Top Gun: Maverick

Hollywood has officially jumped the shark. There's not a new idea coming out of any of the old 'mainstream' studios. That's why AMC and the streaming services are eating their lunch.

Except for the Lion King breaking opening weekend records, Toy Story 4 making an obscene amount of money; and Avengers: Endgame becoming the highest grossing movie of all time.

Hollywood has learned that consumers are fine and willing to spend money on tickets to movies on which they are familiar with the characters. They aren’t in the “new idea” business, they are in the “stacking dollars” business.


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Except for the Lion King breaking opening weekend records, Toy Story 4 making an obscene amount of money; and Avengers: Endgame becoming the highest grossing movie of all time.

Hollywood has learned that consumers are fine and willing to spend money on tickets to movies on which they are familiar with the characters. They aren’t in the “new idea” business, they are in the “stacking dollars” business.


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Yep. Why take risks on new properties or artistic endeavors when you can reboot Spiderman again?
 
Remember "Top Gun 2" has been a thing for at least a decade or more. Tony Scott's suicide put a damper on it happening sooner.
 
Except for the Lion King breaking opening weekend records, Toy Story 4 making an obscene amount of money; and Avengers: Endgame becoming the highest grossing movie of all time.

Hollywood has learned that consumers are fine and willing to spend money on tickets to movies on which they are familiar with the characters. They aren’t in the “new idea” business, they are in the “stacking dollars” business.

I meant to preface that with (except for the Disney-Marvel-ABC monopoly)
 
You got a 40 year veteran who can't get past the rank of Captain. The ultimate man child.


A Navy Captain is the same rank as a full bird colonel in the other services.
 
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For all of you wondering bout the lack of promotion thing...


Or, if you prefer a more official response from the Navy:
https://news.usni.org/2019/07/22/na...-maverick-could-still-feel-the-need-for-speed

“Could a real-world Capt. Mitchell still fly missions 33 years after audiences first saw the iconic naval aviator buzz control towers in the 1986 blockbuster “Top Gun”?

The short answer is yes, the Navy Personnel Command told USNI News on Monday. However, the scenarios run from unlikely to far-fetched.

The most straightforward answer to have a captain with 35-plus years of service is for the captain to have previous enlisted experience. In the case of Maverick, this scenario doesn’t fit with the movie’s timeline – Maverick was a lieutenant in 1986.

Another possible scenario occurs if there’s a break in service. For instance, perhaps at some point after the famous incident involving MiGs of uncertain origin over the Indian Ocean, as depicted in the first “Top Gun,” Maverick left active duty and did some time in the Navy Reserve. Then later, he returned to active duty. With more than five years in the reserves, Maverick could be pushing 37 years in uniform.

The final scenario for Maverick would be if he were retired but retained in service, a scenario that keeps individuals in uniform after reaching their statutory retirement. Generally speaking, cases of individuals being retired but retained are rare, but not unheard of, according to Naval Personnel Command.”
 
For all of you wondering bout the lack of promotion thing...


Or, if you prefer a more official response from the Navy:
https://news.usni.org/2019/07/22/na...-maverick-could-still-feel-the-need-for-speed

“Could a real-world Capt. Mitchell still fly missions 33 years after audiences first saw the iconic naval aviator buzz control towers in the 1986 blockbuster “Top Gun”?

The short answer is yes, the Navy Personnel Command told USNI News on Monday. However, the scenarios run from unlikely to far-fetched.

The most straightforward answer to have a captain with 35-plus years of service is for the captain to have previous enlisted experience. In the case of Maverick, this scenario doesn’t fit with the movie’s timeline – Maverick was a lieutenant in 1986.

Another possible scenario occurs if there’s a break in service. For instance, perhaps at some point after the famous incident involving MiGs of uncertain origin over the Indian Ocean, as depicted in the first “Top Gun,” Maverick left active duty and did some time in the Navy Reserve. Then later, he returned to active duty. With more than five years in the reserves, Maverick could be pushing 37 years in uniform.

The final scenario for Maverick would be if he were retired but retained in service, a scenario that keeps individuals in uniform after reaching their statutory retirement. Generally speaking, cases of individuals being retired but retained are rare, but not unheard of, according to Naval Personnel Command.”

Probably came back after 9/11.
 
Not CPTs, but there are plenty of CAPTs with 30+ yrs of service.
But very few that haven’t been selected for flag rank and fewer still on flight status. And almost none on combat fighter flight status.
 
Are y’all still arguing details about a character’s rank in a movie? :rolleyes:

Let’s at least move on to unlimited ammo without reloads and unrealistic silencer sounds. :p
 
Except for the Lion King breaking opening weekend records, Toy Story 4 making an obscene amount of money; and Avengers: Endgame becoming the highest grossing movie of all time.

Hollywood has learned that consumers are fine and willing to spend money on tickets to movies on which they are familiar with the characters. They aren’t in the “new idea” business, they are in the “stacking dollars” business.


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The Lion King has surpassed $1 billion, yes, billion with a "b". I was watching a Cary Grant movie the other day, My Favorite Wife, which was RKO's second-highest grossing film of that year, which made $505,000. To be fair, one of his earlier films netted $2 million by the end of the year. And how much did he make? When he was freelance he was making about $300K a year. His 4-year/4-film contract with Columbia was $50,000 for his first two movies and $75,00 for the last two.

Movies have gotten exponentially more costly to make, salaries are incredibly atmospheric, yet few can hold a candle to the quality of the Golden Age of cinema.
 
Are y’all still arguing details about a character’s rank in a movie? :rolleyes:

Let’s at least move on to unlimited ammo without reloads and unrealistic silencer sounds. :p
Thanks BW, gave me a good laugh.

