Suppressor experiences and recommondations

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  1. drumsarereallycool

    drumsarereallycool New Member

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    Considering getting a suppressor for my Yugos, looking at multi-calibers as well. I'm a newb to the suppressor world. Thanks for any help!
     
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    Ikarus1 Avtomat Krishna-kov

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    Yugo as in AK?

    Yeah my personal opinion is that the AK in 7.62x39 is a terrible suppressor host. That is said as a Yugo AK afficianado. The AK pistol is perhaps the worst, and why I own a .300blk 8.5" pistol.
     
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    concepthomes1 When do we start? Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    Well, quite a few of us on here have worked with Scott @ Tarheel Sports; he's located in Matthews, NC
     
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    BigWaylon Head philatelist Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    If the commie rifles are your main concern, just get a Dead Air Wolverine and be done with it. ;)
     
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    IUHoosier429 Bull(et) City Charter Member Benefactor Supporting Member

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    Beat me to it. The Wolverine PBS-1 paired with a KNS Precision adjustable gas piston(s) for your gun(s) will make them run like sewing machines.
     
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    11B CIB Administrator Staff Member Charter Life Member

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    Yeeeppp. Only way to go for AKs.

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    NCFubar Well-Known Member

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    And DO NOT expect to fire in without ear protection more than a couple times ... especially at an indoor range or even when under a shelter at an outdoor range. It’s borderline line hearing safe (just over 140dB) and will still ring your ears especially in the pistol configuration.
     
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    Is that because it's piston operated?
     
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    NCFubar Well-Known Member

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    That is a large part of it along with the sonic crack. It’s not to bad in the open for a few rounds and just simple foam plugs will tone it down nicely for more extended fun.

    ETA: touching off suppressed AR’s, especially in SBR or pistol configuration, is not much lower indoors or under a covered range line. They might be 5 or so dB lower but they will still have a fair report and the sonic crack. Running a suppressed SBR in a shoot house and having your ear protection knocked off will cause you to stop real quick.
     
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    Pink_Vapor “Not as funny as he thinks he is”, spouse Supporting Member

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    Gotcha, I’m not familiar with AKs, I’ve a 300BLK AR SBR, other ARs and 5 cans. I haven’t shot any of them indoors or in a shelter.
     
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    NCFubar Well-Known Member

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    The only suppressed SBR I’ve felt comfortable with firing in a shoot house with no hearing protection is a .300BO with subsonics and the report still did bounce around enough to be loud ... no deafening but enough to take a break regularly.
     
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    Ikarus1 Avtomat Krishna-kov

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    5 dB is huge in perceived loudness above 125dB...huge! I learned that in IASCA competition many years ago. The AK is just loud af
     
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    fieldgrade resident crank Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    You’re not far from Fuquay Gun. They are a class 3 dealer and can hook you up. They’ll do the paper legwork in the price of the can.
     
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    NCFubar Well-Known Member

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    The dB scale is not linear ... it’s exponential type function ... as Ikarus points out a small dB can be a huge “loudness” increase depending on where you fall on the scale ... 498C27B9-96BE-45BE-BAED-701243D10AB8.jpeg
     
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    drumsarereallycool New Member

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    Thank you for the suggestions and additional info!
     
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    The only REAL way to suppress an AK is the way Aklys Defense did it with their AKSV. I say that will lots of love for the platform. It just wasn't a system consideration in 1945 when the AK was on the drawing board.

    https://aklysdefense.com/index.php/component/mijoshop/product/114-aklys-aksv

    and some of this:

    https://www.venturamunitions.com/brown-bear-7-62x39-196gr-subsonic-bimetal-fmj-ammo-20-rounds/

    I've suppressed many AK's for customers and it's underwhelming when you hear what the AR/300BLK combo achieves with the same suppressor unit on the front. I still use them and love them for flash hiding and low light training to maintain vision.
     
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    How well does a piston AR, ie. Adams Arms, suppress compared to an AK?
     
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    I'm not sure. I missed the piston AR phase but it's never apples to apples when comparing the two systems.

    There are subsonic loads for the AK that will cycle the gun with no issue and will keep the perceived report as quiet as a properly suppressed AR15 in 5.56 with supersonic ammo. The 3,000fps 5.56 cracking the sound barrier is loud and suppressor can't address that issue. There is no subsonic 5.56 that can reliably cycle an AR15 in DI or piston to my knowledge.

    Will a 7.62x39mm piston AR15 be as loud as an AK when using the same suppressor and ammo? Hum....
     
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    I picked up an AA 16" 5.56 to try one of my cans on it. I need to get a TBAC barrel adapter.