So youll keep your guns, so what?

Well, I called my reps today and let them know that I think there are too many laws against gun ownership already and I'll be paying attention to see who to vote for in the next election.
It's a start...
My state rep here in Franklin County is useless. But there's nobody else unless I want a radical leftist.
 
Beware the counter-protests, brought in to make a scene. Remember Charlottesville?
Honestly, that has been on my mind. I believe in avoiding crowds. At the same time, I know that if this crap isn’t stopped in VA then NC is next. I also think that every voice counts. I mentioned it to my wife and she said she wouldn’t go anywhere near a crowd like that unarmed.

Now, think of the counter protest. Will ANTIFA try their tactics against a crowd of 1,000+ people armed with ARs? IT has the potential of turning into a bloodbath that becomes a turning point that could go either way.
 
I think most of us agree that door to door confiscation of arms would constitute a time to act. But other than that? I think every person has their own tipping point, and someone has to weigh the comforts of life and society, against what's being taken and decide if their action is worth the cost. Outside of that, it will take many agreeing on the same point, and acting together to create a meaningful change.
Sometimes an individual tipping point can cause a cascade of others tipping points.

"Courage is contagious. When a brave man takes a stand, the spines of others are often stiffened."

Billy Graham
 
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Honestly, that has been on my mind. I believe in avoiding crowds. At the same time, I know that if this crap isn’t stopped in VA then NC is next. I also think that every voice counts. I mentioned it to my wife and she said she wouldn’t go anywhere near a crowd like that unarmed.

Now, think of the counter protest. Will ANTIFA try their tactics against a crowd of 1,000+ people armed with ARs? IT has the potential of turning into a bloodbath that becomes a turning point that could go either way.

Dixon chased the guy driving the car into / down the ally.


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Honestly, that has been on my mind. I believe in avoiding crowds. At the same time, I know that if this crap isn’t stopped in VA then NC is next. I also think that every voice counts. I mentioned it to my wife and she said she wouldn’t go anywhere near a crowd like that unarmed.

Now, think of the counter protest. Will ANTIFA try their tactics against a crowd of 1,000+ people armed with ARs? IT has the potential of turning into a bloodbath that becomes a turning point that could go either way.

Better be live-streaming everything......on the ground, aerials from drones. You cannot allow the narrative to be told about you, but must tell it yourself.
 
Everyone has their personal point of no return, a point at which I would rather die than tolerate any more domination by someone or something. I think the older one is the closer that point may be. I could be one of the older members present and therefore have a much shorter point of no return. I've lived most of my life and the short side left may not be worth the strain of forced compliance. I only have LJ left for family and she and I have discussed this very subject on several occasions, she doesn't necessarily agree but she does understand.
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Like you I have little to lose. My home is paid for and by trust goes to my only daughter. I say come ahead at your risk. I may even take an offensive position. So f-you to those who want to protect their retirement over the Constitution they swore to uphold. In my mind that may make me the most dangerous guy in the neighborhood.

At this point I almost welcome the encounter. Tired of being lonely. Come ahead. Or behind, whatever as you all are pricks.
 
Everyone has their personal point of no return, a point at which I would rather die than tolerate any more domination by someone or something. I think the older one is the closer that point may be. I could be one of the older members present and therefore have a much shorter point of no return. I've lived most of my life and the short side left may not be worth the strain of forced compliance. I only have LJ left for family and she and I have discussed this very subject on several occasions, she doesn't necessarily agree but she does understand.
Like you I have little to lose. My home is paid for and by trust goes to my only daughter. I say come ahead at your risk. I may even take an offensive position. So f-you to those who want to protect their retirement over the Constitution they swore to uphold. In my mind that may make me the most dangerous guy in the neighborhood.
At this point I almost welcome the encounter. Tired of being lonely. Come ahead. Or behind, whatever as you all are pricks.

Phil Rabalais, author of the book American Insurgent, said he meant for his book to be hypothetical, and far in the future.
He had no idea and no desire that it would be coming true ever, much less only a couple years after he released the book.
The two of you might enjoy a bit of light reading. And by "light reading" I mean veterans adopt terrorist tactics to fight their own government once it starts doing no-knock raids and making people disappear just for the crime of keeping guns in their houses.
 
