Check in if you're not getting the COVID "vaccine."
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fishgutzy
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Not getting. Neither is my wife. I never get the flu shot nor the flu. My wife and kids got the flu shpt and still got the flu bad several times. Even then, I did not get the flu from them.
The CDC would try to beg my wife to get the C19 jab. She has multiple autoimmune conditions, on two immunosuppressant drugs. These drugs actually boost her immune response to viruses. [A 3rd drug she is on also provides protection against colon cancer in crohns patients]
The CDC would try to beg my wife to get the C19 jab. She has multiple autoimmune conditions, on two immunosuppressant drugs. These drugs actually boost her immune response to viruses. [A 3rd drug she is on also provides protection against colon cancer in crohns patients]
Not at all correct. I had it Feb mar 2020. March 26 2021 still showed significant antibodies
It is factually correct that antibodies diminish over time, which is why those who are in hyper-immune plasma donation receive higher compensation for their "donations." It is not a permanent thing.
Agreed. Until then, I don’t want to be part of the guinea pig group. I have no reason to get it right now. I’m young (mid-30’s), healthy, work from home, and don’t know anyone “high risk”.
When it’s fully approved AND I don’t see people growing 11th toes or fingers AND I have a reason to get it AND the drug companies are liable for major side effects, then I’ll get it.
So far, my employer has been very careful to say that they have no plans to force anyone to get it. I’ve noticed this trend with employers, so I imagine there’s already a law that prohibits them from doing so.
I don’t have any issue with those who DO want the vaccine; have at it, do you, but leave me alone.
While I agree. 90 days isn't the said and done.
Not that I'm going to get the Vax, but was told if I did I'd need to wait at least 3 to 6 more months. And this is per the cdc is Atlanta
fishgutzy
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As expected, the CDC and ME's are doing the exact opposite of what is done with COIVD death reporting.Whether Pro or Anti Vax,
Big Pharma & Bro use numbers that favor their story, so unless one dives into the data / info you will not receive a clear picture.
CDC: 2,509 Deaths Following Experimental COVID-19 “Vaccines” Now Equal to Total Deaths Recorded After Vaccines for the Past Decade
However, the most up-to-date number of deaths following COVID-19 emergency use authorized injections was reported earlier this week on March 30th on the CDC website which stated 2,509 deaths have been reported through March 29, 2021 following experimental COVID-19 injections.
So in just a little over 3 months since the FDA gave emergency use authorization (EUA) for experimental COVID-19 injections to be tested on the American population, as many deaths have been recorded following those experimental injections as deaths recorded to VAERS following FDA approved vaccines for the period starting January 1, 2010 and ending December 31, 2020, a period of 11 years spanning an entire decade.
And yet, the CDC remains adamant that not a single death recorded after an experimental COVID-19 “vaccine” had anything to do with those “vaccines.”
CDC: 2,509 Deaths Following Experimental COVID-19 “Vaccines” Now Equal to Total Deaths Recorded After Vaccines for the Past Decade - Conservative Choice Campaign
by Brian Shilhavy Editor, Health Impact News Yesterday (April 2, 2021) the CDC released more data into their Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a U.S. Government funded database that tracks injuries and deaths caused by vaccines. The data in VAERS now goes through March 26, 2021...conservativechoicecampaign.com
Also, if Pfizer is handed "Full FDA Approval" do they lose their "Tail Light Guarantee" here in our USA?
Pfizer Demands Nations Put Up Collateral to Cover Vaccine Injury Lawsuits
Story at-a-glance:
- Pfizer is demanding countries put up sovereign assets, including bank reserves, military bases and embassy buildings, as collateral for expected vaccine injury lawsuits resulting from its COVID-19 inoculation.
- Argentina and Brazil have rejected Pfizer’s demands. According to legal experts, Pfizer is abusing its power.
- In the U.S., vaccine makers already enjoy full indemnity against injuries occurring from the COVID-19 vaccine under the PREP Act. If you’re injured, you’d have to file a compensation claim with the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which is funded by U.S. taxpayers.
- A significant problem with the CICP is that it’s administered within the Department of Health and Human Services, which is also sponsoring the COVID-19 vaccination program. This conflict of interest makes the CICP less likely to admit fault with the vaccine.
- The maximum CICP payout you can receive — even in cases of permanent disability or death — is $250,000 per person, and you first have to exhaust your private insurance policy before the CICP kicks in.
Employers that mandate the COVID-19 vaccine will also be indemnified from liability for side effects. Instead, claims will be routed through worker’s compensation programs.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...ateral-vaccine-injury-lawsuits/?itm_term=home
Anyone who dies within 28 days of a positive test are automatically listed as a COVID death even if it is blunt for trauma from getting hit by a bus or train.
But anyone who dies within hours or even a few day after the jab is listed as a death due to something else.
