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I've got a pretty good size camper, 46 feet and 4 slides, and it ain't no place I want the wife to be mad at me in! Too small and I can't get away from a fight!
 
BigWaylon said:
Yeah, I wasn't thinking for the bed, as that's when you get into issues with height.

I was thinking of one section where you could store 2-4 of the under bed storage containers. You'd lose less than a foot of head clearance and have a decent square footage of storage. Just an idea.

Something with a small lip to hold either the plastic or fabric containers like these:
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There's a pull out under the steps up to the kitchen the length of the bed for storage too.
 
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concepthomes1 said:
What kind of wood stove in that Kitchen?

If your bed slides under that area, are you worried about heat transfer?
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It's called a Cubic Mini. It's about a foot cube. Really solid, real stove, just tiny. I have a stainless wall mount for it too... I burn 6-8" pieces of scrap oak flooring from work in it. Pretty awesome little stove. Not sure what you mean about heat transfer. If you look at the 3D rendering, the stove is on the wall above the countertop. Plus the size makes it a non-issue.

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https://cubicminiwoodstoves.com/products/cb-1008-br-cubic-mini-wood-stove
 
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Got the axles welded back in place this evening...

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Sadly the Jeep rims don't fit. Mounted one of the tires and tried to bolt it on. Rubs the frame and the springs... The ol' man is firmly anti-spacers, so I'm debating whether to fight him on it or just buy some new trailer rims...
 
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bigfelipe said:
Over the bathroom will be a storage loft. That's it. I'm not a little kid. I have no interest in climbing ladders to get into bed or down to piss in the middle of the night. Lol...
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Just put a window on your side of the bed. No need to get up. Just open the window and do the deed! Simple.
 
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bigfelipe said:
Got the axles welded back in place this evening...

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Sadly the Jeep rims don't fit. Mounted one of the tires and tried to bolt it on. Rubs the frame and the springs... The ol' man is firmly anti-spacers, so I'm debating whether to fight him on it or just buy some new trailer rims...
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I think that is a good call. Honestly I'm pretty anti spacer myself, it tends to wear wheel bearings prematurely.

Were the wheels rubbing or the tire?
 
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Did you throw just a little bit of lead in the axles when you welded the hangers? You typically want about an 1/8" difference in the hanger position with the left/driver's side being 1/8" further back than the right/passenger side. That will make the trailer try to track toward the center of the road with negates the effect of the road crown trying to throw it toward the ditch.
 
chrishf12 said:
I think that is a good call. Honestly I'm pretty anti spacer myself, it tends to wear wheel bearings prematurely.

Were the wheels rubbing or the tire?
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Put a rim on bare. Had about 1" between the frame and rim... Worth a shot. I'll find someone who can use the rims unless you want them back.
 
Don said:
Did you throw just a little bit of lead in the axles when you welded the hangers? You typically want about an 1/8" difference in the hanger position with the left/driver's side being 1/8" further back than the right/passenger side. That will make the trailer try to track toward the center of the road with negates the effect of the road crown trying to throw it toward the ditch.
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Very interesting, didnt know that was done.
 
Don said:
Did you throw just a little bit of lead in the axles when you welded the hangers? You typically want about an 1/8" difference in the hanger position with the left/driver's side being 1/8" further back than the right/passenger side. That will make the trailer try to track toward the center of the road with negates the effect of the road crown trying to throw it toward the ditch.
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That right there, ladies and gentlemen, is expert knowledge and the voice of experience.
 
Don said:
Did you throw just a little bit of lead in the axles when you welded the hangers? You typically want about an 1/8" difference in the hanger position with the left/driver's side being 1/8" further back than the right/passenger side. That will make the trailer try to track toward the center of the road with negates the effect of the road crown trying to throw it toward the ditch.
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No. Squared it up like it was before, just with more spread. It's not going to see much travel. I'm not overly concerned with how it handles.
 
Well the wheel bearing have been flushed clean and repacked. Ordered new rims today. Anyone need some Jeep rims, lol? Also ran the main wiring for the trailer lights and the ground for the brakes. Early next week, I'll clean out the drums/brakes and put the hubs back together. Then we'll wrap up the wiring and be ready to start working with wood...
 
fieldgrade said:
wood is good. I hate working with all that other crap.
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There's going to be some metal framing for the bathroom wall and the kitchen floor will be supported by angle iron to keep it thin and strong. Plus a standing seam metal roof... and a mess of straps and hangers and brackets to make it structurally sound and roadworthy... So I guess I won't be done with metal yet...
 
