How Long is the Ammo Shortage Going to Last?

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"Personally, I wouldn’t have much objection to banning high capacity magazines."

Personally, I wouldn’t have much objection to banning LOW capacity magazines.

AJoldfart said:

"Personally, I wouldn’t have much objection to banning high capacity magazines."

Personally, I wouldn’t have much objection to banning LOW capacity magazines.

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My point is that it's all relative. 30rds is "standard" capacity. Wanna ban high capacity mags to satisfy the grabbers? Fine, enact some law that says you can't have a 2,000rd clipazine that attaches to your fully semi automatic AR14. They'll be happy because gun legislation is all about performative action.

If the powers that be REALLY wanted to curb gun violence, they'd invest in the underlying causes like a lack of mental healthcare support, institutional poverty, stuff like that. But that's all too hard. It's easier to just say "NOBODY CAN HAVE SCARY BLACK GUNS WITH ASSAULT CLIPS" and congratulate each other while people are still dying in the streets because we didn't fix anything.

Sigogglin said:

My point is that it's all relative. 30rds is "standard" capacity. Wanna ban high capacity mags to satisfy the grabbers? Fine, enact some law that says you can't have a 2,000rd clipazine that attaches to your fully semi automatic AR14. They'll be happy because gun legislation is all about performative action.

If the powers that be REALLY wanted to curb gun violence, they'd invest in the underlying causes like a lack of mental healthcare support, institutional poverty, stuff like that. But that's all too hard. It's easier to just say "NOBODY CAN HAVE SCARY BLACK GUNS WITH ASSAULT CLIPS" and congratulate each other while people are still dying in the streets because we didn't fix anything.

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But what if I want to have a 2001+rd belt of ammo?

Desolo said:

But what if I want to have a 2001+rd belt of ammo?

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Not a detachable assault clipazine. You're good.

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If the powers that be REALLY wanted to curb gun violence, they'd invest in the underlying causes like a lack of mental healthcare support, institutional poverty, stuff like that. But that's all too hard. It's easier to just say "NOBODY CAN HAVE SCARY BLACK GUNS WITH ASSAULT CLIPS" and congratulate each other while people are still dying in the streets because we didn't fix anything"

I Know Better.....it's all about destroying the USA and stealing the tax payers blind. The only gun violence they are concerned with is gun violence against the powers that be!

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Till people quit buying every round the find whether the need it or not. I see people buying ammo and surely don't need it.

I actually found 9mm today at Academy. Fairly reasonable prices. First time in over a year that I bought 9mm. I felt I had to because I started to run through all my stash ammo. I wasn't thrilled about the retail price, because I usually buy in bulk. But today's climate, it is what it is.

Have gun-will travel said:

Till people quit buying every round the find whether the need it or not. I see people buying ammo and surely don't need it.

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Need is all relative.

Why do you NEED an AR?
Why do you NEED an AK?
Why do you NEED a gun?
Why do you NEED more than a box of 9mm?

I'm a fairly young guy, but at least I heeded the advice of stacking high and deep. I'm feeling pretty good about myself these days, and I have no remorse for buying a lot when I did.


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IrishCannon said:

Need is all relative.

Why do you NEED an AR?
Why do you NEED an AK?
Why do you NEED a gun?
Why do you NEED more than a box of 9mm?

I'm a fairly young guy, but at least I heeded the advice of stacking high and deep. I'm feeling pretty good about myself these days, and I have no remorse for buying a lot when I did.


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Buying guns and ammo has been my passion most of my life .started before I could legally own one .also collect knives too. Buy cheap and stack deep has always been my motto..pisses me off that people are buying ammo that shooters want and need but they don't even own a gun.They are trying to buy and sell it at s huge profit. Every gun owner NEEDS to buy all they want and need. Need and want are two different things. Have a gun? Then you need ammo !!!!!You need an AR to protect you home and family. Doesn't the president have people protecting him with one among many other guns. An AK hell yeah, and you need more than a box of 9mm ammo to fill up all your mags for your 9 mm pistol and your PISTOL caliber carbine. What do mean you don't have a pcc. .I personally think you need a pistol and a rifle in same caliber. Then you only have to find ammo in one caliber unless you have several combos.

I was fortunate that I was around for the last 2 ammo shortages, I learned my lessons then. I have been buying ammo since the late 90's. I never really stop shooting during this whole f'd up situation. That's why you prepare. Two things that will always be traded are guns and ammo. If someone got caught slipping during this shortage, especially if they have been shooting for more than 10 years thats on them. You could find 9mm on the shelves for less than $10 a box, that is when you should have bought it. That when I did. I can't complain about people marking up prices on ammo, this is what our society is built on. You have a choice don't buy it.

Desolo said:

But what if I want to have a 2001+rd belt of ammo?

