TTU police officer shot, killed at TTPD headquarters; SWAT team searching for suspect

Qball said:
@NKD @RedneckFur

Just to clarify my post/response above. I wouldn't have agreed with Prohibition had I been alive during that era. The drug problem, like everything else, is about money. If we can severely reduce the profit aspect of it then quite a few problems will be be reduced, not eliminated, but reduced. How we do that peacefully with all of the corruption involved is the million dollar question.

That's why I posted what I did above concerning military options. In my opinion, I don't see any other solution. Legalization would do it. However, that takes me back to the corruption. I don't think legalization would ever happen because there are too many pockets being stuffed, in this country and abroad.
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I agree with you on just about everything, so I'll just agree to disagree on this one thing!

But I do respect your opinion, which always seems well reasoned and thoughtful.
 
Qball said:
I see and understand your point. However, I don't recall in the history books stories of massive bombing campaigns against distilleries. There are foreign governments profiting off of the drug problem in this country. In my opinion, it's time someone is held accountable.
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Isn't alcohol a drug too? Aren't lots of people profiting off of the drug of alcohol? Did you know that alcohol is responsible for 88k deaths a year?

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm
 
Qball said:
I see and understand your point. However, I don't recall in the history books stories of massive bombing campaigns against distilleries. There are foreign governments profiting off of the drug problem in this country. In my opinion, it's time someone is held accountable.
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To be fair, dropping bombs from aircraft was still a military novelty in the 1920's. However, there were plenty of military style raids on distilleries by police, plenty of people killed, and the govt itself even put poison in thousands of containers of alcohol in hopes that the sudden deaths from enjoying the "demon drink" would scare people away from the bottle. To think that there wasn't a "war on alcohol" in the 1920's is absurd. A war where hundreds of American civilians paid the price.
 
NKD said:
I agree with you on just about everything, so I'll just agree to disagree on this one thing!

But I do respect your opinion, which always seems well reasoned and thoughtful.
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Well, if we all agreed with each other all of the time on here, this place would be boring and miserable. lol. I appreciate the kind words and I certainly feel the same about your opinions.:)
 
SPM said:
All those that wrote it meant proficient and drilled in the use of arms in a martial manner, as a regular army is proficient and drilled.

Basically, for militia to function as Regulars in military service.
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"Well regulated", refers to in good working order, in the day.
"I say Smithers, your timepiece is well regulated"!
 
Button Pusher said:
"Well regulated", refers to in good working order, in the day.
"I say Smithers, your timepiece is well regulated"!
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I'll play,. For a militia to be in to be in good working, by your totally fabricated definition, order there has to be a standard for what that good working order should be. There also has to be an unacceptable level of the standard.

For 100 points towards an attaboy what is that standard?
 
J R Green said:
I'll play,. For a militia to be in to be in good working, by your totally fabricated definition, order there has to be a standard for what that good working order should be. There also has to be an unacceptable level of the standard.
For 100 points towards an attaboy what is that standard?
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I'm not playing any games today.

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter.
It referred to the property of something being in proper working order.
Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
 
Button Pusher said:
I'm not playing any games today.

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter.
It referred to the property of something being in proper working order.
Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
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That's 4 times someone has said that but not one is willing to say what it means. If you believe hard enough I guess it will work out.
 
Button Pusher said:
Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
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J R Green said:
That's 4 times someone has said that but not one is willing to say what it means. If you believe hard enough I guess it will work out.
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" calibrated correctly" isn't that what you were asking for?
 
So if someone says " my car runs well" you need a standard. Or that "French fry tastes good" you need a taste parameter.

I don't see the point of your question. I would dare say that the founding fathers didn't feel as a "well regulated militia" needed much more clarification other than the implied... " they can kick ass and take names" as any person of prudent, sound mind would posit from that statement.

Maybe I missed the point, unless you are just being argumentative and antagonistic ..... If that is the point... I got that one.
 
Sneakymedic said:
So if someone says " my car runs well" you need a standard. Or that "French fry tastes good" you need a taste parameter.

I don't see the point of your question. I would dare say that the founding fathers didn't feel as a "well regulated militia" needed much more clarification other than the implied... " they can kick ass and take names" as any person of prudent, sound mind would posit from that statement.

Maybe I missed the point, unless you are just being argumentative and antagonistic ..... If that is the point... I got that one.
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I'm being serious. If the amendment requires the Militia (people) to be well regulated and regulated means in good working order there has to be a standard for what that order is. A clock that makes a revolution every 59 minutes is not well regulated and hence unacceptable. You can't just say that it has no definition because that would be the only line in the Constitution that doesn't. The condition was not put there by accident.

Or on the other hand the requirement that there be regulations placed on the people who can keep and bear arms seems more logical.
 
J R Green said:
I'm being serious. If the amendment requires the Militia (people) to be well regulated and regulated means in good working order there has to be a standard for what that order is. A clock that makes a revolution every 59 minutes is not well regulated and hence unacceptable. You can't just say that it has no definition because that would be the only line in the Constitution that doesn't. The condition was not put there by accident.

Or on the other hand the requirement that there be regulations placed on the people who can keep and bear arms seems more logical.
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The clock example you brought up is exactly what it means - you regulate a clock by tuning/adjusting to keep time properly. Same meaning.

Where exactly are the quantitative standards for any of the bill of rights spelled out? That's right. Nowhere. No numbers on "peaceably assemble" no number of hours or nights on quartering troops, etc... evidently only you are so obtuse (not an insult, an observation of intentional behavior) that "well trained" cannot be stated without an accompanying militia training manual to spell out exactly what that means. One thing that should be bloody obvious to everyone is that means the people possess military grade weapons as a prerequisite for for training as a militia.

You aren't being serious. As usual you are being a troll.

Last straw. Ignored.
 
J R Green said:
You don't think prisoners or felons should have guns? That sounds like "I'm for 2 A but..."

Those soldiers are not trusted outside of the front lines and are disarmed whenever they are back home, on base or off duty so what's your point?
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RedneckFur said:
Because that worked so well at preventing drinking during Prohibition?
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We have been in Afghanistan for 15yrs, Afghanistan is responsible for the majority of Opium and Heroin in the world, some sources say up to 90%. With this "war on drugs", how come we haven't taken out a Poppy field since we have been there??? I'm pretty sure some of that drug money is going to terrorist organizations. We know where these Poppy Fields are, just like we know where the Coca fields are South of us. We don't touch them because we have an industry in this country built up around "the war on drugs".
 
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We have been in Afghanistan for 15yrs, Afghanistan is responsible for the majority of Opium and Heroin in the world, some sources say up to 90%. With this "war on drugs", how come we haven't taken out a Poppy field since we have been there??? I'm pretty sure some of that drug money is going to terrorist organizations. We know where these Poppy Fields are, just like we know where the Coca fields are South of us. We don't touch them because we have an industry in this country built up around "the war on drugs".
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Sure, the CIA has done some questionable things, but I am not quite ready to call them a terrorist organization...
But I am sure there are plenty who are!
 
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