Too much dry fire??

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So a few questions i was hoping the group could help with.

Im stuck overseas for a while which sucks.
What doesnt suck is i have my sirt 107 and lasr stuff with me with belt, holster, and mags.

Doing too much sirt work gonna hurt me in the long run?

Any tips for training on speeding up basic functions like draws etc?

Im way out of form and practice not being able to shoot due to mil training etc.

Current status is:
Drawing to an A 1sh shot about 1.30
Shot, reload shot about 1.6ish

Obviously the sirt trigger sucks but its hopefully gonna help me with trigger control

Any tricks, tips, or wisdom greatly appreciated.

Josh
 
1. Go online
2. Order Steve Anderson's book, "refinement and repetition"
Refine and repeat.

You can take the basic 12 drills and change them slightly to keep it interesting. Do these things until your brain will do them at blazing speed without thinking about it. You'll do great if you can make this a daily thing. There will be a little loss when you switch to your competition gun, but the skills will be there and you'll do well.
 
Biggest issue to me would be the risk of developing dry fire grip.

Dry fire grip- developing a loose grip due to dry fire with no live fire.

During dry fire crush your weak hand grip. Your forearm should be fatigued after 15-20min of constant dry fire.
 
slow is slow said:
1. Go online
2. Order Steve Anderson's book, "refinement and repetition"
Refine and repeat.

You can take the basic 12 drills and change them slightly to keep it interesting. Do these things until your brain will do them at blazing speed without thinking about it. You'll do great if you can make this a daily thing. There will be a little loss when you switch to your competition gun, but the skills will be there and you'll do well.
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I will check that out.
I have dryfire reloaded with me as well
 
Wolffy said:
Biggest issue to me would be the risk of developing dry fire grip.

Dry fire grip- developing a loose grip due to dry fire with no live fire.

During dry fire crush your weak hand grip. Your forearm should be fatigued after 15-20min of constant dry fire.
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Thanks for the tip. I will keep that in mind when i am dry firing as its an easy thing to forget without the recoil

Id love to work my draw and presentation down and obviously reloads etc.
Its hard to keep yourself honest with transitions with the sirt pistol. Its easier to track the laser than the sights so im forcing myself to watch the sights instead.

Any pointers for whittling down those actions?
 
Experiment and see what works best for you. I shoot a lot of steel challenge, where draw is incredibly important because of the number of times you do it in a match. I find that if i can tension (sorry, only way i know to explain it...similar i guess to flexing) my gun side shoulder, while leaving my hands relaxed and in the surrender position, I can nail my grip and keep my first shots around the 1 second mark more often than if I don't. But I only found this out by putting myself on the timer and intentionally testing out and logging small nuances in my draw. If time if something you are blessed with, try a couple different approaches for a few days and see which feels the best and gives the best results on the timer, then refine that and ingrain that draw into your brain as hard as possible.
 
slow is slow said:
Experiment and see what works best for you. I shoot a lot of steel challenge, where draw is incredibly important because of the number of times you do it in a match. I find that if i can tension (sorry, only way i know to explain it...similar i guess to flexing) my gun side shoulder, while leaving my hands relaxed and in the surrender position, I can nail my grip and keep my first shots around the 1 second mark more often than if I don't. But I only found this out by putting myself on the timer and intentionally testing out and logging small nuances in my draw. If time if something you are blessed with, try a couple different approaches for a few days and see which feels the best and gives the best results on the timer, then refine that and ingrain that draw into your brain as hard as possible.
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I will give that a shot and see what works. Im shooting uspsa so my draw speed isnt as crucial as in steel challenge but time shaved is time off the clock
 
If uspsa is the game you are focusing on, work HEAVILY on gun up and firing as soon as possible while coming into position. Transitions are also a big place to gain time. Draw and splits will not be the low hanging fruit you seek. Do a lot of your dryfire while practicing movement.
 
slow is slow said:
If uspsa is the game you are focusing on, work HEAVILY on gun up and firing as soon as possible while coming into position. Transitions are also a big place to gain time. Draw and splits will not be the low hanging fruit you seek. Do a lot of your dryfire while practicing movement.
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Will do. Time to get organized and working.....the sirt with the lasr software is fun but if your not careful it gets really easy to play rather than train on lol.
 
Outcrydrummer said:
Its hard to keep yourself honest with transitions with the sirt pistol. Its easier to track the laser than the sights so im forcing myself to watch the sights instead. Any pointers for whittling down those actions?
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I also have the SIRT 107. You can adjust when the prep laser activates, so you can release both the trigger and prep lasers and that might help you stop tracking the lasers. I can't find the Quick Start Guide that came with my trainer on the Nextleveltraining.com site. If you don't have yours with you, I can scan it and upload it here or email/pm it to you.

The advice about gripping hard when training with this type of gun is on target. It's easy to lazily draw the gun and pretend you can pull the trigger and keep the lasers on track if you don't have recoil.
 
dmarbell said:
I also have the SIRT 107. You can adjust when the prep laser activates, so you can release both the trigger and prep lasers and that might help you stop tracking the lasers. I can't find the Quick Start Guide that came with my trainer on the Nextleveltraining.com site. If you don't have yours with you, I can scan it and upload it here or email/pm it to you.

The advice about gripping hard when training with this type of gun is on target. It's easy to lazily draw the gun and pretend you can pull the trigger and keep the lasers on track if you don't have recoil.
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Do you mean release the fire and prep laser like cutting them off?

I did some training with it today with the dryfire reloaded drills and gripped the heck out the supoort hand and actually for once tracked the sights all day.

Does your trigger also feel like a crappy version of a stock glock?

I wish they had an rmr cut on them as well......i shoot an m&p platform for limited and wanted to start carry optics when i get back.
I guess with a file a i could rmr cut it myself lmao
 
Outcrydrummer said:
Do you mean release the fire and prep laser like cutting them off?

I did some training with it today with the dryfire reloaded drills and gripped the heck out the supoort hand and actually for once tracked the sights all day.

Does your trigger also feel like a crappy version of a stock glock?

I wish they had an rmr cut on them as well......i shoot an m&p platform for limited and wanted to start carry optics when i get back.
I guess with a file a i could rmr cut it myself lmao
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I adjusted the prep laser so it activates when the take-up is fully engaged, and I can feel the "wall" of the trigger pull starting to build. That way the prep trigger goes off when I release the trigger to the reset. Yeah, the trigger is not the best but is good enough for tactile feedback, and the lasers are better than just assuming your sight alignment is good enough. At least, that's the theory. I went all in and bought an M&P M2.0 so when I go from the SIRT to a gun it will theoretically feel the same - I shoot IDPA. So far I haven't put in enough time with the laser pistol to tell if it's worth the money or not.
 
Got ya yeah my prep is set up the same way. With the software i just run the trigger laser anyways.
I run a gen 1 performance center 5" core thats got every aftermarket part known to man for my limited gun.
Probably gonna buy another 2.0 in a 5" model to shoot limited and make the gen 1 core the carry optics gun.

I bought a full size 2.0 for a carry gun. The sirt 107 feels identical to all my m&p's i own so your presentation should be spot on with the sirt 107.
 
So far I haven't put in enough time with the laser pistol to tell if it's worth the money or not.[/QUOTE]

So i broke mine today lmao. Well atleast messed it up a little.
Trigger weight is no longer responding to ajsustment and suddenly goes from full out 10lb trigger pull to no break in the trigger at all.
Gonna try and pull it apart tomorrow and get it fixed, i cant ship it out from here for repair.
 
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