All of these laws even if they dont get your guns, will effectively choke out your ability to USE them, to enjoy them.

Correct

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, but its scary times, and just hoarding ammo and hiding your guns doesnt seem to be a viable long term solution does it? Unless thats the sole purpose of having your guns.

The original purpose for our 2 Amendment is to keep the Gov't at Bay, and worst case have the ability to defend ourselves against threats foreign & domestic.

Unlike the past ( many ) decades, IMHO currently our 2 amendment, is to some extent, a Deterrent to our Gov't making "Other Changes" us "Common Peasants" will not approve of.

But what about our LIFESTYLE?

Your lifestyle, as mine and others is directly related to our Constitution and the "Bill Of Rights."

I submit, if or when Gov't at any level ( Feds top of ladder ) disenfranchises, limits, voids, the 2 Amendment we will experience a continued & accelerated transformation of our way of life with the other 9 Amendments being fully disregarded and the Constitution just being forgotten about, period.

SO, whether one likes, dislikes , owns or doesn't own Firearms,,, what ever standard of living any of us enjoys currently is contingent on the 2 Amendment because it is still relevant and a recognized part of the "BOR."

Some or many will state or say we ( or a society ) don't need to be armed and my reply is The Founders lived in and with situations far more severe than most any of us and the 2A was included for Damn Good Reasons.

Hugo Chavez was able to Dis-Arm Venezuelans thru False Promises, etc.
Encourage anyone to do your own research.

And none of this will be possible so long as the citizens can legally own their weapon of choice. Once they take those the government will swell until it implodes.
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For starters, let's realize that inherently we are a violent species. It's in our nature. It's in our biology. It's in our ancestral heritage. For some reason in this post modern realm we've come to eschew that and claim to be "peaceful", especially when it comes to allowing others to dictate to and steal from us where we instead shroud it in a bunch of ceremony and call it justified. It's also a bunch of BS, including the "peaceful" part because a portion of that which is stolen from us is used by those that have been "elected" to hire agents of force to keep ourselves in line. We can't claim to be about peaceful power while simultaneously hiring agents of violence to enforce that "peace".

I've posted this video below before and it is very relevant. The words on the legal paper representing the covenant that was supposed to constrain government are not meant for Chiefs and Kings. We do not need courts, judges, politicians, scholars, etc to interpret these sacred texts for us. We were meant to do so ourselves. Henceforth, we know and we determine what is an infringement and a violation, not the politicians, not the judiciary. They are secondary and are to keep themselves in line, but We The People are the final arbiters. They have been overstepping for a long time now and have grown bolder to where they now want to disarm us. As has been discussed several times, the reason is clear. History is our guide.



Convincing and passionate for a Canadian.
 
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That picture has always bothered me, in the sense, that something's not right. Maybe it's the staging.
Maybe, it's the fact that they all have their fingers correctly outside their triggers. Maybe it's their look or attitude. I'm not sure. But, I don't think they're who they want you to think they are.

Just sayin'...
 
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All the news and talk from so many people got me thinking and wondering.... alot of people say well youll never take my guns, or they were lost in a boating accident.... thats fine. So if that day ever came that the militia had to rise up youre covered. But what about our LIFESTYLE? What about shooting with our children, teaching them to respect and use firearms as a means for safety. All of these laws even if they dont get your guns, will effectively choke out your ability to USE them, to enjoy them. You may live in a 2a friendly area, but legally you cant bring your gun to the range. And eventually im sure they are shooting for legally one day there will be no carry laws everywhere. One bad day, one angry cop, and youre feeedom is gone, youre life is changed forever and the lives of everyone in youre family. Not sure where I really meant to go with this, but its scary times, and just hoarding ammo and hiding your guns doesnt seem to be a viable long term solution does it? Unless thats the sole purpose of having your guns. End rant, curious on peoples thoughts.
Thanks. This is the point I try to make every time someone says the law doesn't matter because "free men do free stuff" .
 
