That looks very pricey. Appears the pressure sensor is made into the line. So that's full ac service plus the cost of the line.
tracking down an AC leak on a Transit Connect, and that 'leak stop' stuff
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I just looked last night again after driving another 100 miles. It's right up against the firewall, something I checked with the light and sniffer in the first pass since it's close to where the junk is inside the passenger compartment.
I'd take it back to the dealer with proof of the leak. Confront them about it being outta freon, but not having a leak. Maybe they will split the cost of the repair, or maybe just fix it. No one knows until you ask. Worst they can say is kick rocks.
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They sell the sensors, presumably it's removable somehow.
Agree, give the dealer a call and ask first. Otherwise you can try this.
The sensor attaches at the schrader valve, disconnect the plug and you can unscrew the sensor without refrigerant loss.
I had a leaking low sensor on a '84 Tempo, easy to fix. Check the schrader to see if it is tight.
The sensor attaches at the schrader valve, disconnect the plug and you can unscrew the sensor without refrigerant loss.
I had a leaking low sensor on a '84 Tempo, easy to fix. Check the schrader to see if it is tight.
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I've got a call in to the general manager of the dealership, he called a while back about parts missing from the vehicle that they told me they would supply but that I suspect now they're not. The AC service was on the 'we owe' sheet, the missing parts were not. That's my fault for trusting.
If your close by, I could help ya out with the repair if the stealership says to kick rocks. I have the correct equipment to pull a vacuum on the system and charge it.
Make it so uncomfortable for the dealer that they fix it just to make you go away. Walking sandwich boards in front of the dealership with the message that the dealership is a liar and cant be trusted will turn heads and get things moving your way.
A guy I know bought a panel van for his service truck. Had problems from day one. Dealership wasn't helpful in resolvimg issues. He had sign printed with a lemon on it and sold by dealership on the side. The dealership begged him to take it down. He got them to fix the issues.
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A guy I know bought a panel van for his service truck. Had problems from day one. Dealership wasn't helpful in resolvimg issues. He had sign printed with a lemon on it and sold by dealership on the side. The dealership begged him to take it down. He got them to fix the issues.
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Unscrew it and screw on another one. Change the oring while your at it
If they put it in writing they need to give you the items that were missing, if they refuse, be nice and then
ask for a quote for the missing parts, they go to small claims and file for the quote. They will pay sooner or later.
ask for a quote for the missing parts, they go to small claims and file for the quote. They will pay sooner or later.
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Thanks, but I'm not close. I'm going to go see @Short Fuse here locally and give them some money. They treated me right last time, so I'm happy to support them.
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They left it out, I didn't catch it, so I'm SOL. Experience... the lesson comes after the test.
Talk to your salesman or woman, 'when can I stop by to get the stuff 'you owe' to me for my truck'?
You will need another truck some day.
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Started that route, been in text communication with the guy for the last 45 days or so, just checking on the order. Pretty sure that's why the manger called me, wanted to "wrap this up". He's back from vacation later this week so I'll get to talk live with him and see what's what.
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Thanks to the guys at Ten Ten automotive, I'm back in business with non-leaking AC. I picked up the sensor at the Ford dealership, but didn't get the $120 o-ring. They would only sell me the o-ring as part of the whole line assembly. Lame. Fortunately o-rings are not all made of unobtanium...
Ford changed the connector so they had to remove the original and replace it. I did not know that was needed, I didn't actually open the package on the new part and read the paperwork. Had I done that, I would have ordered that new connector and the damn o-ring which they list as a separate part right there. Ten Ten had both the missing parts and got me out of there this morning.
Ford changed the connector so they had to remove the original and replace it. I did not know that was needed, I didn't actually open the package on the new part and read the paperwork. Had I done that, I would have ordered that new connector and the damn o-ring which they list as a separate part right there. Ten Ten had both the missing parts and got me out of there this morning.
