Which 1911 in 9mm?

@fieldgrade, Going back to 9mm? You have been shooting that Colt pretty good the last few matches.
Thanks Barry, and I’ll keep shooting .45 too. The difference in my ammo cost between 9 and 45 over one year will buy a $1200 pistol, plus I gaven’t bought a gun in a year, lol. It’s time.
 
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I'm guessing he's one of those "anything that isn't .45ACP doesn't belong in a 1911" people.
He’s good peeps. Lol
Ken Hackathorn carries a Wilson 1911 in 9mm so I’d still be secure in my masculinity. :)
 
There are so many DW models, and I don't know the difference, other than there are some I can't afford, and some I REALLY can't afford.

True. And with most them they are all on equal footing, just a matter of what features, look and feel you want.
 
Went to FG&G and handled DW, Colt, Springfield, and RIA. Observe the Dan Wesson ejector. Looks like an ejector for .45acp
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Now observe the Colt ejector. MUCH longer, and gets bent loading Wilson mags with any gusto. I had one.
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The RIA ejector and Springfield ejectors were both equally different and were somewhere between the extremes of the Colt and the DW in length.

My conclusion: The science isn’t settled on how to build a 1911 in 9mm. Having had significant ejector problems with one of them in the past I was paying particular attention to that particular component. I’m pretty much spooked from the platform for now, and will adopt @sr30 ’s position on the matter.
 
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Went to FG&G and handled DW, Colt, Springfield, and RIA. Observe the Dan Wesson ejector. Looks like an ejector for .45acp
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Now observe the Colt ejector. MUCH longer, and gets bent loading Wilson mags with any gusto. I had one.
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The RIA ejector and Springfield ejectors were both equally different and were somewhere between the extremes of the Colt and the DW in length.

My conclusion: The science isn’t settled on how to build a 1911 in 9mm. Having had significant ejector problems with one of them in the past I was paying particular attention to that particular component. I’m pretty much spooked from the platform for now, and will adopt @sr30 ’s position on the matter.

Don't rain on my parade man, this thread was pointing me in the direction of my next gun purchase. I don't know what it's gonna be, but a 9mm 1911 was where I was headed, and I'll be buying it from FG&G... I was leaning towards the SA EMP4 (not the old model EMP)
 
Went to FG&G and handled DW, Colt, Springfield, and RIA. Observe the Dan Wesson ejector. Looks like an ejector for .45acp
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Now observe the Colt ejector. MUCH longer, and gets bent loading Wilson mags with any gusto. I had one.
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The RIA ejector and Springfield ejectors were both equally different and were somewhere between the extremes of the Colt and the DW in length.

My conclusion: The science isn’t settled on how to build a 1911 in 9mm. Having had significant ejector problems with one of them in the past I was paying particular attention to that particular component. I’m pretty much spooked from the platform for now, and will adopt @sr30 ’s position on the matter.

Thats why a lot of USPSA shooter do not like their guns to slide lock back. Over exertions will cause issues.
 
Went to FG&G and handled DW, Colt, Springfield, and RIA. Observe the Dan Wesson ejector. Looks like an ejector for .45acp
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Now observe the Colt ejector. MUCH longer, and gets bent loading Wilson mags with any gusto. I had one.
View attachment 54118

The RIA ejector and Springfield ejectors were both equally different and were somewhere between the extremes of the Colt and the DW in length.

My conclusion: The science isn’t settled on how to build a 1911 in 9mm. Having had significant ejector problems with one of them in the past I was paying particular attention to that particular component. I’m pretty much spooked from the platform for now, and will adopt @sr30 ’s position on the matter.

I would agree the science isn't settled. DW has it figured out and so do a few others. If you haven't done so already just grab a CZ. You can go basic 75B and have a good shooter or CZ Custom or CGW and the sky is the limit. For a good ergonomic 9mm they are hard to beat. Plus you have lots of parts and aftermarket support no matter what you do. They shoot as good as a 9mm 1911 for most of us mortal shooters. And the pricing normally won't kill you.
 
Don't rain on my parade man, this thread was pointing me in the direction of my next gun purchase. I don't know what it's gonna be, but a 9mm 1911 was where I was headed, and I'll be buying it from FG&G... I was leaning towards the SA EMP4 (not the old model EMP)
Those are great shooters. I’m just looking at full size 1911’s and the EMP is very unique unto itself. Modeled after the 1911 but proprietary in that it’s pieces and parts are not “1911 spec”.
 
Those are great shooters. I’m just looking at full size 1911’s and the EMP is very unique unto itself. Modeled after the 1911 but proprietary in that it’s pieces and parts are not “1911 spec”.

That is what has always kept me away from them. Magazines being a biggy. Plus some of their slide to frame fit leaves a lot to be desired in a $1k gun. I have seen some good ones, and some really ugly ones. I'd just spend about another $300 and get a DW ECO. No comparison.
 
