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I picked this up from a forum member a year or so ago and haven't done much with it. Got it out yesterday with a buddy to bust some clays. Just a couple guys in an empty field with a simple foot operated trap. Man, we had a blast. This was after we'd set up some steel and blasted away just making noise and having fun with the pistols and rifle.

This CHEAP shotgun - I think I paid somewhere around $350? - worked flawlessly, swung nicely, has a decent (not great) trigger and didn't miss a beat all day. After the 2nd or 3rd pull, I had it figured out and hit ~90% the rest of the day. Shot 100 shells, would have kept going if we'd had more!

My friend's high dollar CZ SXS? 4-5 times he shot "doubles"....as in both barrels with a single trigger pull!

No need to drop thousands of dollars for the occasional clays session, this suits me just fine!

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Good to hear. I always see them in Academy, great prices. Been toying with the idea of getting a 20ga O/U after shooting a couple while at a work clay event and quail hunt (those were the good days). I definitely don’t need one, but would be another good gun to round out the collection and they’re great for clays.

These don’t have ejectors, right?
 
Jerzsubbie said:
These don’t have ejectors, right?
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If by “ejectors” you mean the mechanism that launches spent shells at Mach 3 right smack into your face, then, yes, it has them.
 
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I bought my son a Yildiz semi-auto 20ga a few years back from a forum member. That thing is awesome. Never failed to feed or shoot anything we put in it. I agree with you, don't spend a fortune on a shotgun!
 
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If by “ejectors” you mean the mechanism that launches spent shells at Mach 3 right smack into your face, then, yes, it has them.
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You ain’t kidding. IIRC there is a mod where you can clip the springs to slow them down. Just never got around to it.


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You ain’t kidding. IIRC there is a mod where you can clip the springs to slow them down. Just never got around to it.


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Haha didn’t realize they were rocket ejectors. I was thinking about a CZ but for half the price and as I frequently as I expect to shoot it, I may grab on of these next time Academy puts them on sale.
I shot a Stoeger once and it was mildly annoying that it didn’t have ejectors.
 
I searched high and low for a good cheap O/U for my 1-2 times a years shooting clays. There are a few options under $400, seemingly nothing in the $400-$1,000 range, and everything else in the $1,000+ range.

For the record, @Bailey Boat is the only shotgun snob that hasn’t sneered/snickered at my poor man’s gun when I get it ou of the case at the range. That’s one of the few reasons we keep him around is his tolerance.

My Remington/Baikal SPR-310 also has hypersonic ejectors. I didn’t clip the springs as that just feels sacreligious. I take it as a challenge from my Rooskie comrades who made the thing as to whether or not I’m man enough to use their boomstick. I can usually land the ejecting shells in the hulls bucket. Makes for a great show after smoking two clays. Of course, that only happens every 5th round or so!!!
 
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Haha didn’t realize they were rocket ejectors. I was thinking about a CZ but for half the price and as I frequently as I expect to shoot it, I may grab on of these next time Academy puts them on sale.
I shot a Stoeger once and it was mildly annoying that it didn’t have ejectors.
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The shells were landing about 10 feet behind me after ejection.
 
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The shells were landing about 10 feet behind me after ejection.
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My Remington/Baikal has an option to turn the ejectors off by the half-turn of a screw. Not sure if yours has that...if it’s a problem.
 
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My Remington/Baikal has an option to turn the ejectors off by the half-turn of a screw. Not sure if yours has that...if it’s a problem.
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not a problem once I figured out I don't need to stare at the arse end of the gun whilst breaking it open. Only took me 4-5 times to learn the lesson.
 
Interesting read that rates the Yildiz a D-.

https://www.gun-tests.com/issues/27...-On-Yildiz-Mossberg-26493-1.html#.XFL_CnhOmnM

To summarize, they complain of the trigger guard falling off, rounded off checkering, wood finish not the smoothest, poor chokes, and misfires due to reported soft firing pins.

Frankly, they sound a bit like gun snobs who expect even a budget gun to be at the level of a $1500 gun. Replace the chokes with your choice, understand the wood won’t be the smoothest or prettiest, and thankfully repairing the trigger guard is an easy fix. The firing pin is a big issue in my book. A gun that doesn’t fire reliably doesn’t stay in my home. If they replace it with a better quality pin under warranty, no problem.
 
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Interesting read that rates the Yildiz a D-.

https://www.gun-tests.com/issues/27...-On-Yildiz-Mossberg-26493-1.html#.XFL_CnhOmnM

To summarize, they complain of the trigger guard falling off, rounded off checkering, wood finish not the smoothest, poor chokes, and misfires due to reported soft firing pins.

