Suppressor ready Henry. Seriously.

Is std velocity 22lr designed for 16" bbls?
I bet there is an optimum length bbl for the 1050 fps velocity/powder charge.
I recall the .22 doesn't pick up anything from a barrel longer than 5"
 
Just out of curiosity, do you think this has anything to do with the current effort to remove suppressors from the NFA?
First Ruger comes out with an internally suppressed 10/22 barrel, now Henry jumping into the mix.

Maybe this is an indication of good things to come?
 
I would love to see 357 and 44 models come pre-threaded for a suppressor. I imagine they'd be nice and quiet with subsonic 38 special and 44 special loads.
 
Just out of curiosity, do you think this has anything to do with the current effort to remove suppressors from the NFA?
First Ruger comes out with an internally suppressed 10/22 barrel, now Henry jumping into the mix.

Maybe this is an indication of good things to come?

I hope so! I imagine the industry has their ears to the ground and is probably gearing up for changes that are likely to happen in the laws. I would love to see suppressors become more accessible to the public.
 
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I would love to see 357 and 44 models come pre-threaded for a suppressor. I imagine they'd be nice and quiet with subsonic 38 special and 44 special loads.

38spl in a suppressed levergun is silly movie quiet. One of my favorites.
Here is my stainless Rossi 357.
 
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Henry makes great guns, but having to pull the tube to load cartridges is incompatible with suppressors and they seem to have a strong aversion to loading gates.
 
Henry makes great guns, but having to pull the tube to load cartridges is incompatible with suppressors and they seem to have a strong aversion to loading gates.

That'd be why it has a long barrel. They can shorter up the tube mag and have room to work. Personally I'd rather load the tube than use a gate. But that's just me.
 
That'd be why it has a long barrel. They can shorter up the tube mag and have room to work. Personally I'd rather load the tube than use a gate. But that's just me.
That answers my question, "Why a 24" bbl and only 10rd tube??!", but any longer of a tube and the can would interfere with reloading. Kind of sucks.

I'd certainly add one to the wish list if it had a 16-20" bbl... maybe one day.
 
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Well I did until you made me look! Nothing here for CCI-SV but it probably follows a very similar pattern flattening out at 10" or so.

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/22ME.html

Even the 60gr SSS doesn't flatten out at 10". That would be the best comparison to CCI SV, but we have no data.

I just go by many tears of shooting everything from sub-sonics to Vipers in everything from 3" barrels to 24" barrels.
There is something to be gained from a longer barrel, or Anschutz wouldn't be making barrels 23.5".
 
Even the 60gr SSS doesn't flatten out at 10". That would be the best comparison to CCI SV, but we have no data.

I just go by many tears of shooting everything from sub-sonics to Vipers in everything from 3" barrels to 24" barrels.
There is something to be gained from a longer barrel, or Anschutz wouldn't be making barrels 23.5".

Anschutz isn't looking for increased velocity, must be about site radius.
 
Anschutz isn't looking for increased velocity, must be about site radius.

Yes, that is one reason.
Lemme just make this short and sweet.
A long 22 barrel does something else to a 22 that can only be seen at long range. Especially with match ammo. My personal theory is lowers Standard Deviation.

I have seen a lot of guys talk about this subject. I don't see people hacking their barrels down either.

Also. The graph chart you posted shows all ammo except mini mag, with a discernable increase, up to and past 16", so I don't know why you said 10".
 
The long barrel appeals to the guys who were already buying longer barrels to shoot subs from because of reduced report. The length helps make it more quiet in addition to allowing it to be loaded.

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24" barrel - wonder why they didn't choose to go a little shorter.

From reading, it appears that a shorter barrel would require removal of the suppressor to load the feed tube. The longer barrel gives clearance for loading without removal.

"Before this model’s introduction using a suppressor on a Henry rifle meant visits to a gunsmith for barrel threading and having to remove the suppressor every time the rifle needed to be reloaded. The Frontier Threaded Barrel 24″ model solves both of these issues with two distinct features, both of which make for a convenient way to use a silencer."

At least that's my takeaway from the above.
 
Yes, that is one reason.
Lemme just make this short and sweet.
A long 22 barrel does something else to a 22 that can only be seen at long range. Especially with match ammo. My personal theory is lowers Standard Deviation.

I have seen a lot of guys talk about this subject. I don't see people hacking their barrels down either.

Also. The graph chart you posted shows all ammo except mini mag, with a discernable increase, up to and past 16", so I don't know why you said 10".

Lots of talk of barrel harmonics amoung 22 target shooters, maybe the longer barrels are better for optimizing. I obviously don't know, but also accept that there are benefits.

For the chart there is acceleration for most past 10", but I deem it mostly immaterial. 10" seems to be where the chart generally starts to level out for most of the rounds. Maybe my materiality threshold is off, but it seems that the increase from 10" to the end of the chart is 0% to something less than 10%.
 
I once had a Winchester Model 53 in .32-20 with a muzzle modified to mount an older suppressor (like a Maxim or some such). When I talked to people about it at that time (about 10 years ago), a lot of old timers told me that suppressed .32-20 was very popular on ranches for varmint dispatching before the NFA. So, the suppressor ready Henry, for me, hearkens back to that time period. I just might have to get one.

I have been tempted to follow Slacker's lead in a suppressed .357 lever gun. Still might do that.
 
Slacker's Rossi is so accurate and quiet, its actually a bit hard to put down. Really much funner and practical than you would think.
 
I really really want to thread a .38/357 lever gun.
I've got a Marlin that I've been planning to do for a year now, can't make the final decision to cut on it so should probably buy a Rossi that I won't feel at all bad about.
 
I've got a Marlin that I've been planning to do for a year now, can't make the final decision to cut on it so should probably buy a Rossi that I won't feel at all bad about.

Exactly what I did.
Crazy thing is I like the Rossi better than the Marlin.
 
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I agree. But for pure squirrel dispatch and function it might be a good too. Not high on my list, but hey, it is another option. At least Henry is rolling out new stuff that appears to work and be of good quality.
 
I agree. But for pure squirrel dispatch and function it might be a good too. Not high on my list, but hey, it is another option. At least Henry is rolling out new stuff that appears to work and be of good quality.
No doubt, innovation is good. Which brings me to something like the maxim suppressor that had the off-center hole, I wonder if a can like that could have a 2-position mount, so shoot with the van down so you have access to the sights, then turn it 180 degrees so you have access to the tube for loading. Just an idea.
 
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Yeah... Looks silly. Like a suppressor-ready musket or something...
 
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Yeah... Looks silly. Like a suppressor-ready musket or something...

Yeah, someone photoshop a can onto it and then you might as well stand it up next to a wizard.
 
Suppressor ready musket!
Lol!!

I need to post pics of my threaded Marlin 30-30.

Do you run subsonic 30-30 through your mystic or do you run full power through a rifle can?
 
Surely, there's some kind of quick-release adapter for suppressors on the market?
3-lug adaptor, works well. However, after running a few dozen shots the can will be roughly hot enough to burn your fingerprints off.
 
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