No death certificate ever list dementia as the cause of death. The COD is typically listed as pulmonary failure.
CDC is playing games.
My wife's nephew nearly died from the vax and that was with immediate emergency medical intervention.
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Do we know this to be universally true? Legit question, I have no idea. For example, chicken pox. Once you get it, in 80 years your titers will show antibodies.
I know with COVID antibodies in some testing have diminished over time: so far (knowing things change and insert Bayes' theorem here) they all seem to diminish over time; has any one (sex, race, ethnicity, etc.) had any antibodies persist?
I work in the industry that produces products from people with active titers. Once it gets below a certain level, it becomes next to impossible to detect the presence until you become infected again.
NO, I don't want to become a GMO. The risk of me dying in a car wreck is a higher than me dying from covid, and I continue to drive where ever I need to. We all deal with risk every day. When my number is up, its up, no matter what the reason and I'm not going to worry about it.
My MIL had the rona, Mar '20 and never had a symptom. She recently got the shots, because her boyfriend is 86, and she has been sick ever since.
My MIL had the rona, Mar '20 and never had a symptom. She recently got the shots, because her boyfriend is 86, and she has been sick ever since.
Ikarus1
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Yet. It's experimental gene therapy with unknown future effects on health. Period.
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Go ahead and drop the mic now.
We are wonderfully made with an immune system fined tuned over at least several millenia
1.) No matter how toxic (which I don't think it is), the Covid vaccine can't compare to the shit I've poured into and onto my body over the years. You know how your body is a temple? Mine's a laboratory.
2.) I don't believe any grand conspiracy. The forces that be are just as damn ignorant as the puppets they prop up. I don't ascribe to evil what can properly be explained as stupidity. I don't have faith in the same government that can't get a package from Butner, NC to Boger City, NC in less than 3 weeks to properly poison me with some sort of medical subterfuge.
3.) For a society so concerned with the health and safety of those around them, the majority of folks live, drive, eat, and work like clueless morons with their heads up their asses and ABSOLUTE ZERO concern for their fellow human beings. Like all humans, I'm hypocritical, but I strive for better. I won't be getting a vaccine to pat myself on the back and posting selfies with my gay-ass vaccine sticker while weaving through traffic.
4.) I'm a rebellious, disobedient SOB that won't be getting a damn thing anybody tells me. Seriously. I barely follow any rules I don't care for now. 2019 was the year I finally started wearing a seatbelt.
5.) If somebody slips the vaccine in a bottle of Bombay Sapphire, there is a slight chance I'll end up vaccinated.
2.) I don't believe any grand conspiracy. The forces that be are just as damn ignorant as the puppets they prop up. I don't ascribe to evil what can properly be explained as stupidity. I don't have faith in the same government that can't get a package from Butner, NC to Boger City, NC in less than 3 weeks to properly poison me with some sort of medical subterfuge.
3.) For a society so concerned with the health and safety of those around them, the majority of folks live, drive, eat, and work like clueless morons with their heads up their asses and ABSOLUTE ZERO concern for their fellow human beings. Like all humans, I'm hypocritical, but I strive for better. I won't be getting a vaccine to pat myself on the back and posting selfies with my gay-ass vaccine sticker while weaving through traffic.
4.) I'm a rebellious, disobedient SOB that won't be getting a damn thing anybody tells me. Seriously. I barely follow any rules I don't care for now. 2019 was the year I finally started wearing a seatbelt.
5.) If somebody slips the vaccine in a bottle of Bombay Sapphire, there is a slight chance I'll end up vaccinated.
I appreciate the thought, but I was really asking an honest question... I understand that this virus, like most, mutates and evolves. While the fearmongers push concerns that the mutations of nCOV are more dangerous than the original, my understanding is that most viruses mutate into LESS dangerous versions. What is the difference now?
I have also found research that says the vaccines developed for SARS COV 1 failed for, among other things, causing antibody-dependent enhancement and liver damage (or at least the markers of such). I sure would appreciate a clear explanation of how the new vaccines/therapies are different than those original attempts to create a vax for SARS COV 1 before I would consider taking one.
My wife, type 2 diabetic, got her second injection, both daughters too. I'm passing, let somebody in higher risk take my dose.
I work retail p/t, back in February the entire store was sick, I was off that week, had a 104F temp for 24 hours and back to normal.
Many of us belive we had CV. I told my wife my Italian ancestors consumed bats.
I work retail p/t, back in February the entire store was sick, I was off that week, had a 104F temp for 24 hours and back to normal.
Many of us belive we had CV. I told my wife my Italian ancestors consumed bats.
No. If you do not have any other complications since your initial infection, your immune system should be able to produce a similar result. Variants will likely be treated in a like manner.