Frankly, they sound a bit like gun snobs who expect even a budget gun to be at the level of a $1500 gun. Replace the chokes with your choice, understand the wood won’t be the smoothest or prettiest, and thankfully repairing the trigger guard is an easy fix. The firing pin is a big issue in my book. A gun that doesn’t fire reliably doesn’t stay in my home. If they replace it with a better quality pin under warranty, no problem.
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Granted I've not run mine hard at all, but I've not experienced any of these issues. Not a single misfire. In my pic above, I think you can see that the wood is better than acceptable. Chokes are replaceable and not proprietary.
 
Bailey Boat said:
For what you're paying what do you expect?? Pay little, get little. Pay more, get more.... Can't have both...
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I've seen guys with big expensive guns (mainly autos) go down for the day because of some little nuisance with an o-ring or something else (ahem...choke tubes sneaking inside of other choke tubes--but that wasn't the gun's fault!!!). Meanwhile, my sub-$500 beast made of dismantled T-72 tanks kept on chugging...
 
9outof10mms said:
I've seen guys with big expensive guns (mainly autos) go down for the day because of some little nuisance with an o-ring or something else (ahem...choke tubes sneaking inside of other choke tubes--but that wasn't the gun's fault!!!). Meanwhile, my sub-$500 beast made of dismantled T-72 tanks kept on chugging...
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In NO way have I ever faulted the gun for that little mis-step, that one is all on me!!! I learned a $2,000.00 lesson that day, one I won't soon forget.....
 
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Bailey Boat said:
In NO way have I ever faulted the gun for that little mis-step, that one is all on me!!! I learned a $2,000.00 lesson that day, one I won't soon forget.....
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I learned it vicariously through you.

If given the chance, I'd much rather say "I know a guy who..."
 
Jerzsubbie said:
Interesting read that rates the Yildiz a D-.

https://www.gun-tests.com/issues/27...-On-Yildiz-Mossberg-26493-1.html#.XFL_CnhOmnM

To summarize, they complain of the trigger guard falling off, rounded off checkering, wood finish not the smoothest, poor chokes, and misfires due to reported soft firing pins.

Frankly, they sound a bit like gun snobs who expect even a budget gun to be at the level of a $1500 gun. Replace the chokes with your choice, understand the wood won’t be the smoothest or prettiest, and thankfully repairing the trigger guard is an easy fix. The firing pin is a big issue in my book. A gun that doesn’t fire reliably doesn’t stay in my home. If they replace it with a better quality pin under warranty, no problem.
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Since that was my shotgun I can attest to the checkering being anything but rounded when I got it. I had to sand the tops of a little and restain it they were so sharp. More so than my Citori.

That said, there are lot of reports for miss fires or doubles out there on the net, neither of which happened with this one. As to lemon guns, my daughters CZ920 had to be replaced under warranty it was such a pile of crap. The replacement has been flawless.


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I got a 20ga semi for the ladies and kids (and anyone else really) to play with during our shotgun days we have out here. It's a cheapie Hatfield, but I only got the gun to fill a hole in the shotgun lineup and to see if the ladies would like something not a 12 gauge. I wasn't about to spend royal coin on it since I was just trying something to see if my theory is sound. And 20's are ok and all, but not my thing.
Fit & finish are pretty good for the price point. The gun balances well and patterns very well, so that part worked out fine thankfully.
But it took 3 boxes before the gun settled in. FTE was an issue. Then all-of-a-sudden, it cleared up and runs good now. It's ok for range duty, but after the break-in issues I wouldn't rely on it to protect my house.

But when we have these shotgun days, folks show up with all kinds of shottys. Some are really nice, and then some are just amazing in the build quality. Shotguns definitely show the differences when you start spending serious money on them. One of my friends has a Winchester 12ga O/U..don't remember which model but it's not super top end or low end. It's one of the Japanese Winchesters and his wife spent $1000 on it for his birthday.
Can't miss with it. Can't miss. The thing just shoots so good. Functions flawlessly in every respect. Everyone who shoots it loves it because you just can't freakin miss. It's the difference between a Cadillac and a Kia. The Kia gets you there but once you ride in the Caddy, you want a Caddy.

Tim said:
No need to drop thousands of dollars for the occasional clays session, this suits me just fine!
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This is me too. Most of my shotguns are plenty fine for what I do. I have a feeling though if I had a $4000 gun I'd probably do a lot more clay shooting. So I really don't know if I'm doing it right..keep using good shotguns on occasion, or use great shotguns all the time and get hooked. :D

A high-end O/U is most definitely on the wish list.
 
