Wake & Durham County Shutdown Order REVISED

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https://durhamnc.gov/DocumentCenter...ayor-Emergency-Dec-Second-Amdmt-3-25-20_FINAL

http://www.wakegov.com/covid19/Documents/FinalSignedSOE3-26-20.pdf

EDITED to combine and not create TWO threads

Residents can provide for the Safety of their homes. Wake’s is a LONG sucker. I read both.

Wake’s is broader and does not define “supplies” as HVAC and building materials and such.

Wake provides for “recreation” for about any individual as long as social distancing is maintained.

I wonder if somebody complains in FG&G or Perry’s stays open for Safety Supplies.

DCWC is closed to all, even OFF HOURS, until Mid April.

Will be interesting to see how this shakes out....

BTW....Wake County ABC stores are ESSENTIAL....
 
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The deal in Meck is you can do what you have to do it seems. Pretty much everything. Just keep your distance. Supposedly cops won't be stopping people. Yet. They said it depends on how people conduct themselves is what I took away from the whole thing.

I got email that says The Range At Lake Norman is going to be open. Hyatt sent one out saying they would be open but the cops won't allow a line out the door scenario. WBT reported gun shops were going to be closed.

The Range email stressed that orders are taking longer than usual. I ordered a Henry from their online outlet Pineville Gun Shop since they were competitive and it was delivered in a few days. Now it sounded like it could take awhile.

If you aren't good to go now, you'll pay the price on whatever can be found if you want something right away wherever you go.
 
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Which one of them 'mendments got to do stayin' home you don't want to? Get a vaccination next step outside? Mighty big Bill for them Rights...
 
Durham County 2nd Amendment Shutdown Order

Oh okay. Had me thinking that OTHER 2nd Amendment.
 
TTT

edited and changed first post. Wake County proclamation added.

wonder if FG & G will close?
Google “fuquay gun facebook” around 9AM tomorrow. You don’t need to be logged into Facebook to see it. Clay has been updating “posts” on his FB page, and also posting a video of the day. I expect he will be covering this.
 
By email, Perry's is closed. Never bought much there, but a few things, so hate to see it.
 
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From FG&G FB page:

We've got an important announcement reguarding Wake County's recently issued stay at home order.

Per the order we will have to shut the doors at our retail location at 5pm tomorrow 03-27-2020.

If you have anything you need to pick up (Layaways, Ammo, Transferred Firearms, etc) please do so before 5pm tomorrow!

...See More
Notes: All persons with handgun sales/transfers must have a NC Pistol Purchase Permit or NC Concealed Carry permit!

If you are purchasing a firearm that requires a background check please advise that the NICS background check system is EXTREMELY overloaded and is taking a long while to give statuses and is delaying about 50% of all checks. Please do not wait til end of day to start them.
 
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Wake:

"Nothing in this Proclamation shall be construed to limit, prohibit, or restrict in any way the operations of the state or federal government, or the movement of state or federal officials in Wake County while acting in their official capacity."

Well, of course! Statists gotta state!
 
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I watched Clay's video on FB this afternoon about having to close FG&G per the Wake County order.

My mind went immediately to "what about people that have firearms coming in next week". Someone asked that very question. Response was they would receive them, but you couldn't pick up anything until they reopened in April.
16th or 17th I think he said. And that's just a guess really. May be sooner or later. Who really knows.

I'd say most if not all on the forum aren't lacking something for self defense, nor am I calling out those that weren't prepared.
But damn, that's got to be a nervous wait if I was in that situation. Especially if it happens all over the state of NC at some point.
 
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I'd say most if not all on the forum aren't lacking something for self defense, nor am I calling out those that weren't prepared.
But damn, that's got to be a nervous wait if I was in that situation. Especially if it happens all over the state of NC at some point.

Going out on a limb here but if you ain't got it by now, then now ain't the time to be looking for it!!!
 
Going out on a limb here but if you ain't got it by now, then now ain't the time to be looking for it!!!
Yep ... the old Henny Penny idea comes to mind and I’ve quoted it several times lately ...

