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@Michael458 on that 458 hp do you get enough extra performance from milling a hexagon to justify the extra work vs drilling it?

@JimB One more thing, this is one of the actual tests with one of the SSK/Lehigh bullets. This is a Witness Card placed 4 inches inside the test medium, and you can see the star shaped pattern of the blades after they have sheared........



This is another one in .500 caliber Clearly you can see the star pattern of the blades that sheared at 2 inches.



Keep in mind, these blades are found at 6-8 inches deep in this test medium............. Most conventional 45 ACP Hollow Points only penetrate to 4-5 inches in the same medium...... This is why they are called "blades"......... They penetrate by slicing and dicing...............
 

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Interesting, I expected the blades to have little mass and stop within an inch or two.
 

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Interesting, I expected the blades to have little mass and stop within an inch or two.

It was a surprise to us as well when we were testing. In the field, the blades from 416+ caliber weigh anything from 6-9 gr. On 200 lb animals those blades will actually exit broadside animals, 12 inches from center bullet. Smaller bore
blades get caught up in organs and internal tissues. No blades ever make it to the far side of buffalo however. They do slice and dice the internals however. Wicked stuff......... Incredible amounts of blood.
 

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Today I got to play with the 21st Century hydro bullet seater. Basically an arbor press with a force gauge. It is a good way to quantify neck tension while seating a bullet.

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Then I installed an extended firing pin, and reduced gas bushing, in my Ruger Mini-30. Ruger Minis are notorious for being over gassed - mine launches brass 30 feet or more. The Accuracy Systems website said the standard factory gas bushing was 0.085”, but mine actually measured 0.100”. :eek: I installed the middle sized bushing from their kit, which is 0.065”.
 
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It was 45 Colt day in the dungeon. My 625-9 has been pleading to me whenever I pass the safe. I think I will take it, my Marlin, and a few single action revolvers to the farm next week to turn some money into noise.
 

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@Toprudder, your post is hard to read, for folks who use the "dark mode" for the site.

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Yesterday I loaded 50 rounds of 50 B&M with 425 #13 Solids at 2320 fps. Rifle is sighted for these, and has a several other bullets that have the same POI at 50. Later I prepped another 225 pieces of 50 B&M brass, it is now RTL whenever I need it.
RTL (Ready To Load)........................





 

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Ran 75 - 223 rounds.
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Couple hundred rounds of 10mm and put a new pin kit, barrel bushing, trigger and sear spring in the Delta Elite. Ready to run the tar outta it tomorrow.

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Deprimed 2600 pieces of 9mm brass, and 300 mixed pieces of 357 Mag and 38spl on the Lee APP press. Wet tumbling it all tomorrow. Then probably loading something or other.
 

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Over the weekend I cut open 25 shotgun shells, melted the shot, cast the lead into slugs.

Put the slugs back in the hulls (keeping the original primer/powder/wad). I was able to make cheap but time-consuming slugs.
 

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Deprimed 2600 pieces of 9mm brass, and 300 mixed pieces of 357 Mag and 38spl on the Lee APP press. Wet tumbling it all tomorrow. Then probably loading something or other.
Decapping 9mm goes pretty quick for me on the APP press.
 

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Decapping 9mm goes pretty quick for me on the APP press.

Same here! Used to do it on the press, then a FA depriming tool on the couch. Now the APP. Took maybe an hour and a half to do them all, and there were a couple short breaks in that. I use it for cast bullet sizing also, makes that process a breeze as well.
 

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Same here! Used to do it on the press, then a FA depriming tool on the couch. Now the APP. Took maybe an hour and a half to do them all, and there were a couple short breaks in that. I use it for cast bullet sizing also, makes that process a breeze as well.
I’ve knoocked out a little over 3300 in two hours. Almost fills up the catch bottle. 3300 spent small pistol primers weigh 1.4 lbs.
 

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Oh My! I need to do something different I think! I have worked most of the day to process, form, trim and make 280 pieces of 458 B&M brass........ I thought I was doing great until I read this.............
All I was doing was decapping 9mm, that hardly compares to what you do!
 

