So the wife wanted a new deck...

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Last year the wife wanted to change the deck up, screen in the gazebo and generally fix up the exterior of the house. The painting of the house I outsourced, but after the first few bids on the deck project I said "I should be able to do that myself...."

It took a while, mostly because it was the wife's job to paint everything but she finished that up today. So I give you, deck 2.0:

Before:
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And how it sits today:

deck_after.jpg

She wanted "wrap-around steps" and I wanted to be able to still drive vehicles past the deck (and there is a big tree out of frame that we didn't want to touch). I also wanted the steps a constant width, something that I couldn't seem to explain to dad very well so I just framed it up myself and he saw my vision about half way through. The idea of having the finished edge came to me about half way through framing so I had to go back and add in a whole bunch of extra little bits to make that happen. I see why if you're paying for the labor that you wouldn't do that.

That oh-so-80s style line / border is everywhere:

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The whole thing is screwed together, not a single nail anywhere. I demoed the old deck myself (ie dad stayed FAR away when I was doing that), and pulled all the nails out of the old material and saved as much as I could that wasn't rotted or damaged. I have it all saved off for something, not sure what. There is still one small load of crapola to go to the dump yet.

Inside the gazebo the wife wanted some tables built into the front corners, so this is what I came up with:

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She found some cheapo stools that we painted to match everything that fit right under those ledges. Sometimes you get lucky.

I didn't make the gazebo screens myself, but I did do all the framing and whatnot. I figure it was worth it to let the pros make the screens since so many DIY people told me not to DIY, that they don't last but a season or so because we just don't have the tools/skills to make those screens tight.

I think we're in the whole project just over $4k for everything except the chairs. Lumber, screws, saw blades, screw gun batteries, stain, bracketry, screen door and the screens, and a bed extender for the pickup. Had I known how much of the framing was rotted I would have ordered a bunch of it from BMC like I did with the top boards. As it was, I pulled a few, bought a few at Home Depot, did a few more, etc. Inefficient and expensive that way but it seemed like every time I thought I was done I found another piece that was rotted. There was no flashing between the old deck and the house, so there was some rot to repair there as well. It's flashed and caulked and sealed now.

There was a lot of weekends of this. Lots.

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Those funky benches on top of the deck got recycled into goat toys. They use them every day:

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All in all, there are like 200 mistakes, bad cuts, funky joins, hacks, "wtf is that?" framing.... but it's done... it's 10x as solid as the previous one, and I can say "I made that". Also, I saved a crap ton of money. What's really amazing is that before I moved to NC I didn't even own a hammer (or screw gun, skill saw, chop saw, table saw, string line, square, shovel, pick, clamps, router, etc), I had never built anything. Dad should have taught me this stuff before. Guess I was too busy working on computer stuff.

Mission accomplished.

And somehow @Sneakymedic thinks we're going to build him one at his place now. My labor isn't cheap, I demand payment in ammo!
 
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Last year the wife wanted to change the deck up, screen in the gazebo and generally fix up the exterior of the house. The painting of the house I outsourced, but after the first few bids on the deck project I said "I should be able to do that myself...."

It took a while, mostly because it was the wife's job to paint everything but she finished that up today. So I give you, deck 2.0:

Before:
View attachment 63169

And how it sits today:

View attachment 63173

She wanted "wrap-around steps" and I wanted to be able to still drive vehicles past the deck (and there is a big tree out of frame that we didn't want to touch). I also wanted the steps a constant width, something that I couldn't seem to explain to dad very well so I just framed it up myself and he saw my vision about half way through. The idea of having the finished edge came to me about half way through framing so I had to go back and add in a whole bunch of extra little bits to make that happen. I see why if you're paying for the labor that you wouldn't do that.

The whole thing is screwed together, not a single nail anywhere. I demoed the old deck myself (ie dad stayed FAR away when I was doing that), and pulled all the nails out of the old material and saved as much as I could that wasn't rotted or damaged. I have it all saved off for something, not sure what. There is still one small load of crapola to go to the dump yet.

Inside the gazebo the wife wanted some tables built into the front corners, so this is what I came up with:

View attachment 63180

She found some cheapo stools that we painted to match everything that fit right under those ledges. Sometimes you get lucky.

I didn't make the gazebo screens myself, but I did do all the framing and whatnot. I figure it was worth it to let the pros make the screens since so many DIY people told me not to DIY, that they don't last but a season or so because we just don't have the tools/skills to make those screens tight.

I think we're in the whole project just over $4k for everything except the chairs. Lumber, screws, saw blades, screw gun batteries, stain, bracketry, screen door and the screens, and a bed extender for the pickup. Had I known how much of the framing was rotted I would have ordered a bunch of it from BMC like I did with the top boards. As it was, I pulled a few, bought a few at Home Depot, did a few more, etc. Inefficient and expensive that way but it seemed like every time I thought I was done I found another piece that was rotted. There was no flashing between the old deck and the house, so there was some rot to repair there as well. It's flashed and caulked and sealed now.

There was a lot of weekends of this. Lots.

View attachment 63185

Those funky benches on top of the deck got recycled into goat toys. They use them every day:

View attachment 63186

All in all, there are like 200 mistakes, bad cuts, funky joins, hacks, "wtf is that?" framing.... but it's done... it's 10x as solid as the previous one, and I can say "I made that". Also, I saved a crap ton of money.

Mission accomplished.

And somehow @Sneakymedic thinks we're going to build him one at his place now. My labor isn't cheap, I demand payment in ammo!

Looks great. You should host a CFF whiskey and bourbon tasting evening!

