Smokeless muzzleloader

I was thinking about building one on a defiance outcast receiver and manners stock until I found out that you can’t use an optic greater than 1x in most western states during muzzle loader season.
That is super nice! Good shooting too!
What velocity are you getting out of them and what powder?
They are a lot of fun and very user friendly. I had a few rem 700 smokeless. But in the end I return to the old black powder myself.

They are basically case-less rifles for those wondering about getting one.
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