Welcome Back Pelosi! 2a implications?

To me, the disturbing part is the closeness of some of these elections. More and more people are voting for socialism/communism. Soon, they will win.

This. My God just look at Texas! Texas of all places. Shouldn't have been that close. This is just my opinion, but we are a dying breed. Eventually the younger generation, whom most could care less about guns and the 2A, will outnumber us and the tide will turn to the Dems favor. Most younger kids care more about technology (internet, phones, video games). Millennials? You've seen them on display. Most care more about free healthcare, legalization of pot, raising the minimum wage, etc than the 2A. Barring some great awakening it will eventually turn to their favor. Someone posted a while back about "The Fourth Turning." I think that is right. Really haven't read much about it other than in that post. The question is how do you stem the tide? On another note, someone asked in another thread (can't find it right now) if it was time to consider caches for storage of ammo, firearms etc. I tend to be a productive member of society. I go to work. I support my family. I obey the law. I stay out of trouble. Yet gun owners are being demonized by some politicians and they seem to care more about illegals than Americans. Pisses me off. Most of my firearms I bought from gun shows or dealers. Sometimes I wish I had bought from individuals (legally of course) just to make them work a little harder if/when confiscation rhetoric starts again. It makes me pause to think if I should keep the few I have bought from individuals separate from ones I bought from dealers. Yes, I know it won't really matter, but still.
 
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Seems I've heard a certain word a lot the last few years. What was that word...

RESIST! :p

Good for the goose and all.
 
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I don’t see the SCOTUS supporting an erosion of 2a in the short term. There certainly won’t be any widespread proactive confiscations from federal law before the middle of next decade. We will probably see limited confiscations based on an ever lower bar for mental health concerns.
 
As the populous becomes more increasingly intelligent and "blended", the country will return to its former glory! LMFAO.....
Look at the population replacement in Europe and give us about 20 more years to reach par. You evil white devils are toast!

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I know that the draw to this community is our common interest in firearms and 2A freedom but I'm convince that we do ourselves a great disservice when we are most concerned about only one issue. We as gun owners are fragmented into groups that will throw the other guy under the proverbial bus by, as an example, giving up bump stocks in the hope that sometime in the distant future we will get suppressors off the NFA or give up AR's as long as I can keep my O/U. Just examples.

The other side will lie down in the same ditch with someone of polar opposite life style just to have an ally in the fight against the basis of the American Way of Life.

While I'm not advocating for such hypocrisy I am advocating for more thought to what we want of this country. If we can't stop the devolvement into socialism we are a lost nation. I believe each of us should ask ourselves what we really stand for. If 2A rights are the only hill we are willing to die on then we're done. In other words, why did our forefathers add the 2A into the mix. The amendments are the tools to safeguard the constitution. All of them. I am very concerned about the 1st as well. Not just the suppression of speech but also the perversion of speech that is thrust upon us daily. The political ads we have recently been bombarded with should still be fresh in our minds and still cause me angst. Lies presented as truth are readily believed by many and even those who know better start to wonder after hearing them constantly.

I wish I had a good answer but I'm afraid that we are in need of some 'tea party' events to wake us up and motivate us to action.

United we stand, divided we fall! Great words from a long gone Statesman.
 
Sad thing that all the Dems have to do is flip Texas and I think Missouri blue and the Repubs could never win another presidential election. We really are not that far away...
 
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Do you really believe anything is going to change because the peasants voted for ID yesterday? Ha! That will be in legal battles forever. Plus faking an ID isn't that tough. Especially when an aging poll worker with bad eyes is your backstop.
But (most) anything has to be better than what happened to a friend of mine here. She goes in and the worker asks for her last name, which she gives. Instead of prompting her for anything else, the lady says "are you Mary or Lisa?" Friend answered "Mary". And then the lady asks "do you live on Riverside?" and friend said "yes"...and was able to vote.

Uggh.

(Names changed for privacy reasons)
 
I for one don't believe that all of us, and by "us", I'm referring to pro-2A people all across this nation, are going to just sit there and willfully turn over our guns to the state when they come for them.

There's not enough of them out there to start a confiscation and if they do, they are out numbered big time.

To answer another member's question earlier in this thread, the authorities aren't going to go door-to-door and prosecute people for non-compliance. If it gets to that point, the folks having to deliver the message to the non-complying citizens won't get home at the end of the day.

That's because by the time it gets to that point, Qball is not going to be sitting home alone with his immediate family hoping and praying for the best. There will be a huge network of very well-armed and skilled shooters prepared to take a stand.

That's when bad things start happening.
 
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You're dreaming. If guns were banned how are you going to train? How are you going to zero an optic? Are you willing to go to prison and leave your family unprovided for and unprotected?

April 19, 1775
Lexington, MA
Early morning before sunrise

Minuteman's wife: "What happens to me and your children if you get captured or killed?"

Lexington Minuteman: "Gotta go." (picks up musket/bag/powderhorn and heads out the door to Lexington Green)

Why?

So some jackass tyrant in a red coat doesn't come in and try to run the lives of the woman and kids he just left.
 