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All I was doing was decapping 9mm, that hardly compares to what you do!

Its all good stuff, 9mm or some of the things I do here. I have a terrible time with 9mm. @Toprudder , I need your help with this. I have mentioned before, but I hate loading 9mm because of the bullet bulge in the sized cases. My OCD just will not allow this, to the point that if I have a special 9mm bullet, like the Lehighs or the Raptors, I buy NEW BRASS, I do not size it, and load those bullets, no bullet bulge in the case. I even bought several different size dies by RCBS, Redding, Hornady, and probably more, still bullet bulge! Is there a size die or method I can get or use to solve this? Seems no one else is having this issue? All you guys loading 9mm like crazy.........no one else has bulged cases? Drives me insane..............
 

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Its all good stuff, 9mm or some of the things I do here. I have a terrible time with 9mm. @Toprudder , I need your help with this. I have mentioned before, but I hate loading 9mm because of the bullet bulge in the sized cases. My OCD just will not allow this, to the point that if I have a special 9mm bullet, like the Lehighs or the Raptors, I buy NEW BRASS, I do not size it, and load those bullets, no bullet bulge in the case. I even bought several different size dies by RCBS, Redding, Hornady, and probably more, still bullet bulge! Is there a size die or method I can get or use to solve this? Seems no one else is having this issue? All you guys loading 9mm like crazy.........no one else has bulged cases? Drives me insane..............
Everyone has bulged cases, at least they do if they use a die with a carbide sizing ring. We just accept it and move on.

The 9mm is a tapered case. The carbide sizing ring is appropriately sized to reduce the case mouth and neck down enough for proper neck tension (after expanded). The problem is that the ring has to size the full length of the case, and ends up sizing the lower portion of the brass smaller than needed. If you can find a steel sizing die (not carbide or titanium nitride) you should get a proper sizing, but you will need to lube all the brass. I think Redding might still offer a steel sizing die for 9mm.
 
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Everyone has bulged cases, at least they do if they use a die with a carbide sizing ring. We just accept it and move on.

The 9mm is a tapered case. The carbide sizing ring is appropriately sized to reduce the case mouth and neck down enough for proper neck tension (after expanded). The problem is that the ring has to size the full length of the case, and ends up sizing the lower portion of the brass smaller than needed. If you can find a steel sizing die (not carbide or titanium nitride) you should get a proper sizing, but you will need to lube all the brass. I think Redding might still offer a steel sizing die for 9mm.

Yes, I recall now, I was complaining about this on something else, and you stated this very thing. Before I forget, I am going in search of the steel size die by Redding hopefully....... Thanks......... I will put up with the lube if I can get rid of the bulge. Its so bad to me, I will not even load fired brass, not even for testing or plinking. Thanks again.............
 

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Yes, I recall now, I was complaining about this on something else, and you stated this very thing. Before I forget, I am going in search of the steel size die by Redding hopefully....... Thanks......... I will put up with the lube if I can get rid of the bulge. Its so bad to me, I will not even load fired brass, not even for testing or plinking. Thanks again.............
I could not find a steel die from Redding. I don't remember where I saw that. But, I did find where Lyman made a "Profile Pistol Size Die" for 9mm, that was carbide, but stated "The blend of carbide and steel sizing die reduces the hourglass shape of the handloaded pistol ammunition". It was listed on the OpticsPlanet website as "discontinued by manufacturer".

Some of the die manufacturers will custom make dies for a charge, I know Lee and Redding both do. That might be a possibility.
 

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@Toprudder ........ Yes, I found the Redding at Graf & Sons........not in stock. But I have the entire set of "Steel" dies and just the size die on the wishlist, and with email notification when they come in. I will take either. And they plainly state you need to lube, they are not carbide...... The entire die set is RED80172 Item# and the single size die is RED91172. So we will see if they come in or not....?????