Friday said:
This is me too. Most of my shotguns are plenty fine for what I do. I have a feeling though if I had a $4000 gun I'd probably do a lot more clay shooting. So I really don't know if I'm doing it right..keep using good shotguns on occasion, or use great shotguns all the time and get hooked. :D

A high-end O/U is most definitely on the wish list.
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Don't get me wrong...I dropped over $1,000 on my 3-Gun shotgun. For that purpose, I didn't blink dropping the $$ needed to have reliable and proven gear. It's *this* purpose, busting clays and hanging out with a couple buds that doesn't require top-shelf choices.
 
Same analogy with a race car, don't bring ya Kia to the drag strip on Sunday, it ain't gonna cut it......

What sets a competition level shotgun apart from a casual shotgun is quality and rugged build. I have well north of $5,000.00 in my skeet set up not counting the tubes, chokes and case, It is currently approaching 500,000 rounds with no failures. I expect to have it rebuilt at some point to bring it back to spec and continue toward the million round mark. A $400.00 Yildiz won't make that mark, but it doesn't COST as much either and does it's occasional duty just as well, and as I've said before, it ain't the arrow, it's the Indian......
 
Bailey Boat said:
Same analogy with a race car, don't bring ya Kia to the drag strip on Sunday, it ain't gonna cut it......

What sets a competition level shotgun apart from a casual shotgun is quality and rugged build. I have well north of $5,000.00 in my skeet set up not counting the tubes, chokes and case, It is currently approaching 500,000 rounds with no failures. I expect to have it rebuilt at some point to bring it back to spec and continue toward the million round mark. A $400.00 Yildiz won't make that mark, but it doesn't COST as much either and does it's occasional duty just as well, and as I've said before, it ain't the arrow, it's the Indian......
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You're rare.
In the past when cheap shotguns for skeet would come up about 100% of the replies were don't do it even when the OP would say they rarely ever shot skeet. That always seemed elitist to me, I just can't see spending top dollar for a competition gun when you don't really intend to compete. Kind of like buying an alcohol funny car when you only drag race once a year and honestly running your Kia down the strip is a lot of fun even if it's not 300mph. The argument was always if you don't like the game you can sell the high dollar gun for not much loss but what if you just keep shooting one or two matches a year. Are you really getting the value? At that amount of exposure you're probably not even approaching a skill level that would be able to discern if your barrels weren't in proper alignment vs you just missed.
 
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I do NOT disagree with @Bailey Boat at all. If my intention were to compete, as his posts clearly are geared towards, then I’d drop the $$ on competitive gear.

My whole point in this thread is that sometimes it’s fun to just go have fun - and competition isn’t the goal.

If my gun had failed on a clay that afternoon, it would have meant a snarky comment from my buddy and some good natured “awww. Damn!” And then we would have flung another pair from the $150 foot trap or - gasp - rolled a couple “rabbits” down the lane by hand.

It’s ALL good.
 
Used to have the same gun until I sold it. The LOP was too long for my wife. It was a sweet shooter. No issues whatsoever with the one I had. Fit/finish easily match that of guns costing several times more. Should have kept it for I am now looking to buy a 20ga O/U.
 
This is a really nice looking shotgun for the money. Never shot it, but the finish is more then Id expected for the money you paid for it.
 
9outof10mms said:
I searched high and low for a good cheap O/U for my 1-2 times a years shooting clays. There are a few options under $400, seemingly nothing in the $400-$1,000 range, and everything else in the $1,000+ range.

For the record, @Bailey Boat is the only shotgun snob that hasn’t sneered/snickered at my poor man’s gun when I get it ou of the case at the range. That’s one of the few reasons we keep him around is his tolerance.

My Remington/Baikal SPR-310 also has hypersonic ejectors. I didn’t clip the springs as that just feels sacreligious. I take it as a challenge from my Rooskie comrades who made the thing as to whether or not I’m man enough to use their boomstick. I can usually land the ejecting shells in the hulls bucket. Makes for a great show after smoking two clays. Of course, that only happens every 5th round or so!!!
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IIRC, they can be disabled, see your manual, turn of a screw will change them to extractors.

sorry... i did not read down and saw where others gave the same advice....
 
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I bought a Yildiz sxs .410 brand new a couple to three weeks ago. I was in Academy, killing time waiting for a work meeting to start. Saw what was obviously a .410 and asked to see it. I honestly was overwhelmed by the fit and finish for $430. When I noticed it had screw in chokes and the counter guy said it comes with 5 chokes, I told him I'd take it.

Got it home, drew the outline of a rabbit on a few paper plates, installed the full choke in one barrel and modified in the other, grabbed a box of Remington 3" no. 5's and discovered I had an awesome new bunny gun. 30 yards and both barrels patterned wonderfully. They had an O/U .410 as well, but oddly it was like $70 or $80 more than the sxs. I'm very pleased with mine, had several successful hunts with it.
 
