.

Fieldgrade, who is 6'-5" tall and size large glove (faaaar beyond average) can't do it on a 1911, which means he couldn't do it on 90% Limited guns, Open guns, Single stack guns, and a pretty significant percentage of production guns. So there goes the average. Some, like Beef15 and yourself, apparently can do it. Great! Keep it up!

Some people, with some guns, will not be able to perform a reload that way ever. Period full stop.

So, all things are NOT EQUAL, and that is my point. Everyone is not average. Some people have Glocks, and some people have Tangfoglios. Some people have big hands and some do not. People should practice it with a timer and find out what is best for them. What works for you may not work for them.

Sorry to be a bulldog about this, but this just seems perfectly reasonable to me.

So not everybody is average or in the majority? Genius!! Those people that came up with those words should have thought of that.
 
The same level of comfort I feel if I point the gun over the berm any other time, finger off the trigger not really concerned. Yes it could malfunction, but then a mechanical failure could happen during a "speed reload" and send one over too.

I've seen a one maybe two go over the berm and one caught by it during reloads, common to all: finger in trigger guard. SO MANY people don't realize they do it, most don't do it all the time, lots will argue adamantly they don't when told, RO/SO has to be in the right place at the right time to see it so it often goes uncalled.

I'd have to live fire to say for sure where my 1911 is pointed when the slide slams home, dry fire appears to indicate it's very near the next target for a stationary slide lock reload.
Very true. One step further, hammer follow.
 
So not everybody is average or in the majority? Genius!! Those people that came up with those words should have thought of that.

You've added so much valuable insight to this conversation. Thank you.
 
It's funny, because I feel you are intentionally missing mine.



I get your point just fine. You want to continue to focus on your performance, thinking that it is the standard, while ignoring everything that proves otherwise. Its much akin to a guy that says "Indexing a new mag with your index finger on the front of the mag doesnt work for me because I dont have an index finger". Theres a reason that my initial, and subsequent, posts has the terms "generally" and "overall" in them. Also there's a list of influencing factors thats present.

You say that you'd have to see the results on a shot timer to believe it....I've been seeing it on timers across a spectrum of shooters with various guns for close to 15 years. You say that its rare in matches, yet I see it at every match that I'm at. You point to what is shown in a video but when its said that your cited source in that video would say the same things that I am, you try to spin to another point. So keep on using your support thumb if you want to; there's nothing wrong with it (as pointed out in my initial post).
 
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I get your point just fine. You want to continue to focus on your performance, thinking that it is the standard, while ignoring everything that proves otherwise. Its much akin to a guy that says "Indexing a new mag with your index finger on the front of the mag doesnt work for me because I dont have an index finger". Theres a reason that my initial, and subsequent, posts has the terms "generally" and "overall" in them. Also there's a list of influencing factors thats present.

NO. It is not at all like saying that. It is like saying this:

"Some people, with some guns, will not be able to perform a reload that way ever. Period full stop.
So, all things are NOT EQUAL, and that is my point. Everyone is not average. Some people have Glocks, and some people have Tangfoglios. Some people have big hands and some do not. People should practice it with a timer and find out what is best for them. What works for you may not work for them. "

Which is what I said. I've said it over and over, and you seem to just refuse to hear it. Quit trying to put words in my mouth.


You say that you'd have to see the results on a shot timer to believe it....I've been seeing it on timers across a spectrum of shooters with various guns for close to 15 years. You say that its rare in matches, yet I see it at every match that I'm at. You point to what is shown in a video but when its said that your cited source in that video would say the same things that I am, you try to spin to another point. So keep on using your support thumb if you want to; there's nothing wrong with it (as pointed out in my initial post).

I'll give you one thing: saying it is rare in matches is a stretch. But one thing is for damn sure: everybody doesn't do it youR way and everybody on average doesn't save 2/10ths. The very notion is ridiculous. Do many people save 2/10ths? Maybe. But I am not going to take your word for it. I need proof. Sorry if that offends your sense of authority.