I think most of us agree that door to door confiscation of arms would constitute a time to act. But other than that? I think every person has their own tipping point, and someone has to weigh the comforts of life and society, against what's being taken and decide if their action is worth the cost. Outside of that, it will take many agreeing on the same point, and acting together to create a meaningful change.
And that's the problem. I've always said they will never attempt mass confiscation, they aren't that stupid. They will simply outlaw certain firearms/features over time to avoid simultaneously stimulating a critical mass of resistance. It will be up to us to turn them in. We can keep them but as the OP says we can't really use them, except in an all out revolt that who is going to organize and "say when"? They will make examples out of some of us on occasion on an individual basis, but they'll never "come for our guns" like many people seem to think. Death by a thousand cuts is more like it. They are smart, and they are patient.

To end on a more positive note, anyone have any experience with the NC state militia, and if so what's your take?
 
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To end on a more positive note, anyone have any experience with the NC state militia, and if so what's your take?

It's a real think, but inactivated by a Democrat governor over a compensation claim from a be of its members who was called out in an emergency, by the State, and if I recall correctly, goth pretty badly.

Since it was in service to the State, he and his family sought compensation for his injuries, the State said no,and the governor indefinitely inactivated it.

I believe it's Chapter 127A of the NC General Statutes - allows for training, equipping, and calling it out for a plethora of emergencies. Allows for armories, etc.

They have a presence on Facebook, but it's mostly used to be folks that were in when it was active, and every now and then folks who want to be involved. They hold informal training every now and then.
 
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Narrative will be told regardless. Remember Sandemann?

Sure.....which is why you have to be the first to tell it from your perspective. It’s what happened with the Boston Massacre, Lexington and Concord. The plan to tell one side of the story existed before the events took place, was executed to perfection, and carried out with such haste that it’s the version of those events we still know.

Live Streaming circumvents the mainstream media. Look at Hong Kong, Venezuela. You don’t see much of them in the mainstream media....not the way you do by watching it live. Information, and how that information is transmitted, is power in a digital age. Even the narrative around Sandemann quickly fell apart once full videos of those events became public.

Rebellion is as much a propaganda war as it is a physical contest, if not moreso.
 
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So, those of us that have alternative comms. What are your plans? Have you thought about the methods you might use? Who are you going to talk to? about a backup plan?
The possibilities are almost endless, but in a crisis us not the time to be figuring it out.
 
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So, those of us that have alternative comms. What are your plans? Have you thought about the methods you might use? Who are you going to talk to? about a backup plan?
The possibilities are almost endless, but in a crisis us not the time to be figuring it out.
I guess this is why folks were buying up all those Baofeng radios that will transmit out of band.

To put this in deeper perspective there is talk, unconfirmed information - not intelligence, that in VA they’re planning to shutdown (cell) phones (service), internet, and power, in the event that the 1/20/20 rally goes wild. This would disrupt 90% or more of the people’s ability to communicate. Obviously they’re targeting phone apps that are used to coordinate the riots. At that point you’d be left with transmitters and receivers working simplex or other low tech analogies. Who would you communicate with? What would be your (information) protocol? What would be your action plan as a result?

You are right in that if this isn’t figured out and practiced in advance it will fail spectacularly.
 
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Like the guy in this video; I’ve never heard more open talk of people willing to participate in acts of violence in defense of our country and god given rights. At the moment, all eyes are on Virginia and what happens there. Will the government/governor back down? Will they double down? It’s hard to tell someone where your line in the sand is if you don’t know where, when, and how the fight is going to start. Comparatively speaking, things in the colonies 250 years ago were far worse in terms of how the daily lives of people were impacted. There’s beer at the corner store and the super bowl isn’t too far off. Gonna have to make the average Joe a little less fat and happy at the same time in order to get the support needed.
 
Comparatively speaking, things in the colonies 250 years ago were far worse in terms of how the daily lives of people were impacted. There’s beer at the corner store and the super bowl isn’t too far off.
Notice how a few months ago there was a lot of talk about a recession heading into the 2020 election. This was coupled with talk about how the next one will be much worse than the one of 2008. That talk seems to have stopped. Hmmm. Maybe TPTB decided queueing an economic downturn on pissed off deplorables isn’t such a good idea.
 