Henny Penny


Working and eating have always gone hand in hand. The Bible states in II Thessalonians 3:10 "even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat." There have always been those sayings, "A good day's wage for a good day's work." Even the children had stories to help them understand the importance of working hard and gaining from your labor. One such story that I remember was "Henny Penny".

Henny Penny and her chicks lived in the great barnyard of Farmer Brown. One day as she was clucking along, she happened upon some seeds of grain. "Oh my," she said. "I can plant these seeds and when they are grown, I can grind it into flour and make bread." So, she asked the dog, the cat, and the pig, "Who will help me plant these seeds?" The dog replied, "I'm too busy playing." The cat told her, "I'm too busy grooming." And the pig said, "Not me, I'm too busy sunning." So, Henny Penny, tilled the ground and planted the seeds herself.

Each day she asked the dog, the cat, and the pig, "Who will help me fill the buckets with water to pour on the seeds?" And each day they all had something better to do and would not help with the work. So, each day Henny Penny watered and tended to the seeds alone.

Then the day came that the seeds had grown into tall stalks of wheat and were ready to be sown, so she went to the Dog, the Cat, and the Pig and again asked, "Who will help me thrash the wheat?" No one stepped forward to help because they had something better to do. So, Henny Penny worked hard to thrash the wheat alone.

Once that was done, it was now important to grind the wheat into flour. Like before, she went to the Dog, the Cat, and the Pig, asking, "Who will help me grind the wheat?" But again, they all refused. So, like she had done before, Henny Penny worked hard and long to grind the wheat into flour.

Now, it was time to take the flour and make it into loaves of bread, she went to the Dog, the Cat, and the Pig, and she asked, "Who will help me make the bread from the flour?" No one volunteered to help because the dog was too busy playing, the cat too busy grooming, and the pig too busy laying in the sun.

"Okay, then I'll make it myself," she said. And Henny Penny did just that. She mixed the flour and made the bread, she baked it and when it was done, the dog, the cat, and the Pig could smell the wonderful aroma of the fresh baked bread and when she asked, "Who will help me eat the bread?"

The Dog barked, "I will." The cat meowed, "I will help you eat it," and the Pig grunted, "Oh, I'll help."

But this time, Henny Penny told them, "When I asked you to help me plant the seeds, you couldn't. When I asked for help in watering the seeds, you refused. And, when I asked help in gathering the wheat and grinding it into flour, you were too busy. You wouldn't even help prepare the bread to be baked. The most simple task you wouldn't do, but now you want to eat the bread?"

They all nodded their heads, but Henny Penny told them, "No, I believe, my chicks and I will eat the bread, and maybe next time, you will be more willing to help." And that she did, and Henny Penny and her chicks had a wonderful meal.

Moral of the story? You don't work, you don't eat.

Sound familiar? The problem with the world today, is that they have not heard the story of "Henny Penny", and they have not learned its moral. Raise the young with a good work ethic, and they will build a better future for themselves and for others. Today children are taught to be lazy and not productive. Give children responsibilities, and they will learn how to be responsible adults. Teach children how to respect others, and they will grow into respectful adults. So, tell this story to your kids, and then have them take out the trash, but reward them for their hard work.
 
These orders are unenforcible, perhaps "unconstitutional" as they say at such times as this. Fortunately (for them) this mean ol' scary virus is a pretty convincing army backing them up. Even if it is invisible, though highly publicized. Personally, I take comfort in the $$2 Trillion in extra debt we duh people is on the hook for - forever. Thank Congress for the Cure!
 
These orders are unenforcible, perhaps "unconstitutional" as they say at such times as this. Fortunately (for them) this mean ol' scary virus is a pretty convincing army backing them up. Even if it is invisible, though highly publicized. Personally, I take comfort in the $$2 Trillion in extra debt we duh people is on the hook for - forever. Thank Congress for the Cure!
Pretty sure no one is on the hook for any of it. Its play money.
 
