Stoneman Douglas kids coming to my kids school.

Found this. http://www.wral.com/parkland-students-to-join-rally-against-gun-violence-at-unc/17450998/

Among the speakers will be Marjory Stoneman Douglas students Jaclyn Corin and Sarah Chadwick, who both helped organized the March For Our Lives rally in Washington on Saturday.


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Parkland students to join rally against gun violence at UNC
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By Emmy Victor, WRAL reporter

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. — A pair of survivors from the Valentine's Day school shooting in Parkland, Florida, will join hundreds of people Thursday evening at a rally against gun violence organized by students at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Even though the rally is happening at UNC, college students from around the region plan to be at the second such rally on the Chapel Hill campus in recent weeks. Organizers said their goal is to keep the conversation about gun control alive.

Among the speakers will be Marjory Stoneman Douglas students Jaclyn Corin and Sarah Chadwick, who both helped organized the March For Our Lives rally in Washington on Saturday.

"People need to understand that we're not trying to take their guns," Corin said at the D.C. march. "We're just trying to make (it) harder to get guns and to (take) the weapons of war out of our streets."
 
Well a certain couple Parkland students are on Twitter now encouraging people to buy their swag.

...and also thanking others for sending them free food (product plugs).

Funny considering one of them is always in Che shirts or with an old Cuban arm band.

Almost as ironic as them complaining the clear backpacks infringed on their constitutional rights.
 
Ask your daughter to ask the students how it feels to know that this would have been avoided if the local cops had done their job, and why they haven't said a word about that. Ask the principal if "Citizens For FBI Accountability" would be given equal time.
 
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Mike Overlay said:
Why is political activism against a constitutionally protected right going on in a tax payer funded public school?
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Because political activism is also a constitutionally-protected right. That said, because it's a public school, I think they should give equal air time for counterarguments.
 
Chuckman said:
Because political activism is also a constitutionally-protected right. That said, because it's a public school, I think they should give equal air time for counterarguments.
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I don't think they should give time to EITHER side. Politics has no place in K-12 schools.
 
Tim said:
I don't think they should give time to EITHER side. Politics has no place in K-12 schools.
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Sure it does. It absolutely does. As long as it's with counterarguments, it helps with critical thinking. Do you also advocate taking out history? Civics? Field trips to the legislature?

We are always posting about indoctrination in schools, and a healthy debate presenting all sides helps protect it. One side, forget it.
 
Chuckman said:
Sure it does. It absolutely does. As long as it's with counterarguments, it helps with critical thinking. Do you also advocate taking out history? Civics? Field trips to the legislature?

We are always posting about indoctrination in schools, and a healthy debate presenting all sides helps protect it. One side, forget it.
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I don't equate "civics" with "politics".
 
Tim said:
I don't equate "civics" with "politics".
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Like it or lump it, they are inseparable. If we teach the kids the theoreticals about how society is supposed to work, they should see how it really works. Expose them to the good, the bad, and the ugly, see all sides of the issue. Get them asking you questions and be a good parent and why what's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong.

At the end of the day, though, I shrug it off. I homeschool. But as a taxpayer, if they allow dissenting arguments, I am OK with it. A single point of view is no bueno.
 
Why is this a talk about gun control instead of school safety? They are two separate topics. Gun control is a national topic that has to be addressed at a Federal level while school safety can be handled locally.

I would be asking Gwen how this discussion is going to help with her plans for school safety that she wants implemented at her school.
 
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Bailey Boat said:
If ALL of the board members are okay with this I'd take names and make it public before the next elections....
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Best option would be to find candidates to run against them. Use this as a platform
Drain The swamp at the local level.

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Chuckman said:
Sure it does. It absolutely does. As long as it's with counterarguments, it helps with critical thinking. Do you also advocate taking out history? Civics? Field trips to the legislature?

We are always posting about indoctrination in schools, and a healthy debate presenting all sides helps protect it. One side, forget it.
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Thomas Sowell did a great article on this theory. That somehow having kids discuss these lofty issues helps them with critical thinking. Sowell's view, and I agree after watching this in my daughter's school, is that it is hog wash. First, the kids do not have knowledge or facts in their mushy little brains when they have these discussions. They have no intellectual foundation to support their arguments. So the teacher and his/her views typically drive the argument. Secondly, since they don't have enough wisdom or experience to discuss these things the debates turn into arguments about how they feel. And emotion rules the day instead of facts or logic.
 
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Chuckman said:
Like it or lump it, they are inseparable. If we teach the kids the theoreticals about how society is supposed to work, they should see how it really works. Expose them to the good, the bad, and the ugly, see all sides of the issue. Get them asking you questions and be a good parent and why what's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong.

At the end of the day, though, I shrug it off. I homeschool. But as a taxpayer, if they allow dissenting arguments, I am OK with it. A single point of view is no bueno.
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Spot on brother.

I say neither side should be doing it but if one side is doing both sides should be allowed to do it.
 
CZfool68 said:
Thomas Sowell didna great article on this theory. That somehow having kids discuss these lofty issues helps them with critical thinking. Sowell's view, and I agree after watching this in my daughter's school, is that it is hog wash. First, the kids do not have knowledge or facts in their mushy little brains when they have these discussions. They have now intellectual foundation to support their arguments. So the teacher and his/her views typically drive the argument. Secondly, since they don't have enough wisdom or experience to discuss these things the debates turn into arguments about how they feel. And emotion rules the day instead of facts or logic.
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Sowell is a great thinker, but as educated as he is he doesn't hold expertise in how children think. Gail Heyman (2008) shows that children start developing critical thinking skills as early as three. But, as I think you are trying to state, kids are influenced by the social strata around them, and the literature shows that because of the social strata around them kids fail to evaluate sources critically and are sometimes reluctant to be vocal in questioning authenticity.