Can we take a break from the "last election Republicans will ever win" defeatist BS.

The same stale propaganda about "inevitable liberal victory due to demographics" has been circulating for 40-50 years that I have seen and probably for substantially longer.

The only way liberal "demographic victory" makes any sort of sense is if people surrender to and embrace identity politics. Traditional political issues like economics cut across identity groups and totally destroy the pigeonholes liberals try to assign people to.
 
Sad thing that all the Dems have to do is flip Texas and I think Missouri blue and the Repubs could never win another presidential election. We really are not that far away...
If this is a concern, perhaps the Repugs should ask themselves why and consider what they stand for. They have a perception problem in terms of who they represent. Rather than representing the populace, they seem to represent their crony corporate buddies. Example, every time hear them drone about “lower” taxes, what goes unsaid is that it is offset by higher fees that the average Joe gets hit with. They never reduce spending, just whose money they’re doing it with.

With the D’s you know what you’re getting. With the R’s you get a soft soap job.
 
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Can we take a break from the "last election Republicans will ever win" defeatist BS.

The same stale propaganda about "inevitable liberal victory due to demographics" has been circulating for 40-50 years that I have seen and probably for substantially longer.

The only way liberal "demographic victory" makes any sort of sense is if people surrender to and embrace identity politics. Traditional political issues like economics cut across identity groups and totally destroy the pigeonholes liberals try to assign people to.

I certainly hope you are right GC. We may be seeing some evidence of this by changes such as Brexit. The republicans definitely need to solidify their stance and move back toward the right as far as true conservatism is concerned. Balanced budget, reduced and accountable spending, protect the US with immigration control and stronger boarder security, quit trying to buy favor with nations that hate us and support our true allies, if we have any left. Restore states rights, which is the reason I'm leery of universal anything, health care, concealed carry, etc. In other words, the republican party needs to reform!

OTOH, the dems have shown their true colors of rabid behavior in this cycle. Perhaps some who have held to that side will actually start using their heads to think and realize they are not what they proclaim to be.
 
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How about these demographics: Census Bureau says that by 2040, 70% of the US population will live in 15 states. That means that the other 35 rural and generally conservative states will elect 70 of 100 Senators. The Senate confirms the judges. Assuming we are still a country in 2040, our increasing urbanization makes it more difficult for the liberals to run the Senate or the Judicial Branch.
 
April 19, 1775
Lexington, MA
Early morning before sunrise

Minuteman's wife: "What happens to me and your children if you get captured or killed?"

Lexington Minuteman: "Gotta go." (picks up musket/bag/powderhorn and heads out the door to Lexington Green)

Why?

So some jackass tyrant in a red coat doesn't come in and try to run the lives of the woman and kids he just left.
My reply you're quoting is in response to a blanket statement that free men need not be concerned about gun control. It does not apply to armed conflict.
 
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We may just see another 2A friendly SCOTUS appointment in the next 3 months folks. I actually have high hopes this midterm solidified the Senate and Judicial appointments for the next 30 years.
 
We may just see another 2A friendly SCOTUS appointment in the next 3 months folks. I actually have high hopes this midterm solidified the Senate and Judicial appointments for the next 30 years.
Supreme Court - Press Release - November 8, 2018
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg fell in her office at the Court last evening. She went home, but after experiencing discomfort overnight, went to George Washington University Hospital early this morning. Tests showed that she fractured three ribs on her left side and she was admitted for observation and treatment. Updates will be provided as they become available.
 
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Kagan and Sotomyer aren’t going anywhere. Neither is RBG unless it’s to room temperature. Breyer I don’t see going anywhere unless it’s a D in the WH and senate.

Now Roberts retiring? Possible but doubtful. Thomas is possible as well he has been on the court the longest now since 1991. He would possibly go out with DJT and the R’s in power of the Senate to allow them to keep the court majority for many years. That being said he likes pissing the libs off too much to leave Just yet. Alito, gorsuch and Kav are relatively new and healthy so they will stay as well.
Sodomyers health is suspect...shes a T1 diabetic in her late 60s....and already been hospitalized once in the last 12 months
 
From September 2016. Court Rules That Medical Marijuana Card Holders Can't Buy Firearms
http://fortune.com/2016/09/01/medic...yYvmv-jQU0uHjtmNIANv0naZ3ad6xiJzS1xUrMaeA1fRc

From reading comments on the article it looks like the wording was amended, but relative to the point I think a lot of the younger generation would give up the 2A for marijuana legalization. Does it stop there? Could it expand to people taking antidepressants being barred from owning a firearm? Opiods? I use to be doubtful but who knows if something like this would be the first step with some of these crazy politicians.

 
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This is nothing new. Marijuana has been illegal under federal law since at least 1937 and has been a disqualifier for firearms ownership since the Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed.

The only thing new is the sheer number of people who are surprised to discover their states cannot pass out cards to exempt them from federal law.
 
Several have predicted that the Democrats will be unable to behave in a way that doesn't help ensure a second Trump term and Dems losing the house again.
They have gone so far left and will incite more violence. Any moderate dems will finally wake up to the fact the their party hates liberty and demands subservience.

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