Trump Administration Eases Small Arms Export Rules, Kills Gunsmith Registration Tax

cubrock said:
The roots of that gunsmith tax go back to George W. Bush.
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But why didnt Teeha say that instead of blaming Obama for it? I dont understand, we, folks who are not the left, are known for honesty and integrity, yes?


lol
 
cubrock said:
The roots of that gunsmith tax go back to George W. Bush.
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OK, So ITAR was enacted in 1976 and I believe that was on President Ford's watch.

International Traffic in Arms Regulations
The AECA and ITAR were enacted in 1976 during the Cold War with USSR and were intended to implement unilateral arms export controls that reflected those imposed on Eastern Bloc countries by the multilateral Coordinating Committee for Multilateral Export Controls.[15][16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations

Continuing, Bush extended the act, ( Not Rooted and as I read it the act still applies to export of military type ,, STUFF. Dos not apply to our "Home Town" Gunsmith~s" )

The ITAR Regulatory Framework
To understand ITAR, you must first understand the regulatory framework of export laws of the United States. In simplest terms, the Export Administration Act (EAA) of 1979 as amended under 50 U.S.C. app 2401-2420 and 50 U.S.C. 1701-1706 under Executive Order 12924 is the basis for all U.S. export controls. In August 2001, the EAA technically expired and President Bush extended it by virtue of Executive Order 13222. In 2007, he signed the International Economic Powers Enhancement Act (IEEPA), which continued the EAA and increased penalties for violations.

https://www.shippingsolutions.com/b...the-international-traffic-in-arms-regulations


HMP said:
But why didnt Teeha say that instead of blaming Obama for it? I dont understand, we, folks who are not the left, are known for honesty and integrity, yes?


lol
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So, Blaming "O" for it?

Blame = assign responsibility for a fault or wrong

I did not blame the "Manchurian Candidate."

I simply shared an article that reports the repeal of fees for our "Local Home Town Gunsmiths."

While the hyper link reporting the start of the fees was provided as well, here it is,

Obama Hits Gunsmiths With Burdensome & Costly Registration Requirements

In response, the Obama Administration has written its own draconian “laws” by redefining terms, resulting in existing laws being applied to parties and transactions those laws were never intended to restrict.

These most recent of these efforts were issued July 22, 2016, by the Department of State as a “Guidance” on the “Applicability of the ITAR Registration Requirement to Firearms Manufacturers and Gunsmiths.”

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/08/ob...stly-registration-requirements/#axzz6BVjkTuWr


An addition, I'm providing another link you will find,, Educational ,,,???

Reading Is Fundamental

https://www.rif.org/
 
HMP said:
But why didnt Teeha say that instead of blaming Obama for it? I dont understand, we, folks who are not the left, are known for honesty and integrity, yes?


lol
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He is correct that Obama did that to gunsmiths, but it was under the W administration that what had been considered “gunsmithing” for decades was redefined as “manufacturing” with the requisite excise taxation. This opened the door for the Obama administration to make gunsmiths register for ITAR, since they were now required to be licensed as manufacturers, rather than as simple gun dealers, like before the Bush days.

The Bush ATF even kicked it off in dramatic fashion with a well publicized raid on a famous custom gunsmith, who was unaware he was running afoul of a new ATF regulatory interpretation.

Anywho, plenty of blame to go around for both administrations.
 
YeeHaa said:
OK, So ITAR was enacted in 1976 and I believe that was on President Ford's watch.

International Traffic in Arms Regulations
The AECA and ITAR were enacted in 1976 during the Cold War with USSR and were intended to implement unilateral arms export controls that reflected those imposed on Eastern Bloc countries by the multilateral Coordinating Committee for Multilateral Export Controls.[15][16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations

Continuing, Bush extended the act, ( Not Rooted and as I read it the act still applies to export of military type ,, STUFF. Dos not apply to our "Home Town" Gunsmith~s" )

The ITAR Regulatory Framework
To understand ITAR, you must first understand the regulatory framework of export laws of the United States. In simplest terms, the Export Administration Act (EAA) of 1979 as amended under 50 U.S.C. app 2401-2420 and 50 U.S.C. 1701-1706 under Executive Order 12924 is the basis for all U.S. export controls. In August 2001, the EAA technically expired and President Bush extended it by virtue of Executive Order 13222. In 2007, he signed the International Economic Powers Enhancement Act (IEEPA), which continued the EAA and increased penalties for violations.

https://www.shippingsolutions.com/b...the-international-traffic-in-arms-regulations





So, Blaming "O" for it?

