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Pretty cool. A Harley that actually interests me...
There’s no ballistics, I mean 0-60 performance data, but at 105HP with “instant on” I’m thinking it probably hauls ass.
Unlike my last HD.
 
Sure with the instant torque of an electric motor it is going to be a screamer, but with the typical HD price tag I will wait until someone pays the depreciation and let's it sit a year in their garage:cool:
 
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$29,800, pricey, it'll be interesting to watch and see how this plays out for them.
 
The Livewire has been around a while, but this bicycle stuff is news to me
 
Looked at the specs on one a while ago. Very limited range, would not get me to Asheville and back without a recharge.
Needs about 400 miles more range. Asheville is only 60 miles one way for me.
CF
 
Are you supposed to make motorcycle noise with your mouth when you roll down Main Street at bike week?

“Blub blub blub blub...VRRRROOOMMM VVRRROOOOOMMMM!!!”

At least the big bad bikers will think you’re truly insane and won’t mess with you.
 
Looked at the specs on one a while ago. Very limited range, would not get me to Asheville and back without a recharge.
Needs about 400 miles more range. Asheville is only 60 miles one way for me.
CF

I have wondered whether there could be an aftermarket for a "side car" battery pack for greatly extended ranges.
 
I dont know details, but Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman rode them from southern end of South America to Northern California
 
Whippersnappers.
The solution to this problem is right here.

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Sure with the instant torque of an electric motor it is going to be a screamer, but with the typical HD price tag I will wait until someone pays the depreciation and let's it sit a year in their garage:cool:

I think it's about $35,000 or something ridiculous like that. They are definitely shooting for the millennial crowd. They will destroy their legacy and go by the wayside but that is how the world is. I do like their ebike designs and again, price will tell. Their target audience won't pay a premium for the Harley name.
 
With a convoy of power generation trucks following.

Well, they have much more time that most of us would have (the joys of being celebrities with plenty of money and time)
But their other two big trips (Long Way Down / Around) had them on their own for the majority. I dont know
 
I think it's about $35,000 or something ridiculous like that. They are definitely shooting for the millennial crowd. They will destroy their legacy and go by the wayside but that is how the world is. I do like their ebike designs and again, price will tell. Their target audience won't pay a premium for the Harley name.
Yep--don't mess with the secret sauce that made you famous.
 
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Well, they have much more time that most of us would have (the joys of being celebrities with plenty of money and time)
But their other two big trips (Long Way Down / Around) had them on their own for the majority. I dont know
The convoy stays out of the camera view angle!
 
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I think it's about $35,000 or something ridiculous like that. They are definitely shooting for the millennial crowd. They will destroy their legacy and go by the wayside but that is how the world is. I do like their ebike designs and again, price will tell. Their target audience won't pay a premium for the Harley name.
They had to make a Harley without a clutch, so younger people could ride.
CF
 
Except the young crowd isn't into the "secret sauce" hell, they aren't into motorcycles at all. The entire industry is feeling the hit on sales.
Let them go get their own "sauce." Don't sh!t on the people who've made you what you are. Drop a zero off those year end projections so you don't artificially make a "loss" just because you didn't bring in $50M where $48M will do (just picking numbers out of the air).

I hate to see companies--especially those with legendary roots--get misguided by some suit who chases the dollar rather than preserves that legend.

Star Wars and that grocery store mom they put in charge of things...here's looking at you.

And for the record, I'm just a few steps above "loathing" motorcycles and the majority wannabe crowd. But I'll give respect where it's due. H-D has a legend behind it's name, and now they’re greatly risking its status.
 
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The convoy stays out of the camera view angle!
have you read the books or seen the shows?
They are on their own, they break down and have to sort it out themselves etc
 
have you read the books or seen the shows?
They are on their own, they break down and have to sort it out themselves etc
Nope. I'm just stringing you along with some bait to see how long I can keep you riled up. Don't have any rhyme or reason for it! So far you've lasted two cups of coffee!
 
Nope. I'm just stringing you along with some bait to see how long I can keep you riled up. Don't have any rhyme or reason for it! So far you've lasted two cups of coffee!
riled up? lol ok
If that's riled up then maybe you shouldnt be having two cups of coffee a day. nutjob.
 
One of my Bestest Pards was the HD dealer in Murder Beach [actually Murrells Inlet] for 23 years. Needless to say RS and I have had a bucha them. In 1994 HD total production including exports was 70,000 units total. Six years later it was 300,000. They went from Wait Lists and pre paid deposits to get on a wait list to a glut of product. Some dealers, ours included , charged a 30% over MSRP when things were bustin it. This on top of a 30% built in net. My friend in 1994 received 52 motorcycles in total for his show room from HD. In those days you only bought the first one after that you simply traded up. They were bringing more than MSRP on the secondary market. My Pard would let us have anything we wanted so we tried a lot. We owned all but the tourers.
He saw what was coming and sold out in 1998. He Killed it. He opened a gun store and indoor range. We all know the ups and downs of the retail gun business.
Just in closing...the last year he was in business in his little dealership he had a net profit of $375,000 from T Shirt sales alone. Lots more folks had $22 than $22,000.
 
