Zombie deer

On the one hand, great. On the other, ever seen a deer that lost it’s lower jaw? Not knocking the headshot, it’s great, but the hunter needs to be fully aware of their limitations...it is not a shot for the new hunter imho.
This is true for some but he has been to the NATO sniper school and is a far better shot than most. The deer was facing him and the 35 blew the top of the head off, went into its back, out the bottom, into the back leg, breaking the leg. He shot one last year the with 308 in the side of the head, both DRT. He also uses 338 lapua. Ive seen them with the backs blown off and living through it due to poor shooting. Ive seen them gut shot and rotting from where they were never recovered. when people are doing the shooting there is all types of things that could go wrong.
 
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Sugar coating terms is one way of looking at it. Another way is using language that the younger (future hunters) can relate to.

A different type of hunter, who sees value in not alienating those who have different views. Using sugar rather than vinager, so to speak.

You fellas understand that the tradition of hunting is in danger of simply falling out of fashion right?
Do you know why it's falling out of fashion? Please, take some stabs at it.[/QUOTE]

I honestly do not buy into this. I have two sons and a daughter. Between these three, there are over 30 kids (young adults) associated with our household. All of them are more serious about hunting, and conservation than anyone else I know. Hell, my own boys introduced me to duck hunting. I think your thoughts are a product of your own environment. The country folks don’t get the coverage the city folks do. I personally credit Duck Dynasty, as silly as it sounds, to getting a lot of young kids into hunting, because they made it “cool”.
 
Sugar coating terms is one way of looking at it. Another way is using language that the younger (future hunters) can relate to.

A different type of hunter, who sees value in not alienating those who have different views. Using sugar rather than vinager, so to speak.

You fellas understand that the tradition of hunting is in danger of simply falling out of fashion right?
Do you know why it's falling out of fashion? Please, take some stabs at it.

I honestly do not buy into this. I have two sons and a daughter. Between these three, there are over 30 kids (young adults) associated with our household. All of them are more serious about hunting, and conservation than anyone else I know. Hell, my own boys introduced me to duck hunting. I think your thoughts are a product of your own environment. The country folks don’t get the coverage the city folks do. I personally credit Duck Dynasty, as silly as it sounds, to getting a lot of young kids into hunting, because they made it “cool”.[/QUOTE]Yup. My kids are serious hunters to the point they make me go even when Im trying to sleep in [emoji6]
 
Humane harvest now thats a liberal buzzword for protect us from those evil hunters. Pure unadulterated BS just like the "I believe in the 2A but..."

Maybe we should hunt au naturale, like the rest on the animal kingdom. You know...because if it's natural, it MUST be good, right?

So, I say we run down a naturally terrified deer on foot, tackle it bare handed, and rip its throat out with our teeth.

'Cause...natural is better!
 
Most young boys and teens I have talked to that wanted to hunt and didn't hunt had one simple reason. Dad was not around to teach them.

There are a lot of reasons, lots of them Chad covered. But mean words are not likely one of the reasons.

Anti hunters come in several forms.

The ones that are really just apathetic and ignorant of what actually happens. Those you might be able to get too. Mainly because they don't like what they don't know. And some education might help.

The ones that don't like it because of the hunter/hunting stereotypes. Those are a bit harder to reach but maybe not impossible. Still, I'll use whatever words that come to mind to make my point. Might be field dress, might be gut. Might be process, might be butcher. Might be finish it off, might be cut it's throat. I make my arguments in reality, and the reality can be pretty rough.

The militant anti hunter. Piss on them. They don't feel any different about us either. Those folks you have to fight. There is no reason. No more interest in change than Brady or Feinstein.

My daughters went to the 4H Fur, fish, and game weekend. The youngest went through Hunter Education that week. But for both weeks the wardens brought in a deer and processed it right there in front to them, start to finish. Then they ate it the next day. At some point you have to make the mental jump to the reality that hunting is a dirty business if you are successful. And things don't always go the way you want.

BTW, if we are going to talk about negative connotations and stereotypes were did you get the idea it was a small caliber? The entrance wound won't tell you that. Heck, the exit wound might not either if it does not expand. Did you just assume the young lady shot it with too small a rifle? Maybe. But IMO assuming you know it's a small caliber because it was a teenage girl is up there with blaming this for liberals hating hunting. Not exactly promoting a welcoming environment for that young lady are you?
 
I have to agree that it sucks the deer wasn’t dead, but sometimes it happens. My personal belief is that as hunters we should do the best we can to keep the critter from suffering. Some times though things happen and we have to accept that possibility when we go into the woods.
 
The only thing I'm going to say is if a 15 year old took that deer she is ruined for life LMAO. My first deer was a small 8 point, I think the number of points was more inches than the spread.

Taking a buck like the one in this thread is awesome but she might spend the rest of her life disappointed because you don't see them like that often. That is a huge rack.
She maybe be 16,- 18 now it's been several years. I haven't seen her dad since she was 6-7 sitting in a stand with him or sitting in a truck with him when she was smaller. But I wouldn't doubt she'll kill some more good deer just like her and Dad have, but this is her best to date.
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