It's a movie, not a documentary. Watch it to take a break from reality for 90 minutes

Dont get me wrong, Ive critiqued movies before, but some of yall are getting bent out of shape about a fictional characters rank like it's going to make you look bad or something
 
The Lion King has surpassed $1 billion, yes, billion with a "b". I was watching a Cary Grant movie the other day, My Favorite Wife, which was RKO's second-highest grossing film of that year, which made $505,000. To be fair, one of his earlier films netted $2 million by the end of the year. And how much did he make? When he was freelance he was making about $300K a year. His 4-year/4-film contract with Columbia was $50,000 for his first two movies and $75,00 for the last two.

Movies have gotten exponentially more costly to make, salaries are incredibly atmospheric, yet few can hold a candle to the quality of the Golden Age of cinema.


Oh, no doubt the Golden age was Golden.


I think the issue some have is they confuse art with entertainment. The movie industry is in the business of selling products, so they see what is selling, and that's where the money goes. The thing is, there are still extremely good movies getting made, they perform decently. They just don't get the press that the big blockbusters do. Just the other day I was talking to my older brother about how hard it is to find good music these days...and he said "It’s out there, you just have to look for it."


I also consider it like this…McDonalds is one of the most popular restaurants in the world. Makes a ton of money. Everyone knows about McDonalds. But there isn’t a single sane person that would rank it anywhere near the best food available.
 
Oh, no doubt the Golden age was Golden.


I think the issue some have is they confuse art with entertainment. The movie industry is in the business of selling products, so they see what is selling, and that's where the money goes. The thing is, there are still extremely good movies getting made, they perform decently. They just don't get the press that the big blockbusters do. Just the other day I was talking to my older brother about how hard it is to find good music these days...and he said "It’s out there, you just have to look for it."


I also consider it like this…McDonalds is one of the most popular restaurants in the world. Makes a ton of money. Everyone knows about McDonalds. But there isn’t a single sane person that would rank it anywhere near the best food available.

Oh, I wasn't arguing, I was supporting. I totally agree.
 
gotta say I’m really looking fwd to this one.
 
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Looks like a pretty solid cast. Curious what the story will be to make it entertaining. Looks like it could be a boring movie with little nostalgic tidbits to try to hide it... Who are they training to dogfight? Russians again? Hadji terrorists don't have planes. Doubt they'll make the Chinese the bad guys.

Guess we will see...
 
Looks like a pretty solid cast. Curious what the story will be to make it entertaining. Looks like it could be a boring movie with little nostalgic tidbits to try to hide it... Who are they training to dogfight? Russians again? Hadji terrorists don't have planes. Doubt they'll make the Chinese the bad guys.

Guess we will see...
They could do like red dawn amd make the bad guys the Chinese, then completely cave and cgi North Korean markings on the vehicles and uniforms. Wait.. does North Korea even have planes? :D
 
I played the trailer for the new movie for my mom last night. She is in her mid-70s and not doing so well healthwise. She was reminiscing about taking me to see the original all those years ago. It was one of her very favorite movies. She had a huge smile on her face after watching the trailer. I really hope She makes it till the new one comes out so I can take her. It will be A lot of fun.

lol i’ll have to take her to Starbucks first and pump her full of caffeine so she can stay awake through the whole thing. :D:p
 
Some cool behind the scenes stuff:


Lucky bastard getting all that seat time in an F-18.


That is awesome!! Some really cool jet footage. Glad to see they are using more real live footage than using the models for most of the movie.
 
Hollywood has officially jumped the shark. There's not a new idea coming out of any of the old 'mainstream' studios. That's why AMC and the streaming services are eating their lunch.

Yesterday and Jojo Rabbit are two fresh ideas and I really want to see both. I am guessing that many are like me and waiting to rent them as opposed to paying theater prices.

People only put butts in seats for big blockbuster movies that they suspect won’t disappoint.
 
Thought this was a decent explanation of some of the stuff in the new trailer...

 
No idea about this movie, but after watching the most recent mission impossible—which was surprisingly insanely good—I found out he does all of his own stunts. For that movie he literally learned how to fly a helicopter and was performing maneuvers that were, from what I read, serious for even an experienced pilot.

No idea how he could get F-18 qualified, but if it’s possible, then expect him to be actually flying it in some scenes.
I'll be damned if it doesn't really look like he's flying that Bug jet. They've got their act together with the visuals it seems.
 
Plot prediction:
Iran figures out how to make one of their ‘Cats more lethal or something. The US doesn’t like that. They try to send a drone to blow it up—an Iranian Tomcat blows it out of the sky. They decide the only way to take care of it is to sneak in the only guy on active duty that knows how to fly the crap out of a Tomcat. Since he’s been trained as n MP and a spy in other movies, Maverick is able to infiltrate the snowy mountain stronghold and steal the bird right out from under the Iranians.

Bam. Cut it. Print it.
That sounds like a Clint Eastwood movie to me.
 
No idea about this movie, but after watching the most recent mission impossible—which was surprisingly insanely good—I found out he does all of his own stunts. For that movie he literally learned how to fly a helicopter and was performing maneuvers that were, from what I read, serious for even an experienced pilot.
You’ll probably like this little story Matt Damon tells about talking to Tom regarding stunts. (<4 min)

 
Tom May be at the top of the stunt game compared to other actors, but I’ll be damn surprised if the Navy let him solo an F-18. My guess is they mocked up the back seat of a Super Bug to look like the driver’s seat and filmed the exterior “solo” shots with a combo of ground shots and CGI.

I guess there’s always the possibility of him taking 2-3 years to get qual’ed in the jet, but then to be able to fly like they’re showing, skimming tree tops and high-G banks/rolls—that takes years and thousands of hours to master.
 
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