SimpleMan said:
I bought a Yildiz sxs .410 brand new a couple to three weeks ago. I was in Academy, killing time waiting for a work meeting to start. Saw what was obviously a .410 and asked to see it. I honestly was overwhelmed by the fit and finish for $430. When I noticed it had screw in chokes and the counter guy said it comes with 5 chokes, I told him I'd take it.

Got it home, drew the outline of a rabbit on a few paper plates, installed the full choke in one barrel and modified in the other, grabbed a box of Remington 3" no. 5's and discovered I had an awesome new bunny gun. 30 yards and both barrels patterned wonderfully. They had an O/U .410 as well, but oddly it was like $70 or $80 more than the sxs. I'm very pleased with mine, had several successful hunts with it.
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Dude....invite me on your next bunny hunt. I can't find anyone around here that chases rabbits. I'm serious. I have SC hunting license in hand.
 
I’ve looked in the stores at them many times. I would buy it. I hunt with my skeet gun as I am not crazy about semi-auto guns. My issue is with my Grand Lightning Citori I have to be gentle with it. With a less cost gun I wouldn’t care.
 
Slosolo2 said:
and honestly running your Kia down the strip is a lot of fun even if it's not 300mph.
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lol this made me remember.
I used to bracket race..1974 Dodge Dart w/440 magnum. The car was a freak. I had it geared to run low 11's but on a cool night it would get into the 10's.
The whole idea is to run the same time every time. I had to watch for the shift light, shift, keep the car straight, keep the tires from spinning up, don't red-light...flying a plane is easier.
I'd be 11:14, 11:55, 11: 28...and you get DQ'd if you run faster than your set time (breaking out), but you also had to run closer to it than the guy next to you. Consistency wins, not horsepower.
I got beat one night by a guy in a..Chevette. He might have took the air cleaner off but it appeared bone stock.
All he did was leave it in drive and floor it. The car did the same thing every time.... 21:02. 21:02, 21:02.
Twenty-one second quarters at like 88 mph and he gets in the money. Well done sir.

Back to Tim's thoughts, when I was in my 20's I visited a friend in Florida. He took me to a range where they had a 5 bay skeet setup. I'd never been to one, had no shotgun either. But my buddy had some kind of stainless 870 Marine riot 12ga with an 18" barrel. Um yeah I guess..it's a shotgun right? What do I know. So I line up with 4 other guys who were prepared for the game with all the cool stuff, and they all look at me with kind of a sneer. I realized then that maybe I was going after more than I could chew.
I shot 23/25..better than some of the other guys with the engraved receivers. Only one of them came up to me afterwards and said 'good shooting'...encouraging a newbie.
A $400 gun and a box of crap ammo.
Consistency wins, not horsepower.
 
They're on Academy Hot Deal right now for $399

and.... I'm broke from home improvement investing this week
 
I’ve had this in the back of my head for a while and just saw it in the BF as for $329! I’m quite tempted to grab one, we’ll see...

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I bought that new and then sold it to a forum member but I'm not sure if it's Tim's gun. In any case, it's a hell of a gun for ~$400.

If you are going to shoot a lot you're still better off with a Browning or Beretta.
 
Also, jmho, but ejectors are so much better than extractors. Open the gun, pop the shells into your hand, toss shells into bucket.

It's like ballet. :)
 
Academy’s BF sale started today so I went over and grabbed the gun.

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The counter guy and I were both pleasantly surprised to see the tiger striping on the wood. Looks really good IMO. I’m very excited to go shoot some clays tomorrow afternoon!

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I almost can’t believe this thing was only $350 OTD. Includes 5 chokes and basic wrench too. I’ve read numerous complaints about the OE buttpad so I already ordered a new limbsaver supposedly made for these, only $23.

If I’m being critical, I can see where they saved a few bucks.
Wood finish: it’s not super smooth, could use a wet sand and polish. I found one bubble in the clear.
Blueing: the supports between the barrels, and to a smaller degree the rib, were machined with a rounded tool and the finish did not take very well in those spots. The barrels and sides of rib could have been polished a bit, ever so slightly rough to the touch.
Latch: the folding latch isn’t perfectly lined up down the center when the action is closed.
Fit: handguard to receiver fit is slightly off in a couple spots
Checkering: not as precise as I’ve seen on other rifles/shotguns, definitely on the “rounded” side.

These imperfections are to be expected at this price IMO and they don’t bother me one bit. Had I spent over $1k, I might feel differently but I have more expensive 10/22’s haha.
 
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Fortunately that folding latch shouldnt be lined up down the center. Nice guns for the money.

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