I’ve never heard more open talk of people willing to participate in acts of violence in defense of our country and god given rights.

This guy Ben is beyond Courage as he just Outed himself as an undercover brother to appropriately address the Fairfax County Board with 100% Resolve concerning the current political atmosphere.

He is also correct that "Citizens" openly discussing the Tar & Feathering of politicians is " a terrifying prospect" and IMHO continues on and politely asked if the AG is "Double Jointed."

At the moment, all eyes are on Virginia and what happens there. Will the government/governor back down? Will they double down?

Gov "Black Face" may want to back down, however (( Like it or NOT )) Soros & other Globalist are working with Bloomberg to to dismantle Virginia's Constitution ( as well as other states ) and Gov "Black face" will do what he is TOLD by his "Overlords."

The Globalist Master Plan is behind schedule because Killary was not seated in the Oval Office and now they have to or are trying to directly force the "Heart & Soul Citizens" toward complying with their overall "Evil Agenda."

Overall, the Overlords have access to technology and we "Common Peasants" have ( if needed ) plenty of "Liberty Sticks."
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Everyone pretty much is on the same page here. As gun owners, we've given up enough.

Who's going to stand with our brothers and sisters to the north in VA next month, at Richmond on 1/20?

Whatever happens in VA, NC will be next. Good or Bad
 
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So, those of us that have alternative comms. What are your plans? Have you thought about the methods you might use? Who are you going to talk to? about a backup plan?
The possibilities are almost endless, but in a crisis us not the time to be figuring it out.

I was going to use smoke signals,but with Liz Warren decidedly on the side of the government.....
 
Everyone pretty much is on the same page here. As gun owners, we've given up enough.

Who's going to stand with our brothers and sisters to the north in VA next month, at Richmond on 1/20?

Whatever happens in VA, NC will be next. Good or Bad

I am checking the calendar and trying to make some arrangements at work to make it up that way.

If we had enough people, we could rent a van or bus and go as a group.
 
Everyone pretty much is on the same page here. As gun owners, we've given up enough.

Who's going to stand with our brothers and sisters to the north in VA next month, at Richmond on 1/20?

Whatever happens in VA, NC will be next. Good or Bad
I told my wife last night that I'm going, and she reminded me that we have a family event that was planned months ago. It's a big one too. Family comes first, that's the only thing keeping me away.
 
Just have to discontinue several Democrat politician and they should get the message, long before it turns into an armed revolt.

These Dem bastards need to suffer the consequences for their attacks on constitutional rights.

Some of you are way over thinking it. Keep in mind many politicians do support 2A, its these Dem bastards that keep pushing for less gun rights.


Gun control = People control

I will not comply.
 
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US Govt taught me and my son to develop and lead guerrilla warfare. Remember 1/4 of NC there is the Republic of Pine Land already in its borders and the underground is already in place.

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Guns are really not that important in any major crackdown. The Feds aren't worried anyway. It's just a hot button issue to mobilize opposition toward a Big Distraction. Concentrated energy would be better spent learning the complex wiring schematics for all our local government entities. Understanding how these established institutions cooperate silently, effectively, and continuously no matter what, is essential to hold the line or possibly reverse the trend. THEY are in control! WE are ignorant. An effective guerilla resistance would require knowledge and communication toward placing patriotic citizens in the most boring offices and bureaucratic basements of civil function. Boring stuff... Dangerous officials are well trained robots. They have credentials that prove their competence. Nice guys too...The system lives and seems benign. Voting is pointless. Typical political types might mean well, but are too trusting and gullible to do more than listen to professional trusted expert advisers to handle such thorny issues. We get more of the same regardless and inevitably from Central Planning. Sure, pet your guns. Recite the slogans and sacred documents. They are important spiritual tools, not idols. By the time they are truly needed, no ammo or components will be found and every proud defender of Amendment 2 will have already lost the rest. The New Deal was a bloodless coupe d'etate that's still in effect today. Think about that! Its slimy DNA is still reproducing. But a general awakening and rejection of leftist totalitarian ideology is growing, even among liberals. So there is hope.
 
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