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An old neighbor up in MA lost one of her Yorkies to a river hawk. Then the damn bird kept coming back hoping to score another one.

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fishgutzy said:
An old neighbor up in MA lost one of her Yorkies to a river hawk. Then the damn bird kept coming back hoping to score another one.

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To be fair, that's about all a Yorkie is good for. Chihuahua's too.
 
Are we talking coyotes (kill 'em), or hawks (love 'em)?

I have seen more and more coyotes over the past couple years in north Durham.
 
Some guy from Durham was on TV a couple of weeks ago complaining that a yote had grabbed one of his lap dogs. Said it bothered him that someone couldn't do something about an animal that was that aggressive.

The guy that owns the land our gun club is on has issued standing orders to kill coyotes with extreme prejudice no matter where we find them on his property.
 
On my way to my stand early one morning (in essentially downtown Clayton), I had 3 coyotes following me (2 on either side about 30 yds away and 1 behind about the same distance). Made it to my stand unscathed but swore I would never go again without a handgun (this was during bow season). My hunting partner and I have managed to bag 3 over the last 2 seasons but that hasn't put a dent in their population.

Might have to invest in a night scope and suppressor and hang out in my stand a couple of nights
 
From what I gather, most of the coyote issues we have started when fox hunters wanted something a little tougher for their dogs to run in the fox pens. Coyotes are a lot smarter than foxes, and escaped. They're a problem that some of us have helped create.

Of course, with deer being as overpopulated as they are, the coyotes wouldn't be so bad if they'd stick to deer. But like most predators, coyotes go for the meal that takes the least amount of effort to get. So tame pets often end up on the dinner table.
 
RedneckFur said:
From what I gather, most of the coyote issues we have started when fox hunters wanted something a little tougher for their dogs to run in the fox pens. Coyotes are a lot smarter than foxes, and escaped. They're a problem that some of us have helped create.
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From what I have been told, fox hunters wanted to import coyotes. The wildlife commission (or who ever) forbid it because they were not a native species. Rumor is a group of fox hunters brought some in anyway and after they had established numbers, they went back to the commission and requested again to import them due to them being here already. The second request was granted and the slippery slope began. How true this is, i'm not sure as I haven't really read up on it much but I've heard the same story from multiple people.

If any of ya'll around Cumberland/Sampson/Harnett etc need a hand thinning them out, I'd be happy to tag along. Never been yote huntin but wouldn't mind trying.
 
I was leaving my neighborhood in the middle of this metro area at 8-9pm the other night while one was just standing in the middle of the street 25 yards away under a street light just staring at my truck sitting at the stop sign. I turned in his direction. When my lights hit him he just turned and walked away. There's a lot of open space and woods around me due to the age of the neighborhood. Pretty large lots and greenways. I think the explosion of new construction around the whole perimeter of this area has driven the critters into town and well as out of town.
 
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fieldgrade said:
I was leaving my neighborhood in the middle of this metro area at 8-9pm the other night while one was just standing in the middle of the street 25 yards away under a street light just staring at my truck sitting at the stop sign. I turned in his direction. When my lights hit him he just turned and walked away. There's a lot of open space and woods around me due to the age of the neighborhood. Pretty large lots and greenways. I think the explosion of new construction around the whole perimeter of this area has driven the critters into town and well as out of town.
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Lots of cats and little dogs and kids in the big city to feed on too.
 
I've found skulls on my rural property that I'm pretty sure we're coyote. Also seen tracks up around my travel trailer that I park there thst aren't deer. If I see any they will be shoot on site.
 
They are getting very bad in my area as things develop they are being pushed out into areas where they feel safe. I now hear them almost nightly and very close. Seeing them during the day happens more and more. Most of the times when I see them I'm driving and don't have a chance to do anything about it but I might make efforts to change that.
 
I haven't noticed any increase in my area but it could go unnoticed unless I happen to be on the deck early in the mornings. That's when I have killed the 3 that I've seen. What amazes me is that I have called the local PD each time I've shot one and they seem to care less. Waiting for the next candidate.....
 
I've never seen one in my little suburban hood, but one of my neighbors used to let his dog out in the yard at night. Key phrase is used to. It went out one night and never came back. It was fairly small and well trained. It wouldn't have likely wandered off. My neighbor put up a camera to see how many deer wander through his back yard. There was a yote back there a few times.
 