Thanks........ I briefed through everything I could find, and if it said carbide, I did not look at it. I might have missed the Lyman. Midway also had a Redding die listed, did not say carbide, but it was not the same Redding Item number? It was out of stock too. Hell there is damn near nothing in stock it seems..........

Thanks for the help, it is appreciated greatly, as this is a pet peeve that drives me nuts with 9mm, and one of the reasons I hate it so damn bad. Fortunately I have enough new brass I can get by, I have about 600 Lehighs I want to load, but have plenty of new brass I bought for that mission. I also have a 1000 or so of those great RMR Flat Nose FMJ I would like to load, but find it hard to sacrifice my new brass for those......
 

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finally broke down and bought a mini mr. bullet feeder for my 9mm Hornady LnL setup. only ran ~100 rounds through it, and I think it'll be a huge time saver. Should have done this a long time ago. Anybody know of tube extensions for this thing that will allow me to hold more bullets?
 

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It has not been too long since steel dies were all we had. Those old ones do come in handy at times these days. I have a M92 Winchester that was rebarreled in 357 Mag that has a generous chamber and I have to run all those cases through my old steel die to get the base back down to the proper size.

I have not shot a 243 Win in quite a while. I dusted off my 243 dies and loaded up a few to shoot in a BAR and a M70. It should be fun.
 

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I usually do some reloading for therapy/relaxation but since I have not really shot anything in weeks, I opened up my reloading and loaded rounds storage cabinet and shuffled stuff around. Maybe the second time in the cabinet in 4 or 5 weeks. DAMN I needed that.
 

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I think Redding might still offer a steel sizing die for 9mm.

I must have put this on the wish list from Midway as well..............They are on the way.......Delivered by Friday......Thanks.............I bought the entire 3 die set, since that was all that was available.......

Redding 3-Die Sets contain a full length sizing die, expander die, and bullet seating die. The steel full length sizing die features a decapping rod assembly with neck expander. Sizing lube (not included) will ensure smooth functioning.

As for Hand Loading, I am still busy forming and processing big bore brass. For the most part now I have 458 B&M finished, at or around 300 pieces RTL (Ready to Load)...... formed, sized, trimmed and primed.







Right now I have been concentrating on getting brass ready to load, and then later I will start finalizing loads for the various rifles/cartridges. Load a few for the shelf, and have the rest of the brass RTL at a moments notice. Easy and fast to load if the brass is ready to go.

I have also been working on 416 B&M the last few days and making good progress there. Then I move to 9.3 B&M, 50,475, 458 Super Shorts, 50 B&M AK, 500 MDM and then maybe make some moves to non B&M cartridges, like 338 RUM and 358 RUM>...
 

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Finished 300 pieces of 416 B&M Brass today............ all RTL.............Formed, sized, trimmed and primed..................labeled and in containers.........................









I laid in 500 pieces of Norma 300 RUM brass the other day.................. this stuff has to be cut and trimmed to Basic brass at 2.240 inches.......... then it can be made into 50, 458, 416 and 9.3 B&M. I might make some 358 RUM out of a 100 pieces of this as well. So I will only cut 400 pieces for B&M brass.

 

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My 9mm steel Redding dies came in today....... In the near future, when I get some other projects out of the way first, I will try this size die out, steel, not carbide, and will need to lube. Hopefully it will size the brass properly to spec and I won't have a bullet bulge! Thanks for the advice @Toprudder ....................








I have been forming and making 9.3 B&M brass today. I had some 375RUM basic on hand, and was doing the last step in prep, putting primers in. I had this case that would not go in the shell holder??? I measured and the rim is over sized. This is of course new RUM brass, its never been fired or loaded.

On occasion you will have some brass that is out of spec direct from the factory. This is not the first time I have seen such things, although they are rare. It can happen. I removed this piece from the batch............. Standard rim size on RUM is .526" and this one was at .543..................... The piece did feed in the gun, which is a huge plus for the guns to be able to take something so out of spec. Not long ago I had a 50 B&M Alaskan piece of brass that the rim was so large it would not fit in the gun.

 
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