Trump supports national CCW reciprocity.

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    Easy to say when it isn't likely to happen, kind of like all those repeal 0bunghole-care votes.
     
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    Like repealing OdumbaCare and such, he can’t do that as an EO. It would have to make it past the House and Senate. As to the Senate maybe but the Dim controlled House ... NEVER would they allow it so he’s safe anyway he looks at it.
     
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    Never happen, states rights and all...
     
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    Like he said "IF" it reaches his desk. :rolleyes:
     
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    2017-2018 it was approved in the house but was never voted on in the Senate
     
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    If John McCain voted with the Senate to kill Obama-Crap-Care, it would be history, instead he voted to keep it and his wife says she is voting for Biden.
     
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    Exactly. McConnell (R) said "now is not the time" and wouldn't even float it.
    I'm betting it woulda passed, and I know Trump woulda signed it.
     
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    I don’t support national carry reciprocity.

    So I got that going for me, which is nice.
     
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    Some states have no restrictions on carry. Others have many restrictions.

    States have many differing laws on the legal use of force.

    Like it or not, some places have elected to not allow carry. Should a person who can legally carry in Wyoming be able to carry in NY, while people who have a pistol permit in New York State cannot?
     
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    Guess who actually signed national carry reciprocity into law in 2004? And then who expanded that reciprocity in 2010 and again in 2013.


    [Hint, it was Bush and Obama]





    OK, not a hint, that’s the actual answer.
     
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    I think that’s one big piece of the issue, and another part of the conundrum is “how do you balance states’ rights with individual rights?”. These states that technically or effectively ban CCW should not be able to do so. They should have the right to create their own laws around how/where you carry, but not IF you can carry.
     
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    States cannot ban rights specifically enumerated in the Constitution. But if it isn’t spelled out in that document then they can have at it. So for example, abortion should be an issue for the States. The Supreme Court should never have been involved. Same with drug laws. So free crack and coat hangers in CA. Not so much in Utah.
     
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    And that’s why they don’t do so “specifically”, but good luck getting a permit in NJ, MD, DE, CT, HI, etc.
     
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    Then drivers licenses should not have reciprocity either as some states have greater restrictions on them
     
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    The answer is YES. And when the folks in NY see how their state has voided their right to carry perhaps they will do something about it.

    Or perhaps they will move to Wyoming.

    Either way seems like a win to me.
     
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    What different restrictions are there? Genuine question, I assumed it was all the same (16 years of age)

    Its a nice gesture, to say what he said. But 'if'
    He could say a lot of things 'if' when he knows it wont get to him
    It's a nice gesture and might pick up a few votes, but likely not at this point (I doubt any 'fence sitters' would be swayed by this 'if')
     
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    SC restricted license at 15 1/2 NC is 16 after having a permit for a full year Arkansas drivers under 18 cant drive beteen 11 pm and 4 am and cant have more than 1 non family member in the car Some states like New York also require new adult drivers to attend some form of driver education before applying for a license
     
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    the state's right argument is utter bull crap
    the friggin bill of rights says THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, which means neither the fed nor "the state" has any right to regulate OUR rights that are presupposed as unalienable and endowed by our creator.

    Quit fudding around and get with the program. all gun laws are unconstitutional.
     
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