Coyotes are the main reason I have taken to hunting with a semi. I rolled 4 this year with the 6.8. That said the only way to make a dent in the population is to trap the hell out of them. It is impossible to shoot them fast enough and they learn quickly.
 
fsj80 said:
On my way to my stand early one morning (in essentially downtown Clayton), I had 3 coyotes following me (2 on either side about 30 yds away and 1 behind about the same distance). Made it to my stand unscathed but swore I would never go again without a handgun (this was during bow season). My hunting partner and I have managed to bag 3 over the last 2 seasons but that hasn't put a dent in their population.

Might have to invest in a night scope and suppressor and hang out in my stand a couple of nights
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I have a scope for ya.
 
I've got a few thousand rounds of 400 grain .50 cal that are just waiting for Coyote use. I've seen a crap load of them over the years. I was sitting at my desk this morning listening to my insurance agent tell me about his beautiful German Shepard that got attacked by a pack of coyotes 3 months ago. It cost them $12,000 to save their dog. Fortunately a gofundme page was set up by someone they knew and most of the cost was covered.
 
Yotes around me are more solitary ... and not very vocal except for to occasional siren response. I know there are at least 3 that visit and I am going to start using the electronic distressed rabbit call a guy out west is letting me borrow. I don't expect to clean them out but I got a freakin' .22Mag V-Maxs (or 10) for each of them through a rimfire suppressor. It ain't the quietest but it will allow me to at least hear them move off. NC Dept of Wildlife should post a bounty on them (and hogs) like some states ... heck my rifles and suppressors could start paying for themselves :D
 
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I saw one last week crossing Hwy 311 at Bus. 85 in High Point. Never expected to see one there.
My dad and I have killed 5 in the last couple years while deer hunting. They have pretty much destroyed the local turkey population as well as rabbits near my dad's place.
 
RedneckFur said:
From what I gather, most of the coyote issues we have started when fox hunters wanted something a little tougher for their dogs to run in the fox pens. Coyotes are a lot smarter than foxes, and escaped. They're a problem that some of us have helped create.

Of course, with deer being as overpopulated as they are, the coyotes wouldn't be so bad if they'd stick to deer. But like most predators, coyotes go for the meal that takes the least amount of effort to get. So tame pets often end up on the dinner table.
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I got picked for a deer hunt at the Savannah River Site in Aiken, SC back in the early 90s. I was standing on a road and saw what I thought was a GSD cross the road about 50yds down. About that time, a small truck pulled up. It was a couple of guys with the hunt that were riding around checking on everyone. I asked them if they saw that dog. They said it was a coyote. When they said that, my response was if I would have known that, I would have shot it. They said to be glad I didn't because they were just introduced to the area and I would have been fined heavily.
 
Three of them, big ones, walking on the road that runs behind the Harris Teeter on Kildaire Farm Road in Cary a few weeks ago, right at dusk. The land where I hunt, I found a fawn's leg, with spots, last year. If I lived closer to the land, I'd look into trapping, but I can't commit to going there every day to check the traps.
 
I saw a beautiful coyote in Rolesville some time back. Bright orange with a white tail. Thought it was a red fox at first, but the body shape was wrong and he was way too big.
 
Here's one of my goats after three coyotes got in with them just a few years ago. The goat was still alive while the 'yotes were eating him. Three more goats were chewed up so bad that I put them down as well...four dead goats.

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Cocked & Locked said:
Here's one of my goats after three coyotes got in with them just a few years ago. The goat was still alive while the 'yotes were eating him. Three more goats were chewed up so bad that I put them down as well...four dead goats.
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Could/would you get a donkey? Get the right one and that sucker will kick a yote to back over the fence if the donkey don't kill it first! A seasoned guard donkey can be a major player if you can have one.
 
trcubed said:
Isn't the last picture a wolf?
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Nope, coyote. Looks bigger in the picture than it actually is.

NCFubar said:
Could/would you get a donkey? Get the right one and that sucker will kick a yote to back over the fence if the donkey don't kill it first! A seasoned guard donkey can be a major player if you can have one.
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I could get a donkey and yes you are right. They are good for coyote control. Thought about getting one but keep procrastinating.
 
Chuckman said:
Are we talking coyotes (kill 'em), or hawks (love 'em)?

I have seen more and more coyotes over the past couple years in north Durham.
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Hawks give us more trouble than foxes and coyotes put together. Protection should have ended decades ago.
 
Kill em. Kill em all.
I killed one before a 22TSC match at Conover in 2013 I believe. He was about half grown pup.
40gr Lapua CenterX with the 64MPR at 212yds. Straight through the lungs through and through.
Shot placement, there is no substitute.
I've got a pic somewhere.
 
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