Nothing like a project completed to help a man puff out his chest a little. Your ordeal sounds a little like my 3 year basement finishing project. Got quotes, almost puked, learned how to do some things myself.
 
Beautiful! Nice work!

DS

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Looks very good.
 
Congrats on a job well done. Looks good and just in time for summer.
 
Want to travel up to Boone and replace a deck? Free place to stay and I have lots of ammo for payment!

Looks really nice!
 
Great job! You can tell a lot about a person with the attention to details. That looks great. The way you notched it for the tables to fit is what I was referring to. It is a good touch.
 
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Having built a few decks and built wrap around steps like that a couple of times I can say great job for certain. Thatā€™s a lot of work.
 
Yeah...decks are "easy" in concept and layout, but they still take labor.
 
Very impressive. What were you quoted for some contracter to do it? Just wondering how much you saved..
 
Very impressive. What were you quoted for some contracter to do it? Just wondering how much you saved..

The original quotes didn't actually have the stairs like that or the finished edge / 80s two-tone paint job, so it's hard to say but I'm at $8k in savings without the changes.

I did cheat and a lot of the stair framing and blocking you can't see is reclaimed wood and I really, really watched the drop to minimize waste. My labor and thinking were free, lumber was not.
 
Yeah, I have seen the original deck , and now this one. He did a fantastic job on this. Changed the look of the entire back yard. There was a lot of rot in the old deck that he had to replace. He did a really good job with it. I cant even make fun of him about it. Kinda sad. But alasā€¦.something else will come up i'm sure. :)
 
Awesome job! Looks fantastic.
 
Last year the wife wanted to change the deck up, screen in the gazebo and generally fix up the exterior of the house. The painting of the house I outsourced, but after the first few bids on the deck project I said "I should be able to do that myself...."

It took a while, mostly because it was the wife's job to paint everything but she finished that up today. So I give you, deck 2.0:

Before:
View attachment 63169

And how it sits today:

View attachment 63173

She wanted "wrap-around steps" and I wanted to be able to still drive vehicles past the deck (and there is a big tree out of frame that we didn't want to touch). I also wanted the steps a constant width, something that I couldn't seem to explain to dad very well so I just framed it up myself and he saw my vision about half way through. The idea of having the finished edge came to me about half way through framing so I had to go back and add in a whole bunch of extra little bits to make that happen. I see why if you're paying for the labor that you wouldn't do that.

That oh-so-80s style line / border is everywhere:

View attachment 63187

The whole thing is screwed together, not a single nail anywhere. I demoed the old deck myself (ie dad stayed FAR away when I was doing that), and pulled all the nails out of the old material and saved as much as I could that wasn't rotted or damaged. I have it all saved off for something, not sure what. There is still one small load of crapola to go to the dump yet.

Inside the gazebo the wife wanted some tables built into the front corners, so this is what I came up with:

View attachment 63180

She found some cheapo stools that we painted to match everything that fit right under those ledges. Sometimes you get lucky.

I didn't make the gazebo screens myself, but I did do all the framing and whatnot. I figure it was worth it to let the pros make the screens since so many DIY people told me not to DIY, that they don't last but a season or so because we just don't have the tools/skills to make those screens tight.

I think we're in the whole project just over $4k for everything except the chairs. Lumber, screws, saw blades, screw gun batteries, stain, bracketry, screen door and the screens, and a bed extender for the pickup. Had I known how much of the framing was rotted I would have ordered a bunch of it from BMC like I did with the top boards. As it was, I pulled a few, bought a few at Home Depot, did a few more, etc. Inefficient and expensive that way but it seemed like every time I thought I was done I found another piece that was rotted. There was no flashing between the old deck and the house, so there was some rot to repair there as well. It's flashed and caulked and sealed now.

There was a lot of weekends of this. Lots.

View attachment 63185

Those funky benches on top of the deck got recycled into goat toys. They use them every day:

View attachment 63186

All in all, there are like 200 mistakes, bad cuts, funky joins, hacks, "wtf is that?" framing.... but it's done... it's 10x as solid as the previous one, and I can say "I made that". Also, I saved a crap ton of money. What's really amazing is that before I moved to NC I didn't even own a hammer (or screw gun, skill saw, chop saw, table saw, string line, square, shovel, pick, clamps, router, etc), I had never built anything. Dad should have taught me this stuff before. Guess I was too busy working on computer stuff.

Mission accomplished.

And somehow @Sneakymedic thinks we're going to build him one at his place now. My labor isn't cheap, I demand payment in ammo!
Very nice!
 
Nice deck. Before I put my reading glasses on I thought the last word in the title had an I in it instead of an e!
 
Looks great sir!!! Nice job!
 
Looks great!

Almost hate to ask, but did you select untreated lumber to frame the openings? Iā€™m looking at the picture of the corner counter that you made.
 
Looks great!

Almost hate to ask, but did you select untreated lumber to frame the openings? Iā€™m looking at the picture of the corner counter that you made.

some of it. the lower half was done with treated (mostly), the stuff up on top was untreated. I was using a lot of drop from other projects and didn't have enough treated for everything. The paint is some sort of sealant / deck restore stuff (like deckover) so I'm hoping that handles the occasional water that blows onto those parts.

that was the last corner, so it looks like it's all untreated....
 
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some of it. the lower half was done with treated (mostly), the stuff up on top was untreated. I was using a lot of drop from other projects and didn't have enough treated for everything. The paint is some sort of sealant / deck restore stuff (like deckover) so I'm hoping that handles the occasional water that blows onto those parts.

that was the last corner, so it looks like it's all untreated....
Well we built stuff with wood long before we had treated lumber. Paint it good and keep an eye out for borer bees.
 
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