Wasr and arsenal

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  1. jmccracken1214

    jmccracken1214 I didn’t learn the first time

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    Im hoping to pick up an AK soon... Ive had a few wasr's before. always loved them. A few saigas back 8-10 years ago when you could get them for $400. But some of these's "high end" ak's.... confuse me.. $1500+? WHAT...

    What does a $1100-$1500 ak do, that the $700 wasr wont?

    PS, My last wasr was in 2015, i paid $550 for it brand new at Atlas firearms.. I miss those days!
     
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    Wasr is as good as rifle as anything out there. You will impress people who don't have a clue about AK's if you buy a Arsenal:cool:
    I have had many of both. The only difference is price and that's it.
     
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    Case Mouth Happy to be here Benefactor

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    I have a couple of each (Arsenals and Wasrs) and as most are probably going to say, WASR is by far the best bang for the buck.
     
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    WASR doesn't have magwell dimples, and that makes some people itchy.
    You're paying for that and a 90 degree gas block (and maybe a folding stock, depending on model) on an Arsenal. They shoot about the same.

    The milled rifles are better, and I'd take one of those over a WASR, but not any of the stamped Arsenals.
     
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    jmccracken1214 I didn’t learn the first time

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    So for the 700 price, wasr is best?
     
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    IUHoosier429 Bull(et) City Charter Member Benefactor Supporting Member

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    Yes. Or you can opt for WASR's younger brother, the RH10 - https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/ak47-rh10-classic-ri3036n. From the same factory and pretty much the same gun, except for a combo front sight/gas block and an optic rail that sits just a pinch higher. Currently $600.

    Arsenals are nice guns, and I really enjoy the couple I own. Bulgarian built versus the Romanian WASR. Expect fit and finish to be better (yes, I'm well aware of some of the issues with certain prefixes) and the guns to generally "feel" nicer in your hands. However, they won't do anything noticeably better than a WASR when it comes time to pull the trigger.
     
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    What no vepr love?.?.?.?
     
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    jmccracken1214 I didn’t learn the first time

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    Can you get a VEPR for around $700? I assume vepr's are on similar level as the arsenal.
     
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    I seen some for sale for 799.00 somewhere...
     
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    jmccracken1214 I didn’t learn the first time

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    Well let me know. I’d love a milled receiver but I’m not spending $1000 on any ak.

    I’m going to part ways with my AR stuff, minus a few lowers and one PSA build just so I have one. But I miss my ak’s. It’s time I go back to them
     
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    Found one
     
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    man anything ak has gone crazy
     
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    Not milled, if that is the gun you were referring to. It's a dimple-less (like the WASR) stamped receiver Saiga, which were relatively common in the mid-2000s. You can clearly see the rivets. Also, you're going to spend a few hundred more dollars purchasing the parts to have it properly converted into a "real" AK. Add in extra labor costs if you have someone else do the conversion.

    Edited to add - just pointing out because I saw both words mentioned in a same post, but Veprs don't have milled receivers either. They have a beefed up 1.5 mm stamped receiver (vs. 1.0 mm for standard stamped receivers) and an RPK-style trunnion.
     
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