TX Man Pleads Guilty To Providing Gun For Odessa Shooting

In this case the seller really is shifty, he also hid his sales from the IRS I read.
 
The shooting was tragic, but the answer is NOT govt. regulation, licenses to see hat should be normal personal property, govt. background checks or any of that other bovine excrement.
 
The shooting was tragic, but the answer is NOT govt. regulation, licenses to see hat should be normal personal property, govt. background checks or any of that other bovine excrement.

There are certainly no new regulations needed in this case since what he did was already illegal on several levels.
 
From what I’ve read about this story, it seems he admitted that he was building ARs and then selling them for a profit of $100-200 a gun. That’s a pretty big no-no based on how the current laws are written.
 
Was he manufacturing receivers? If not, someone had to go through an FFL.

I think he had lowers transferred to himself, then built up in the lower, added an upper and sold it as a complete rifle for about $100-200 profit each rifle.

That seems to be the best narrative I can put together from various articles out there.
 
Was he manufacturing receivers? If not, someone had to go through an FFL.

Still breaking the law. no TTB tax to the .gov

Really that all its to it. so if they took every transferred receiver this dude bought and came up to X. Then a average sale price of Y he could then pay the TTB tax and be off the hook right? The whole point of the 07 FFL is to collect TTB tax on firearms.
Pistols and Revolvers 10% of sale price, Other Firearms and Ammunition 11% of sale price.

I mean my god, why send him to jail, just pay the tax and go home.
 
Still breaking the law. no TTB tax to the .gov

Really that all its to it. so if they took every transferred receiver this dude bought and came up to X. Then a average sale price of Y he could then pay the TTB tax and be off the hook right? The whole point of the 07 FFL is to collect TTB tax on firearms.
Pistols and Revolvers 10% of sale price, Other Firearms and Ammunition 11% of sale price.

I mean my god, why send him to jail, just pay the tax and go home.
It always boils down to the money doesn't it. Make and sell liquor without cutting in uncle sugar and it's agin' the law. Put together legally purchased parts and sell for a profit and uncle wants his share.
But if he had tried to pay the extortion tax then he would have to get a business stamp, dealers licence, FFL, run NCIS, keep records, submit to review of said records, pay tax on all revenue, establish a place of business etc.


Bottom line is, unless you pay for the privilege of making a buck, you ain't allowed to make a buck! AND you get to be responsible for the dang fool that misuses what you sell him!!!!
 
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When the Democrats take over, or when there's another mass shooting and the R's go weak on UBC, this is going to be the one that they will use to "prove" we need UBC.
 
If you buy a stripped lower, you are taking a firearm and manufacturing it into a pistol or rifle once you put it together.
Dealers without manufacturer licenses generally won't build a lower into a complete gun because of the way the law is written.
We had a problem with this at a gun non-profit because somebody donated a lower and we wanted to give away a complete rifle... we couldn't do it ourselves due to legal stuff and most of the dealers that normally supported us didn't have manufacturer licenses.

"...shall not be infringed"
 
Well he also sold them without any background check so there is that as well, not just the money.
 
Well he also sold them without any background check so there is that as well, not just the money.
Iirc the only requirement in TX to sell a rifle in a personal sale is to be reasonably sure the buyer is legal. There is no background check on a personal sale.
 
Iirc the only requirement in TX to sell a rifle in a personal sale is to be reasonably sure the buyer is legal. There is no background check on a personal sale.

That may be but it sounds like he was running a business building and selling rifles, I don't think he can play that card.
 
Well he also sold them without any background check so there is that as well, not just the money.

Again, thats the issue. The man was not following the law as it is written. I agree. BUT the law he broke was the 07 rules. Since he did not have a ffl, he did not need to do a NCIS check because its private property. This dude knew what he was doing 100%
 
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