"Average" seems to be a word you fellas are sticking to. It has meaning and means the average of all shooters and all guns. As pointed out, to use Feilgrade as an example again: he's above average on size. Many guns he can not do that method with. So, imagine how many people smaller than him and having smaller hands can't do it with a PLETHORA of guns. That destroys your "average" gain 2/10ths BS. Because they can not achieve it in any time. So, with that method, "average" is between zero and NEVER.

Anybody with a slide stop and a left hand can do the weak hand method. EVERYONE. Thereby, by "average" it is certainly faster. Basic math here fella.
 
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Fieldgrade has already clarified that he can use the slide release...he was uncomfortable about the direction of the muzzle...which makes MUCH more sense. Two separate issues.

Anybody with a slide stop and a left hand can do the weak hand method. EVERYONE. Thereby, by "average" it is certainly faster. Basic math here fella.

Do you specify only those with left hands because including those without would destroy your basic math? You said average includes "everyone."

 
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NO. It is not at all like saying that. It is like saying this:

"Some people, with some guns, will not be able to perform a reload that way ever. Period full stop.
So, all things are NOT EQUAL, and that is my point. Everyone is not average. Some people have Glocks, and some people have Tangfoglios. Some people have big hands and some do not. People should practice it with a timer and find out what is best for them. What works for you may not work for them. "

Which is what I said. I've said it over and over, and you seem to just refuse to hear it. Quit trying to put words in my mouth.


I'm not refusing to hear it; I'm simply pointing out that youre whacking away at a strawman.




I'll give you one thing: saying it is rare in matches is a stretch. But one thing is for damn sure: everybody doesn't do it youR way and everybody on average doesn't save 2/10ths. The very notion is ridiculous. Do many people save 2/10ths? Maybe. But I am not going to take your word for it. I need proof. Sorry if that offends your sense of authority.


I dont have a sense of authority and certainly arent offended at anything. You have a tendency to make over the top claims and cant seem to handle it when multiple people and sources point out that they are flawed. And talking about putting words in people's mouths; when have I said that everyone does a reload my way?


So if you need more proof go round up some shooters and put them on the clock. Or go cruise through some post at Enos. Or watch some youtube videos on the topic. They are all going to point out the same thing


"Average" seems to be a word you fellas are sticking to.

Indeed we are because "average" is the standard for comparison in cases such as these. You dont look at the anomaly and hold it up as the best because 1 in 300 (thats just a random number, so you dont have to worry about trying to refute it) does it that way. Average, generally, typically, etc are also being used since it acknowledges that some people may be faster with another method
 
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Fieldgrade has already clarified that he can use the slide release...he was uncomfortable about the direction of the muzzle...which makes MUCH more sense. Two separate issues.

Here's what Fieldgrade said. Your trolling skills suck, likely as much as your shooting haha!

"No disrespect intended, but you must have some Shrek sized hands. I wear sized "Large" gloves, and am a large human, and it is unnatural to release the slide on a 1911 on the clock with my strong hand.

Although I do it routinely on empty at the end of a stage before dropping the hammer and reholstering."

Do you specify only those with left hands because including those without would destroy your basic math? You said average includes "everyone."



No I did not specify. And YES that guy is included in the average. As well as all those that can't reach a slide stop with the strong hand.

Here's the quote again because you can't read well:
"It has meaning and means the average of all shooters and all guns."
 
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Indeed we are because "average" is the standard for comparison in cases such as these. You dont look at the anomaly and hold it up as the best because 1 in 300 (thats just a random number, so you dont have to worry about trying to refute it) does it that way. Average, generally, typically, etc are also being used since it acknowledges that some people may be faster with another method

Don't see anything in the post you quoted that is a "strawman". But it's interesting you didn't refute any of it. Just called it a strawman.


I dont have a sense of authority and certainly arent offended at anything. You have a tendency to make over the top claims and cant seem to handle it when multiple people and sources point out that they are flawed. And talking about putting words in people's mouths; when have I said that everyone does a reload my way?

I am glad you are not offended. It really is not my intent to offend you.

As to feeling a sense of authority on the subject, you just finished talking about your 15 years as a authority on the subject.

You did not say everyone does it your way, my bad. But you did say this:

"On average you are looking at around .2 second difference between each method (say 1 second for dominant hand, 1.2 for support hand, 1.4 for racking the slide)."