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bigfelipe said:
Well the wheel bearing have been flushed clean and repacked. Ordered new rims today. Anyone need some Jeep rims, lol? Also ran the main wiring for the trailer lights and the ground for the brakes. Early next week, I'll clean out the drums/brakes and put the hubs back together. Then we'll wrap up the wiring and be ready to start working with wood...
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If you are going to be using LED trailer lights, I recommend running an actual ground wire for the lights from the pigtail and not using the frame as a ground. I have found this helps prevent issues on aluminum boat trailers. The LED lights can be sensitives sense they use such little current.
 
lowcountry said:
If you are going to be using LED trailer lights, I recommend running an actual ground wire for the lights from the pigtail and not using the frame as a ground. I have found this helps prevent issues on aluminum boat trailers. The LED lights can be sensitives sense they use such little current.
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Probably. Not overly concerned though. This isn't going to be a camper. I have no interest in touring the country in it. It's a financial means to an end and a fun project at the same time.
 
Well cleaned up the brakes and drums today...

Pretty sure that's only supposed to be 2 pieces not 3... Lucky for me there were a couple old spares around the shop to part out...

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Got the bearings back in and the hubs all back together...
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The rims I ordered won't be in for a couple weeks. Backorder or something. So we threw the little old wheels back on and got it off the stands for the time being.

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Once the wheels come in and we knock out the last bit of wiring, it's time to start building it up...
 
lowcountry said:
If you are going to be using LED trailer lights, I recommend running an actual ground wire for the lights from the pigtail and not using the frame as a ground. I have found this helps prevent issues on aluminum boat trailers. The LED lights can be sensitives sense they use such little current.
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Excellent point ! LEDs are the way to go if living on 12VDC. We've been in our fifth wheel for about 3 years now and replacing all the incandescents with LED lights is not easy with a simple frame ground. You will eventually run out of current on light runs of 4 or more. If you have the chance to run a ground, run it...it's much more efficient and safer too. I noticed that you saved that inverter. For Christ's sake use it. Bank a couple deep cycles and have 5 -6 hours of refrigeration, lighting and heat ( I know, you have wood, right?) when the AC juice goes away. I'm working on a hybrid system now to totally go off grid. Advances in that technology have come a long way. Right now I can live without power in winter for 9hrs, without running a generator. LOL...hate to throw a wrench into any plans ya have...just a thought.
 
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Hammer21b said:
It's hard getting away from someone in 300sq feet! Jus sayin!
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LOL...this is true. BUT ! When I think about satisfying your biggest debt, having less space to collect more "stuff" you don't really need and paying utility bills that a normal home owner would die to have? No brainer dood. If it's just you and the missus or you two and one infant maybe? It's the way to go. Get away from temptation and competition. Buy a lil piece of land and live together, get ta know one another. Don't waste that time trying to "make a better life". Live the one ya have with the one ya love while you can.
Heck, I know that's old people speak to ya, and its your life. Live it as you see best.
 
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MuzzerFuzzer said:
Excellent point ! LEDs are the way to go if living on 12VDC. We've been in our fifth wheel for about 3 years now and replacing all the incandescents with LED lights is not easy with a simple frame ground. You will eventually run out of current on light runs of 4 or more. If you have the chance to run a ground, run it...it's much more efficient and safer too. I noticed that you saved that inverter. For Christ's sake use it. Bank a couple deep cycles and have 5 -6 hours of refrigeration, lighting and heat ( I know, you have wood, right?) when the AC juice goes away. I'm working on a hybrid system now to totally go off grid. Advances in that technology have come a long way. Right now I can live without power in winter for 9hrs, without running a generator. LOL...hate to throw a wrench into any plans ya have...just a thought.
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MuzzerFuzzer said:
LOL...this is true. BUT ! When I think about satisfying your biggest debt, having less space to collect more "stuff" you don't really need and paying utility bills that a normal home owner would die to have? No brainer dood. If it's just you and the missus or you two and one infant maybe? It's the way to go. Get away from temptation and competition. Buy a lil piece of land and live together, get ta know one another. Don't waste that time trying to "make a better life". Live the one ya have with the one ya love while you can.
Heck, I know that's old people speak to ya, and its your life. Live it as you see best.
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I have the panel from the RV. I'm replacing the converter with a newer more efficient model. I only have one big deep cycle for it at the moment, but plan on setting it up for a bank(with solar in the future maybe). We'll be primarily grid-tied. So we'll be doing a combo of 120 and 12v lighting. I'll run LED strips and panels mostly(I do this in bars and clubs, so I know the tech), with a few 120v LED fixtures too. Will be putting a mini-split HVAC system in for primary heat/AC. We decided against reusing the old furnace as they're less efficient. The stove is gas, the fridge is dual gas/electric, and we'll have the wood stove for back-up/off-grid heat. There will also be 12v fans installed to keep air moving and a passive air exchanger.