From what I've seen, the resulting hospitalizations and deaths aren't that significant alone. Those who have compromised immune systems or other complications may have some considerations, but not for the general public.
Agreed. As with any virus, it'll affect a few of us adversely. What the media, government, and doctors want us all to believe is that man is the master of their future, which simply is not the case. We're not going to live forever, nor are we going to find a cure to every disease/virus.
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I didn't want to start a new thread, but I noticed Google's animation today.
The letters are people and they realize they are too close and wearing only one mask. So, they slap on extra masks and spread out.
Sheesh.
The letters are people and they realize they are too close and wearing only one mask. So, they slap on extra masks and spread out.
Sheesh.
Chuckman
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I just now saw that. The propaganda machine driving along.
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No way no how. Frig Jammin Joe and his flunkies
What if youre not sure?
Right now Im at a 'no.'
Right now Im not into getting the vaccine, doesnt interest me...but I think of the future and see it in my future possibly.
Gosh I hate needles, HATE. I dont get shots, dont get my blood drawn.
But I also love to travel. I also love to go to shows (concerts).
I worry that if I dont have the vaccine that in the future I wont get to do the things that I enjoy. ANd for that I think it might be in my future.
But Im holding out, Im hoping it fades out sooner rather than later.
Right now Im at a 'no.'
Right now Im not into getting the vaccine, doesnt interest me...but I think of the future and see it in my future possibly.
Gosh I hate needles, HATE. I dont get shots, dont get my blood drawn.
But I also love to travel. I also love to go to shows (concerts).
I worry that if I dont have the vaccine that in the future I wont get to do the things that I enjoy. ANd for that I think it might be in my future.
But Im holding out, Im hoping it fades out sooner rather than later.
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This guy is the anti vax poster guy. Too much to link here, but the 2nd one is sad. Full of people who got the shot then died of "natural causes" a few days later.
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CDC claims no deaths from vaccine? - GreatAwakening
I watched the CBS morning show to see what the MSM is reporting as "news" today, and they reported that the CDC has done
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Had covid at Xmas. Got BAM infusion on the advice of my Drs office (nurse or PA) but not the Dr (curious?) Got first shot of funky cold Moderna the other day. Had covid symptoms for 2 days. Pfizer says they have data that say their vax is effective for 6 months (WHAT?) Scheduled to get 2nd shot in 3 weeks. My gunsmith who almost died from Covid got first shot, no reaction, 2nd shot yesterday and they told him YOU WILL BE SICK FOR 2 DAYS. He is sick today, fever and headache. I may not get 2nd shot.
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I genuinely hope that these "vaccines" are as safe as they appear to be right now. I have doubts, something I read about the part of them that suppress your type 2 immune response which may not manifest anything negative for years till you are exposed to a common cold corona.
I am not getting it for other reasons. Several years ago, I was given Levaquin for a non existent sinus infection. Negative swab, no infection, but as insurance will not pay for a CT till you have done a course of antibiotics and steroids, they were prescribed. Fluoroquinolones (Cipro, Levaquin, Avalox, etc) are more of a chemo drug that an antibiotic, pure poison. Back then they had a black box warning, it has been expanded a few times since. They was no justification for such a powerful and dangerous drug. A month later, I got the last flu shot I will ever have. That evening the bomb went off. I could not walk. After three days in the hospital with zero diagnosis, I went home (on my feet) It effected my brain, blew out an elbow tendon (had to be surgically repaired), TMJ, planar fasciitis, and 10x'd my tinnitus. Us "floxies" have had to do out own research. It was likely the thimerosal in the flu shot that did me in as fluoroquinolone toxicity is partly a heavy metal poisoning. My health has improved over the years but there is lingering permanent damage.
The covid vaccine could do me a great deal of harm. I will not risk it.
Only a fool would not do their own research with any treatment or drug your doctor recommends.
I am not getting it for other reasons. Several years ago, I was given Levaquin for a non existent sinus infection. Negative swab, no infection, but as insurance will not pay for a CT till you have done a course of antibiotics and steroids, they were prescribed. Fluoroquinolones (Cipro, Levaquin, Avalox, etc) are more of a chemo drug that an antibiotic, pure poison. Back then they had a black box warning, it has been expanded a few times since. They was no justification for such a powerful and dangerous drug. A month later, I got the last flu shot I will ever have. That evening the bomb went off. I could not walk. After three days in the hospital with zero diagnosis, I went home (on my feet) It effected my brain, blew out an elbow tendon (had to be surgically repaired), TMJ, planar fasciitis, and 10x'd my tinnitus. Us "floxies" have had to do out own research. It was likely the thimerosal in the flu shot that did me in as fluoroquinolone toxicity is partly a heavy metal poisoning. My health has improved over the years but there is lingering permanent damage.
The covid vaccine could do me a great deal of harm. I will not risk it.