I haven't seen a single "source" to back this up in any way. I agree some have said it is faster for them. I agree and have agreed it is faster for SOME this whole thread multiple times. I will also bet the farm they couldn't do it with my guns. And, I am willing to prove it if anyone wants to try.

So if you need more proof go round up some shooters and put them on the clock. Or go cruise through some post at Enos. Or watch some youtube videos on the topic. They are all going to point out the same thing

Do you think I just started shooting yesterday or something? Good Lord.

Indeed we are because "average" is the standard for comparison in cases such as these. You dont look at the anomaly and hold it up as the best because 1 in 300 (thats just a random number, so you dont have to worry about trying to refute it) does it that way. Average, generally, typically, etc are also being used since it acknowledges that some people may be faster with another method

The most telling thing about this is the information you snipped out and have no argument for. Because it defines what the "average" is that you keep talking about.

YOU are the one that came in making claims, not me. I am just arguing these claims. And, the reason why is because practicing with a timer, and shooting matches, has taught me that many notion I had about what was best or fastest were incorrect.

I respect you have an opinion and that you feel it is backed up by experience. You've convinced me that more people do this than I thought. Thanks. I would do this if my guns/hands allowed it. BUT they do not, and do not for many many people.
 
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Anybody with a slide stop and a left hand can do the weak hand method. EVERYONE. Thereby, by "average" it is certainly faster. Basic math here fella.
Here's what Fieldgrade said. Your trolling skills suck, likely as much as your shooting haha!

"No disrespect intended, but you must have some Shrek sized hands. I wear sized "Large" gloves, and am a large human, and it is unnatural to release the slide on a 1911 on the clock with my strong hand.

Although I do it routinely on empty at the end of a stage before dropping the hammer and reholstering."



No I did not specify. And YES that guy is included in the average. As well as all those that can't reach a slide stop with the strong hand.

Here's the quote again because you can't read well:
"It has meaning and means the average of all shooters and all guns."
You did specify because I quoted the words where you specified.

He said "it is unnatural" he didn't say he couldn't use/reach it...read the actual words you just quoted. Also, "Read" further into the thread...where he clarifies the muzzle position concern.
 
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He said "it is unnatural" he didn't say he couldn't use/reach it...read the actual words you just quoted. Also, "Read" further into the thread...where he clarifies the muzzle position concern.

I am plenty relaxed...being the a-hole is all you.

So you are disputing Ncpatrolar's opinion here:

"hand/finger size - dont move the gun or your hand just to get in position to depress the slide stop
repeat-ability/consistency - can you do it every time you reload
which gun are you using - as mentioned above, certain guns are set up for certain methods better than others (Sigs better for dominant hand thumb, 1911s better for support hand)"

You think he's wrong and everyone should use their weak hand on a 1911? Wow. Surprised you disagree with him as you seemed to just come in here to back him up?

So I would say Fieldgrade is doing what he is doing because he feels more comfortable and doesn't have to reposition his grip or move the gun in his hand, but he would have to respond to that. I am not going to speak for him. Unloading and showing clear is of course different and anybody who claims to shoot USPSA would know this well.
 
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The same level of comfort I feel if I point the gun over the berm any other time, finger off the trigger not really concerned. Yes it could malfunction, but then a mechanical failure could happen during a "speed reload" and send one over too.

I've seen a one maybe two go over the berm and one caught by it during reloads, common to all: finger in trigger guard. SO MANY people don't realize they do it, most don't do it all the time, lots will argue adamantly they don't when told, RO/SO has to be in the right place at the right time to see it so it often goes uncalled.

I'd have to live fire to say for sure where my 1911 is pointed when the slide slams home, dry fire appears to indicate it's very near the next target for a stationary slide lock reload.
I'm paranoid about it because I'm a guilty party for trying to reload faster than I was capable of when I was new to shooting 1911's on the clock, and thought I had put one over the berm. Thankfully I had put it in the berm, and I'm pretty sure my booger picker was in the trigger guard. Or when I slammed the mag in I actually pushed the gun to my trigger finger that was too damn close to the trigger guard.
 
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