It's just me, my woman, and our dog. It's going to be tight, but we'll be on her folks property. So, we'll have other resources for getting space. I think we can put enough money together in a year to buy a piece of land and start building the end goal property, but that's another thread for then...
 
bigfelipe said:
I have the panel from the RV. I'm replacing the converter with a newer more efficient model. I only have one big deep cycle for it at the moment, but plan on setting it up for a bank(with solar in the future maybe). We'll be primarily grid-tied. So we'll be doing a combo of 120 and 12v lighting. I'll run LED strips and panels mostly(I do this in bars and clubs, so I know the tech), with a few 120v LED fixtures too. Will be putting a mini-split HVAC system in for primary heat/AC. We decided against reusing the old furnace as they're less efficient. The stove is gas, the fridge is dual gas/electric, and we'll have the wood stove for back-up/off-grid heat. There will also be 12v fans installed to keep air moving and a passive air exchanger.


It's just me, my woman, and our dog. It's going to be tight, but we'll be on her folks property. So, we'll have other resources for getting space. I think we can put enough money together in a year to buy a piece of land and start building the end goal property, but that's another thread for then...
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Man you're on the right track to real happiness.
 
I've got 2 cell banks already with two more comin. Found a local guy that has 6v decalcifieds for $43. I'll have eight. I just acquired enuff sections for a 47 foot tower e and the next buy is a 2KW turbine. I have a 400 watt already...but meh...it'll stay in the box and get gone. I've got a new 6kw 12/120 pure sine wave inverter and I'll split it off a 24v system with it's own inverter. Hopin to be freeish from the grid by end of fall.
 
Don said:
Did you throw just a little bit of lead in the axles when you welded the hangers? You typically want about an 1/8" difference in the hanger position with the left/driver's side being 1/8" further back than the right/passenger side. That will make the trailer try to track toward the center of the road with negates the effect of the road crown trying to throw it toward the ditch.
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So what happens when you drive in the left lane ? Or a highway like an interstate with 3 lanes that doesn't have much crown?

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MuzzerFuzzer said:
I've got 2 cell banks already with two more comin. Found a local guy that has 6v decalcifieds for $43. I'll have eight. I just acquired enuff sections for a 47 foot tower e and the next buy is a 2KW turbine. I have a 400 watt already...but meh...it'll stay in the box and get gone. I've got a new 6kw 12/120 pure sine wave inverter and I'll split it off a 24v system with it's own inverter. Hopin to be freeish from the grid by end of fall.
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I need to look at your setup. More and more I find myself wanting to get into something like that
 
Gator said:
So what happens when you drive in the left lane ? Or a highway like an interstate with 3 lanes that doesn't have much crown?
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As far as I know, it isn't a problem. My father's company built trailers from 1949 to around 1994 and that's the way they were set up.
 
OK... So been busy and haven't kept up. Last weekend things actually got started on the tiny...

New layout and design. I feel pretty good about this one. And we've begun the framing anyway... So this is the final basic layout... Widened it to 9' and went with a totally different concept after an epiphany about how to make it work without a loft. It's basically a split level with a staircase to the living room and a bedroom cubby underneath instead of lofted. This makes for more headroom and a more compact layout. I also consolidated the plumbing in the front of the trailer and reworked the kitchen.

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