Ive been in the business for just about 40 years now, what I tell my customers when they come in for a low charged AC system is that they have a leak. Its somewhere in that system and if its not ready apparent but dirt sticking to the oil that's in there also, then what I going to have to do is a recharge with using the dye. I then explain that for X amount of dollars, Im going to recharge the system with using the dye and that will help pinpoint the leak that their system has in the future.. My recharge with dye is NOT a repair, its a detection tool and your system will degrade over time. When it quits blowing cold, come back in and see me. I will then give you an estimate to correct the current leak, but remember, your system can and will have future leaks because all the hoses and O rings are the same age and they will all deteriorate over time. I then explain that in the future they can have mechanical and electrical problems that will make the AC system not work and that it had nothing to do with the recharge/dye we performed today. I then show them how vulnerable their condenser is to road debris damage and that a recent puncture might mask their original leak their vehicle had. Once I explained all that to the customer, Ive never had anyone upset at me or thought I was trying to rip them off. Because its the truth and an educated vehicle owner now fully understands this. Like I tell them, cold air costs money unless its winter time..
Nobody, but NOBODY likes an expensive repair. But what they hate even more is the perception that they're being shafted, whether they are or not.
I like your philosophy of being up front and straight forward.
Ive found out that nothing makes someone lose their minds more then when its hot as heck out and their AC does not work. I had one of my service advisors come running out to me in tears saying this guy was out there yelling at about his AC not working and that we just "fixed" it 2 weeks ago. I told this guy the same thing as my post and I was a bit more then pissed. I stormed into the waiting room and told him follow me,, I then showed him the source of his leak using our x ray glasses and the UV light and lit into him. He backed down real quick and said " Im sorry Paul, yeah I remember everything you told me but its darn hot out there " I then made him apologize to my service advisor for making her cry. Then we repaired his vehicle and hes been a loyal customer ever since. Truth and honesty works every time with both parties. But, then again ? You still have to deal with crazy people, problem is,, they don't know they are crazy.
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Looks like the old connector too!
I was going to post a picture of the documentation that came with the new sensor that shows the new connector and o-ring part numbers in case someone finds this thread in the future. Guess I should get on that if there is going to be a plague of Transit Connects with bad AC.
Who makes the a/c stuff for these vans anyway?
I just had the Dodge dealer fix the a/c on my 2016 Ram Promaster City. After dancing all around they finally had to replace the 'main line'..whatever that means. It was a $750 part and for some reason they needed to remove the dash.
The bad-they had my work van for 3 days.
The good-it was covered under warranty.
Still a pita though.
I just had the Dodge dealer fix the a/c on my 2016 Ram Promaster City. After dancing all around they finally had to replace the 'main line'..whatever that means. It was a $750 part and for some reason they needed to remove the dash.
The bad-they had my work van for 3 days.
The good-it was covered under warranty.
Still a pita though.
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That makes me question the nature and cost of the repair. The sunroof in my RAV4 was rattling, apparently a known issue. Fix is to adjust the glass to track fit, known to come loose over time. It was under warranty so I just took it in and figured they could tighten it up since you were putting screws to glass and that could go badly if over-torqued. $1400 and 3 days later it was fixed, billed to Toyota. I'm pretty sure you don't need to replace everything inside the roof, but that's what they did because big daddy T was paying.
Continuing to de-rail my own thread, how do you like the Ram? I went with the older gen Transit Conenct because it was larger inside than the new ones, but if I was going newer I was seriously leaning toward the Ram. Better power, mpg, lower cost than the ford or Nissan. 8-speed auto had me kinda worried though, and I've never owned a Dodge so had no idea how they were to work on parts and labor wise.
Overall I like the Ram. By far best part is the motor; 2.4 liter dual ram air flat out gets it down the road. Very zippy. 25mpg. Great suspension and 16" tires. Best payload capacity.
The 9 speed transmission does not like the mountains. It never knows what gear it wants to be in, so I'm always on the manual over-ride. The independent suspension handles the mountain twisty's very well though.
But the motor is outstanding. I lined up against a co-worker in our full size Chevy van with a 400ci V8 and stayed right beside him.
My mechanic that does all our service likes working on it, everything is easy to get to.
It's not really a Dodge, it's a Fiat. But if I had to buy another mini van, it would be another one of these.
The 9 speed transmission does not like the mountains. It never knows what gear it wants to be in, so I'm always on the manual over-ride. The independent suspension handles the mountain twisty's very well though.
But the motor is outstanding. I lined up against a co-worker in our full size Chevy van with a 400ci V8 and stayed right beside him.
My mechanic that does all our service likes working on it, everything is easy to get to.
It's not really a Dodge, it's a Fiat. But if I had to buy another mini van, it would be another one of these.