This Apartment complex is Anti-2A

When they knock on your door, you should just open it wearing a hoodie with a banana in your pocket presses out like in the movies and tell the land lord ā€œIā€™m the one with a gun pointed at your belly, WTF you gonna do about it? Go make me some bacon and eggs, b!$(&ā€ and say bitch like Jesse from breaking bad.

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fieldgrade said:
From US News...

The Fair Housing Act was originally enacted in 1968 and protects against housing discrimination based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, disability or family status. Gun ownership is not a protected class under fair housing laws and is therefore subject to potential restrictions or laws based on the state.
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Seriously, if anybody wants to get registered as maybe a religious org so that we can go tax-exempt, our "tithe" can be ammo money, and we can have the loudest bbqs west of the -stans... i'm down.

gunbelt said:
Guns are my religion. Praise JMB!
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pretty much. I was seriously thinking about The Church of Browning, but didn't want to exclude the Branch Gastonians or the Coltolics.
 
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gc70 said:
Sorry, but the Bill of Rights sets limits on governments, not individuals or private businesses.

At my house (or your house), there are no 1st Amendment rights. Say something I don't like and you will shut up or leave. Do anything religious that I don't like, you'll quit or leave. And you don't have 2nd Amendment rights at my house unless I say so.

The bottom line is that some things have been defined in law as discrimination when done on the basis of certain motivating factors, but none of those laws encompass the 2nd Amendment. If a private property owner wants to include 2A restrictions in a lease, they can if anyone is dumb enough to sign the lease.
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I see your point. However, my occasional and temporary visits to your house are not the same as the rights to something like quiet enjoyment of the property I have leased for a fixed period of time. It would make an interesting court case. I believe one of the latest rulings from the Supreme Court established gun rights as individual rights.
 
wsfiredude said:
Google Stafford Place Apartments W-S and post a review, including the photo.

While itā€™s certainly their right to decide what goes/does not go on their private property, you are well within your rights to post a truthful review about their policies.
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This is a good plan. Let folks know of this asshattery, and let decisions on how and where to spend money be the deciding factor.
 
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I live very close to that apartment complex, didnā€™t somebody get stabbed there a couple months ago? The lady that runs the Walmart gas station right down the street was talking about it.
 
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I just don't see when you rent out living space the renter forfeits Constitutional Rights... It is totally different than visitors to your home.

What would be said if your mortgage company said 'no firearms'?
 
When you lease an apartment, that unit essentially becomes your property as long as you're paying the bills. Your rights are secure within your dwelling, and that should include the right to own and store firearms on the premises.

The comparison to the rights you have while visiting someone else's home isn't a fair comparison.
 
wsfiredude said:
Google Stafford Place Apartments W-S and post a review, including the photo.

While itā€™s certainly their right to decide what goes/does not go on their private property, you are well within your rights to post a truthful review about their policies.
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It is likely illegal. An apartment is a home. They cannot require any renter to surrender any rights as a condition of leasing.
This policy is completely insane too.
They area advertising that the complex is a safe workplace for criminals.
The only firearms clause I ever saw was no firearms discharge in common areas. But that is in line with local ordinances.

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dmarbell said:
I see your point. However, my occasional and temporary visits to your house are not the same as the rights to something like quiet enjoyment of the property I have leased for a fixed period of time. It would make an interesting court case. I believe one of the latest rulings from the Supreme Court established gun rights as individual rights.
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What are someone's "rights" to property they rent or lease? To begin with, a prospective occupant has no rights whatsoever to property before it is rented or leased. Nearly all of an occupant's rights to the property arise from the terms of the lease or rental agreement.

The big exception to specific lease and rental agreement terms involves the implied warranty of habitability, which includes the implied covenant of quiet enjoyment. Whether written into an agreement or not, courts will force property owners to ensure that leased or rented property can be inhabited. A subset of habitability is quiet enjoyment, which is the ability to possess property in peace, without disturbance by hostile claimants. Possessing property "in peace" and "without disturbance" does not invalidate the terms of lease or rental agreements, nor does it impede any operations of law.

Other than limited aspects in which anti-discrimination laws intervene in the owner-occupant relationship, the property owner sets the terms of the lease or rental agreement and the prospective occupant either accepts those terms or does not occupy the property. As an example, some lease or rental agreements prohibit smoking in a property; signing an agreement and moving into a property does not mean an occupant can then ignore that smoking restriction for the term of the agreement.
 
Does this place have private security? If not, when the criminals in Winston Salem find out it will be open season on the victims that live there. Hope they are prepared for a lawsuit if that should happen
 
All IMO, of course.

The wording states that the "rule" only applies to the "Home and Common" areas - given that these are capitalized, I would assume they are defined somewhere earlier in the lease agreement, and that they are probably the "public" areas of the complex - therefore this does not apply to your dwelling.

What it does imply, is that you can't take a rifle from your apartment to your car if it can be seen. If it's in a bag/case you're probably fine.

Still sucks though.
 
Iā€™m gonna stir some crap ...

Last summer I seem to remember an HOA (I think in the Charlotte area) posted ā€œNo Firearmsā€ in their common areas and walking paths ... and it was upheld ... how long before one tries the WHOLE community?
 
I say file a small claims court case for your moving expenses and show the judge the old lease and the eviction notice
 
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wsfiredude said:
Google Stafford Place Apartments W-S and post a review, including the photo.

While itā€™s certainly their right to decide what goes/does not go on their private property, you are well within your rights to post a truthful review about their policies.
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Including the fact that they change the lease terms without notification.
 
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