I've got an STI Spartan V that shoots well, and I don't have to worry about knocking it around. It does have the Bomar sights, though. It's got the best trigger that I've ever owned on a gun.
The Spartan was a Armscor gun made for STI Armscor frame and slide with STI parts built by Armscor checked by STI its no longer made
 
Went to FG&G and handled DW, Colt, Springfield, and RIA. Observe the Dan Wesson ejector. Looks like an ejector for .45acp
View attachment 54119

Now observe the Colt ejector. MUCH longer, and gets bent loading Wilson mags with any gusto. I had one.
View attachment 54118

The RIA ejector and Springfield ejectors were both equally different and were somewhere between the extremes of the Colt and the DW in length.

My conclusion: The science isn’t settled on how to build a 1911 in 9mm. Having had significant ejector problems with one of them in the past I was paying particular attention to that particular component. I’m pretty much spooked from the platform for now, and will adopt @sr30 ’s position on the matter.
My STI Trojan for reference.

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The Spartan was a Armscor gun made for STI Armscor frame and slide with STI parts built by Armscor checked by STI its no longer made

Basically: a bunch of MIM parts made in the Phillipines.
 
The Springfield RO 1911s in 9mm are excellent. Dan Wesson has a half dozen excellent 1911s in 9mm. The science isn't figured out is painting with 4 sponges stuck together. I and many others have found the issues tend to be with mags, even with the cheaper 1911s, if there are even any issues at all.
 
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A perfectly ejecting 40 smoothed in mojo.

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I just learned I'm buying a new washer and dryer in the morning with the money that was otherwise allocated to this purchase.

I'll just keep spending money to make big holes with JMB's original design.
 
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The Springfield RO 1911s in 9mm are excellent. Dan Wesson has a half dozen excellent 1911s in 9mm. The science isn't figured out is painting with 4 sponges stuck together. I and many others have found the issues tend to be with mags, even with the cheaper 1911s, if there are even any issues at all.
It's always the new guys.
 
This is why I say the science isn't settled.

This is an ejector from Wilson Combat supposedly for 45, 9, and 38 super.

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And an ejector for 9mm from Ed Brown.

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If you look at the pictures posted in this thread of DW, Colt, and STI 9mm ejectors, it's not exactly like any of them, and every one of them posted is different one from the next.
 
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I just learned I'm buying a new washer and dryer in the morning with the money that was otherwise allocated to this purchase.

I'll just keep spending money to make big holes with JMB's original design.

That sucks. I was going to suggest calling Keith at Dan Wesson. He can do a custom gun for you. A PM-9 with a Novak rear and duty treatment would have been the perfect gun.
 
That sucks. I was going to suggest calling Keith at Dan Wesson. He can do a custom gun for you. A PM-9 with a Novak rear and duty treatment would have been the perfect gun.
This is good to know. I handled a PM9 today and liked it. A lot. I'd be more inclined to buy one of theirs than anything else I have looked at thus far.
 
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This is why I say the science isn't settled.

This is an ejector from Wilson Combat supposedly for 45, 9, and 38 super.

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If you look at the pictures posted in this thread of DW, Colt, and STI 9mm ejectors, it's not exactly like them, and every one of them is different one from the next.

The same is true for magazine designs with 9mm. Spacer no spacer, flex follower, solid follower and feed lips of every type. These days I just buy Tripps.
 
Oh, a DW Custom would be a wonderful thing. Better than a Harley, girlfriend or convertible.
I got rid of the first two, but still have the third.
 
Sounds like a sale is in order. That could found the gun and a fair amount of ammo. Or two guns. Something to leave the sons maybe?
They'll get these, and like them.

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That is what has always kept me away from them. Magazines being a biggy. Plus some of their slide to frame fit leaves a lot to be desired in a $1k gun. I have seen some good ones, and some really ugly ones. I'd just spend about another $300 and get a DW ECO. No comparison.
I have shot and carried an EMP9 for close to 10 years. Love it. Competition guns are full size Springfield 1911s and STI 2011s.
 
Wife put a hold on the washer dryer purchase.

Going to look at a Fusion Firearms "Reaction" when it shows up in a couple of days. I really like some of the features. Extended slide release, recessed hole for slide release on the right side of the frame (which is extra good for me. ask me why later o_O), and it looks to be shipped pretty much like I'd want it, aside from adding an S&A one piece mainspring housing and mag guide (as S&A calls them), and some different grip panels.

https://www.fusionfirearms.com/freedom-series-reaction
 
Wife put a hold on the washer dryer purchase.

Going to look at a Fusion Firearms "Reaction" when it shows up in a couple of days. I really like some of the features. Extended slide release, recessed hole for slide release on the right side of the frame (which is extra good for me. ask me why later o_O), and it looks to be shipped pretty much like I'd want it, aside from adding an S&A one piece mainspring housing and mag guide (as S&A calls them), and some different grip panels.

https://www.fusionfirearms.com/freedom-series-reaction

Fusion is Bob Serva who was the one who re-opened Dan Wesson and then sold it to CZ. The Fusion guns have been very hit or miss. If you get on that runs it is great if not it is a headache. I am interested to hear what you think of the Freedom line.
 
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