Yeah, but the interest ain't! Even if them that gets it done spent it already. Stateless transnational financial swine wallow in free mud whilst the people mumble and stand in line.
 
I recall that the $1,200 virus aid will end up costing each taxpayer over $6,000.
 
Is that number adjusted for illegal immigrants and desceased Chicago voters ?
If you don't have a social security number or green card, you don't get the money. But we know some will get it anyway. ;) Plus the bill has $350MM for 'immigrant assistance' that will be used until is has been expended. :(
 
I believe it’s based on the most recent tax return 2019, or 2018 if you haven’t filed 2019
 
I believe it’s based on the most recent tax return 2019, or 2018 if you haven’t filed 2019

fieldgrade....I don't quite follow the post. But, my wife is an EX ParaProfessional Tax Person. She, as well as I read the various accounts.....here is what the $1200 that has been bandied about.....breaks down into.

FIRST....you are correct. IF you have filed (and it has been processed.....as BIG IF) you 2019 return.....then as long as the IRS has "processed or keyed it in or actually "Scanned" it....then your "income" which is bandied about also will be based on the 2019 return....otherwise....as you state....it will be on the 2018 data. THAT also is the rule for "dependents - presumably children" under 17. That gets a bit tricky as to the age. There is NO clear definition that states.....if the child was 17 (or less) at the time of the 2018 filing....the tax filer WILL or WILL NOT get the additional $500. The Government has been known to be LIBERAL.....or to be nit picky....so the jury is still out if you have a dependent that is close to the 17 in 2018 or is close now.... WHO KNOWS.....some IRS FAQ will eventually resolve that.

NOW....the $1200 is not guaranteed, as I am sure that you know. The term "Earning" and "Wages" and "Income" is also "up for grabs. The Federal Tax starts out with EARNING.....or Wages or compensation.....something for WHICH you were paid for services rendered. NOW.....you typically do NOT use that.....as the form then states...."Other mess". This could be 1099 if you provided some services like teaching a class on CCW for a tech school or such. Since you are NOT an employee, but a contractor, you receive a 1099 for "services". Next up.....you may have stock dividends, interest (pass book or if you have investments that pay interest). You add in ALL the Wages, 1099 "wages" and the dividends/interest and THAT is your Adjusted Gross Income.... or AGI. THEN the government allows you deductions.....and you pay tax of a calculated lesser amount. Many learned (and many DUMB @$$) politicians and reporters say "Income" or Wages". The IRS has NOT published their guidelines or FAQ as the law was not signed. ONCE signed, the the equally learned bureaucrats at the IRS will "define" income. MOST are betting AGI... and many "supposed" reputable sites (the WaPo....of COURSE is always right) parrot that....

Single Filer (not head or runs or pays for a household)...$1200, but if they make more then $75,000....then they will get less and finally Zero if their income is $99,000 or more.
Head of Household $1200 but is less for Income (AGI) more than 112,500.....and is ZERO at 136,500
Married filing JOINT....each gets $1200.....but it drops off at $150,000 and Zero at 198,000
HOWEVER....there is also $500 per dependent UNDER 17 and that is FIXED.....it does NOT change. It is added to the amount (taxpayer receives)...

Other than that, it is simple....
 
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I'm pretty sure the bread phase is coming soon as promised. Just what we need. Circuses being cancelled, ya know, does throw deliveries in disarray - so it might not last as hoped for until the "Let them eat cake" phase was due to arrive. Might need more Quantitative Easing/Ex Lax for the masses. Trump is full of it...Kathy Griffen said so. DOW is up. Cool!
 
BTW....Wake County ABC stores are ESSENTIAL....

I saw it mentioned on another site that the reason ABC stores are essential is because people can die from alcohol withdrawals, and they don't want to clog up emergency rooms any more than necessary.
 
The real reason is the state is protecting one of its revenue streams, considering how much money it is losing in sales tax, and likely income tax, from shutting various businesses down.
 
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