Only a fool would not do their own research with any treatment or drug your doctor recommends.
Got my second shot a week ago, no ill effects other than an inflammatory immune response at the injection site lasting fewer than 48 hours.
The risk of dying from the vaccine (2,800 vaccine correlated deaths out of 170,000,000 doses received by Americans) is lower than the risk of accidentally strangling oneself in their bedsheets (7,000 deaths annually out of 330,000,000 million Americans). Figured I might as well take it. Who knows, maybe I’ll become a walking 5G tower.
The risk of dying from the vaccine (2,800 vaccine correlated deaths out of 170,000,000 doses received by Americans) is lower than the risk of accidentally strangling oneself in their bedsheets (7,000 deaths annually out of 330,000,000 million Americans). Figured I might as well take it. Who knows, maybe I’ll become a walking 5G tower.
You're prolonging the pandemic, according to the AP. But the vaccine doesn't prevent contracting or transmitting. But if you don't get it you're making other people sick.
abcnews.go.com
Vaccine skepticism runs deep among white evangelicals in US
A recent photo posted online of the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, America’s largest evangelical denomination, getting the COVID-19 vaccine drew more than 1,100 comments
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Mass confusion in which vaccine thread some should be posting in. One is to check in if you ARE getting it...one for if you AREN’T. This is the AREN’T thread. 🤣
For a young healthy person I see absolutely no need to get it. For the older and those with comorbidities, probably worth it.
For me, no thanks, just too many unknowns.
There is one big unknown that makes the risk factor too high for me: ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). I read about early vaccine development for cats against feline coronavirus; the first vaccine attempts (mNRA based) worked to prevent feline coronavirus illness but had the side effect of making the vaccinated cats vulnerable to a "cousin" of the virus, called FIP, that gets passed through fecal matter. The vaccinated cats, when exposed to FIP, all got severe cases and died, 100% of the test subjects (poor kitties). The "fake" antibodies produced by mNRA made the FIP virus grow alarmingly fast due to ADE. The cats who had developed natural antibodies, however, got mildly sick with FIP and survived. The virus was quickly abandoned. A similar thing happened with humans with a failed vaccine for Dengue fever in the Phillipines just a few years back (though not specifically related to ADE). Huge numbers of children were given the Dengue vaccine before they found a problem that make some percentage of kids get really sick and die when exposed to the virus. People went to prison over that one, I think.
I have more confidence in non-experimental vaccine platforms; if the Novavax (isolate protein subunit) is approved soon, the method is close to the vaccine in use for Hep V and the Shingrix vaccine. I may go that route, but I'll pass on the mNRA.
For me, no thanks, just too many unknowns.
There is one big unknown that makes the risk factor too high for me: ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). I read about early vaccine development for cats against feline coronavirus; the first vaccine attempts (mNRA based) worked to prevent feline coronavirus illness but had the side effect of making the vaccinated cats vulnerable to a "cousin" of the virus, called FIP, that gets passed through fecal matter. The vaccinated cats, when exposed to FIP, all got severe cases and died, 100% of the test subjects (poor kitties). The "fake" antibodies produced by mNRA made the FIP virus grow alarmingly fast due to ADE. The cats who had developed natural antibodies, however, got mildly sick with FIP and survived. The virus was quickly abandoned. A similar thing happened with humans with a failed vaccine for Dengue fever in the Phillipines just a few years back (though not specifically related to ADE). Huge numbers of children were given the Dengue vaccine before they found a problem that make some percentage of kids get really sick and die when exposed to the virus. People went to prison over that one, I think.
I have more confidence in non-experimental vaccine platforms; if the Novavax (isolate protein subunit) is approved soon, the method is close to the vaccine in use for Hep V and the Shingrix vaccine. I may go that route, but I'll pass on the mNRA.
Everyone who is not planning to get the vaccine should watch this video; it is well worth the 30 minutes.
Thread 'C-19: Mike Yeadon - Disagrees with Liberal Politicians, “Cold Positives”, “Anti-Bodies vs T-Cells”, “C-19 PCR test would not be admissible in court”' https://carolinafirearmsforum.com/i...test-would-not-be-admissible-in-court”.86065/
Thread 'C-19: Mike Yeadon - Disagrees with Liberal Politicians, “Cold Positives”, “Anti-Bodies vs T-Cells”, “C-19 PCR test would not be admissible in court”' https://carolinafirearmsforum.com/i...test-would-not-be-admissible-in-court”.86065/
this is the check in if you are NOT getting the vaccine AND the criticize/belittle those that are not getting the vaccine thread
the other one is the check in if you ARE getting the vaccine AND criticize/belittle those that are getting it thread
got it?
Mostly correct except the other thread is for checking in if you ARE getting the vaccine BUT don’t dare criticize/belittle those getting it, per the creator of that thread 🤣