I've got 1350 rounds of this stuff- I don't like it- it doesn't cycle my new Canik well enough to compete. I'm putting hollow point in quotes because as Freedom says, it's not for self-defense, but they market it for competitions. https://www.freedommunitions.com/ammunition/pistol/9mm-luger-147-gr-hp-new.html That's what I have, except mine is all nickel cases. In 50-round packs as shown. $200 takes it all (14.8c a round). FTF in Raleigh.