Blame = assign responsibility for a fault or wrong

I did not blame the "Manchurian Candidate."

I simply shared an article that reports the repeal of fees for our "Local Home Town Gunsmiths."

While the hyper link reporting the start of the fees was provided as well, here it is,

Obama Hits Gunsmiths With Burdensome & Costly Registration Requirements

In response, the Obama Administration has written its own draconian “laws” by redefining terms, resulting in existing laws being applied to parties and transactions those laws were never intended to restrict.

These most recent of these efforts were issued July 22, 2016, by the Department of State as a “Guidance” on the “Applicability of the ITAR Registration Requirement to Firearms Manufacturers and Gunsmiths.”

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/08/ob...stly-registration-requirements/#axzz6BVjkTuWr


An addition, I'm providing another link you will find,, Educational ,,,???

Reading Is Fundamental

https://www.rif.org/
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Reading is fundamental, but you also have to know what to read. Your synopsis above is incomplete.
 
And, Bush raised the ITAR registration fee twice - once right before he left office. The first increase in 2004 raised it from $600 to $1750. In October 2008, it was raised to $2250.
 
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cubrock said:
Reading is fundamental, but you also have to know what to read. Your synopsis above is incomplete.
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Yup, well, As I understand it ( I guess flawed ) ITAR was started over concerns and control of what is or what was to be considered military STUFF being made available & sold outside of the USA.
My synopsis starts at the inception of ITAR for a ZERO point, of which I don't believe our "Home Town Gunsmiths " were thought of or meant to be included ,,, Unless said "Gunsmith" was Exporting items covered in ITAR.

cubrock said:
W administration that what had been considered “gunsmithing” for decades was redefined as “manufacturing” with the requisite excise taxation.
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Are You a Gunsmith or a Manufacturer? The Lines Are Not Always Clear

https://www.nssf.org/are-you-a-gunsmith-or-a-manufacturer-the-lines-are-not-always-clear/

cubrock said:
And, Bush raised the ITAR registration fee twice - once right before he left office. The first increase in 2004 raised it from $600 to $1750. In October 2008, it was raised to $2250.
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Yes, and again was for Exporting items covered under ITAR

Again, I posted this article ( above OP ) as good news that our "Home Town Gunsmiths" ( That do NOT EXPORT ) fees are being removed.

I guess it's time wasted because those that are in the business of "Buying ~ Selling Guns" Know the Rules better than I do.

So maybe Obama including Gunsmiths that don't Export items should be included in paying the ITAR Fee~s.
 
YeeHaa said:
Yup, well, As I understand it ( I guess flawed ) ITAR was started over concerns and control of what is or what was to be considered military STUFF being made available & sold outside of the USA.
My synopsis starts at the inception of ITAR for a ZERO point, of which I don't believe our "Home Town Gunsmiths " were thought of or meant to be included ,,, Unless said "Gunsmith" was Exporting items covered in ITAR.



Are You a Gunsmith or a Manufacturer? The Lines Are Not Always Clear

https://www.nssf.org/are-you-a-gunsmith-or-a-manufacturer-the-lines-are-not-always-clear/



Yes, and again was for Exporting items covered under ITAR

Again, I posted this article ( above OP ) as good news that our "Home Town Gunsmiths" ( That do NOT EXPORT ) fees are being removed.

I guess it's time wasted because those that are in the business of "Buying ~ Selling Guns" Know the Rules better than I do.

So maybe Obama including Gunsmiths that don't Export items should be included in paying the ITAR Fee~s.
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It is good news, but gunsmiths should have never been considered manufacturers to begin with. It is in Trump’s power the change that, as all it would take is an executive order. It would be better news if that happened. Had Trump changed that, ITAR would have automatically gone away for gunsmiths.

The excise taxes some of these guys pay on guns that have already been manufactured and had excise taxes paid on them dwarf the ITAR fee.
 
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