So Sowell's point, at face value, is wrong. Discussing any lofty ideals can encourage and promote critical thinking; that's scientific. If you want to argue whether kids should be engaging in any debate (this one or any other) because of the social strata, I could see that.

My bigger point is, if a school is going to do this, offer the counterarguments as well. Any one-sided view on any topic is by nature exclusive and discriminatory.

Schools in general do a piss-poor job of teaching and promoting critical thinking.
 
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Seems these charter schools have more leadway with no superintendent and local school board members to lose their position. Many charters are welcoming them in as they fall closer in North Carolina to their target audience.
 
I don't know, if it were my boys who were asked if they want to go, I might ask them if they would like to wear something like this to the event

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The way I see it, if they can bring someone in to talk about a stance on a political subject, they should allow the students attending to make a statement themselves. If you don't want the headache of having two opposing view points, don't have it, period.

One boy would love it I know, the other one would just look at me and shake his head LOL
 
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Not read all the comments, so I might be echoing someone else, and might ruffle some feathers for this, but that's nothing new...

Why, just because youre in the general vicinity, is everyone now a 'survivor' of the shooting?
I mean, the Hogg kid - apparently in a different building or wing from the gunman, never got close to him? If bullets never even got close to you then I wouldnt consider yourself a 'survivor.'
Survivors are war vets. Holocaust vets. Those whose lives were in direct danger from an enemy.
These kids are just milking this nonsense.

And for them to be traveling around giving speeches?
F THAT NOISE.
GO TO SCHOOL!
LEARN!
We/NO ONE needs your opinion on gun control because of that. There were over a dozen football games at my high school this past year, I was witness to some - when do I get to go around, getting paid, to talk to colleges and NFL about football? Oh, I dont because I dont know squat about it? Dang. I was hoping for a quick buck.

These kids dont know squat about what they are talking about.
I truly do feel for them for losing friends in this tragic event, Im not that heartless, but this is out of control.

If they were at my school I would NOT attend this crap.

Damn this pisses me off so much. Apologies yall.
 
HMP said:
Not read all the comments, so I might be echoing someone else, and might ruffle some feathers for this, but that's nothing new...

Why, just because youre in the general vicinity, is everyone now a 'survivor' of the shooting?
I mean, the Hogg kid - apparently in a different building or wing from the gunman, never got close to him? If bullets never even got close to you then I wouldnt consider yourself a 'survivor.'
Survivors are war vets. Holocaust vets. Those whose lives were in direct danger from an enemy.
These kids are just milking this nonsense.

And for them to be traveling around giving speeches?
F THAT NOISE.
GO TO SCHOOL!
LEARN!
We/NO ONE needs your opinion on gun control because of that. There were over a dozen football games at my high school this past year, I was witness to some - when do I get to go around, getting paid, to talk to colleges and NFL about football? Oh, I dont because I dont know squat about it? Dang. I was hoping for a quick buck.

These kids dont know squat about what they are talking about.
I truly do feel for them for losing friends in this tragic event, Im not that heartless, but this is out of control.

If they were at my school I would NOT attend this crap.

Damn this pisses me off so much. Apologies yall.
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HMP said:
Not read all the comments, so I might be echoing someone else, and might ruffle some feathers for this, but that's nothing new...

Why, just because youre in the general vicinity, is everyone now a 'survivor' of the shooting?
I mean, the Hogg kid - apparently in a different building or wing from the gunman, never got close to him? If bullets never even got close to you then I wouldnt consider yourself a 'survivor.'
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Couldn't agree more, but that's the society we live in. Folks are so self absorbed, have egos biggern' Texas and need validation of those egos...

"You hear what he did? He unabashedly came out and stated his opinion...what courage!" or "She stood firm and she supported X...how brave...she's a HERO!!!!!"

Just gotta be the f*cking center of attention and will use whatever means necessary, even if it's pure bullsh*t, to accomplish that goal.
 
Specifically it's for attention on social media. That's why they eat Tide Pods (not because they taste good).

Or like those people that died a couple years ago when the "challenge" was those "planking" videos, etc. Now the challenge is to get "famous" off of shootings.

Note it made several major news outlets today that the Parkland shooter is getting more "fan mail" and sexual notes than any mass murderer the DA is aware of (except Manson).

Hogg is driven by the same kind of attention driven sickness that those freaks are IMHO.
 
You know, maybe they DO need opportunities to talk to survivors of active shooting events.

I hereby volunteer myself as just such a survivor. September 15th, 1986, Great Lakes Naval Training Center as a student in ET-A School. Look it up.

Seaman Arif M. Ameen shot 4 people, killing ETCS Glenn Hull.

Not only was I literally just down the hall when it happened, the shooter lived in the same barracks I did...on the same floor, in fact.

I'll lay it on the line for these kids.
 
Glade8r said:
So I got this email last night. I sent an email to the principal this morning but she has not responded. I asked my 12 year old daughter if she was attending and she said no. She has heard enough about it already.


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I call bullshit on her waiting for confirmation- she waited until the last minute so she could say she informed everyone. I'd be very careful that they didn't force all the students to attend-because no-one objected.
 
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