One of my Bestest Pards was the HD dealer in Murder Beach [actually Murrells Inlet] for 23 years. Needless to say RS and I have had a bucha them. In 1994 HD total production including exports was 70,000 units total. Six years later it was 300,000. They went from Wait Lists and pre paid deposits to get on a wait list to a glut of product. Some dealers, ours included , charged a 30% over MSRP when things were bustin it. This on top of a 30% built in net. My friend in 1994 received 52 motorcycles in total for his show room from HD. In those days you only bought the first one after that you simply traded up. They were bringing more than MSRP on the secondary market. My Pard would let us have anything we wanted so we tried a lot. We owned all but the tourers.
He saw what was coming and sold out in 1998. He Killed it. He opened a gun store and indoor range. We all know the ups and downs of the retail gun business.
Just in closing...the last year he was in business in his little dealership he had a net profit of $375,000 from T Shirt sales alone. Lots more folks had $22 than $22,000.

I don't think you can get a t-shirt at a HD dealer for $22 now? I've got a weekend warrior pirate friend that always wants me to stop in HD dealers when I'm on a motorcycle trip to get him a t-shirt. I tell him that you have to ride there yourself if you want the shirt. He has a '09 RK with 5k miles, '16 CVO RG with 3k miles and a '15 Yamaha FJR with 3k miles. He wears a lot of local t-shirts!
 
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One of my Bestest Pards was the HD dealer in Murder Beach [actually Murrells Inlet] for 23 years. Needless to say RS and I have had a bucha them. In 1994 HD total production including exports was 70,000 units total. Six years later it was 300,000. They went from Wait Lists and pre paid deposits to get on a wait list to a glut of product. Some dealers, ours included , charged a 30% over MSRP when things were bustin it. This on top of a 30% built in net. My friend in 1994 received 52 motorcycles in total for his show room from HD. In those days you only bought the first one after that you simply traded up. They were bringing more than MSRP on the secondary market. My Pard would let us have anything we wanted so we tried a lot. We owned all but the tourers.
He saw what was coming and sold out in 1998. He Killed it. He opened a gun store and indoor range. We all know the ups and downs of the retail gun business.
Just in closing...the last year he was in business in his little dealership he had a net profit of $375,000 from T Shirt sales alone. Lots more folks had $22 than $22,000.

I mentioned in another thread recently that I came up in the motorcycle world. My granddad (rest in peace Pop) rode, my dad, my (biological) mom.
My mother's bike was on the cover of Easyriders. My dads partner's bike was on the cover too. My dad built the Coke bike...it was on display at the Olympics, even made the cover of USA Today lol
I volunteered with Easyriders about 5 times at various shows helping behind the tables and stuff. It was just what I came up with.
Hell, both of my parents were, at different times, Roy's Folks (for those here in the Triad) because of Harleys.

I remember the days of Tilley's in Stateville being a tiny place WAY out in the middle of nowhere.
I remember when their Salisbury location was smaller than my home...if I just counted my lower level.
I remember the days of months of wait lists.

Then HD changed. Increased production and rules on their dealers (have to be right off of highways etc...I get it, it's convenient and all, but still).
HD became cool.


HD has made some blunders, killing off Buell being a huge one. They had a company that appealed to the youth (dont get me wrong, I see a lot of 20 somethings riding Harleys). They sold off MV for nothing, losing gosh knows how many millions.

But theyre trying, again, to change some of their business.
With the livewire and the three other bikes they debuted a while back as prototypes I am glad they are reaching out some.
I hope that these will take off, I fear that too many of the HD die hards will reject it all for being different. Much like many looked down on Buell and many looked down on the VRod.

But, yeah, good to see HD trying to venture out!
 
One of my Bestest Pards was the HD dealer in Murder Beach [actually Murrells Inlet] for 23 years. Needless to say RS and I have had a bucha them. In 1994 HD total production including exports was 70,000 units total. Six years later it was 300,000. They went from Wait Lists and pre paid deposits to get on a wait list to a glut of product. Some dealers, ours included , charged a 30% over MSRP when things were bustin it. This on top of a 30% built in net. My friend in 1994 received 52 motorcycles in total for his show room from HD. In those days you only bought the first one after that you simply traded up. They were bringing more than MSRP on the secondary market. My Pard would let us have anything we wanted so we tried a lot. We owned all but the tourers.
He saw what was coming and sold out in 1998. He Killed it. He opened a gun store and indoor range. We all know the ups and downs of the retail gun business.
Just in closing...the last year he was in business in his little dealership he had a net profit of $375,000 from T Shirt sales alone. Lots more folks had $22 than $22,000.
Crazy crazy.
I got in before the crazy. My one and only was bought new in 1985 when the MSRP on a Low Glide (rubber glide) FXRS was $8500 and you could buy them for $7500. Probably same for Low Riders.
 
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I read the performance specs on this bike a few months ago and I wasn't impressed. If I recall, the 0 - 60 time was around 3 secs. That's certainly not slow, but for the money HD is asking, I would stick to a litre+ gas burner.

Although I would no longer ride a superbike at my age, if you really want to go hyper fast, get a Kawasaki H2 or H2R or something similar.
 
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