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I went back over my records, because I usually buy in bulk. I purchased 2k rounds in 2019, and when COVID popped off is when I was going to restock. I hadn't gone through my supply yet I just wanted to get more while i had the cash. I have about 300 rounds of that 2k left on top of another 1200 in random brands. I think that this is the longest I had(past tense) gone without purchasing ammo. I have reloading supplies and a press packed up in the attic. If it last another 18-24 month i'll start reloading again. I don't see that happening because I am seeing ammo in the stores and online, the prices will level out once the supply catches up.

Circa 2016:




Plenty more where that came from.

These are from 2019.



Early 2020


Availability is getting better. Pricing is not. Brass cased 9mm right now at in bulk is $.50 + tax and delivery. You can "smurf" it for $.30-$.40 if you have the time and enough smurfs. I am still hopeful that with Remington back online it will get to $.30 by the end of the year.

I'm glad that I don't shoot much handgun ammo anymore. I do the wizard drill which is fine for me and saves a lot of ammo. I still have a grand or more of pistol ammo so I'm good for years at this rate. I shoot rifles and I handload every round. I went by one of my LGS the other day and was talking to the owner who is an avid shooter. When I mentioned how many components I had on hand I saw him wince and say wow, damn! Coming from a guy that a year ago could get whatever he wanted kind of made me feel good. I do need to pick up a few more bullets though. Anyway, the present prices on loaded ammo do not bother me at all. I may start getting into a bind around 2026-27.

Availability definitely getting better but man pricing is still way up! Guess that’s the way it works and glad we are reaching a supply/demand equilibrium

nettereo16 said:

Availability definitely getting better but man pricing is still way up! Guess that’s the way it works and glad we are reaching a supply/demand equilibrium

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Yep. No incentive to drop the price until it sits on the shelf a while.

Just wanted to bump this with some more anecdotal experience from various regions of the country.

Florida panhandle, 3 weeks ago: Hunting/bolt action calibers almost fully stocked. Pistol selection, especially revolver/lever calibers nonexistent. Common NATO calibers extant but lower stock than normal. Don't remember any prices, but I think I paid $18/box for some FMJ .380

Chicagoland Last Week: Most shelves bare of anything except safari calibers.

Atlanta Metro: Small shops are looking pretty healthily stocked, but are generally higher priced than big box stores. I stopped at a couple Academys and noticed that both the ones I went to have dispensed with the ammo-on-a-cart deal and are back to stocking shelves. 12ga target loads out the ass, but $0.40cpr. .45 fmj in spades for $0.70cpr. Lots of M855 for $14/box, lots of 7.62x39 for $9.99/box

Minneapolis Area This Week: Major retailers fully stocked. I went in a HUGE gun shop in the middle of nowhere, and they had three pallets full of Winchester 55 grain target .223 for $0.70cpr. That was on a printed sign with a price of $0.90cpr scrawled out and the new price written in sharpie. The tops of the boxes were gathering dust, even at that price. They were fully stocked on whatever you wanted except 7.62x39 oddly enough. I thought about shipping home a crate of surplus 8mm Mauser, but then thought better of it, even at $0.50cpr. I stopped in a Scheels and they were fully stocked, and probably had the fairest prices I've seen in ages. 200 round packs of Winchester .45acp JHP for $0.70cpr. .45ACP FMJ for $0.50cpr. $0.25cpr for target load 12ga. $0.85cpr for 12ga slugs. Again, shelves slam full of Winchester 5.56 and .223 both for about $0.60cpr.

Just for fun I got on Armslist and searched for ammo in Minneapolis. It's plumb full of people trying to scalp the same stuff that Scheels is overflowing with for 1.5-2x more than you can buy it in the store.

IF Trump is allowed to take office, when elected to his THIRD term in 2024, I'd expect prices to BEGIN dropping by the 2026 mid-terms (same as they did in 2018!).

Unless of course, the anqueefers, Dumbass Lives DON'T Matter, Crackas Be Protestin', et.al. go FULL RETARD, and decide to protest that election in standard libtard fashion (burn/loot/destroy unrelated things).

Ammos are available now
Just prices are high compare to before
This is just the new norm

Kingding said:

Ammos are available now
Just prices are high compare to before
This is just the new norm

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I disagree. Prices for pretty much everything peaked in mid-January and have been consistently trending down since. Poke around some at the link below. It may not go back to 2018-2019 lows, but we're on the back end of the bell curve, at least until some other manufactured crisis.

Until it's over

Sigogglin said:

I disagree. Prices for pretty much everything peaked in mid-January and have been consistently trending down since. Poke around some at the link below. It may not go back to 2018-2019 lows, but we're on the back end of the bell curve, at least until some other manufactured crisis.

223 Rem Ammo Price History - Ammo Prices Now - Price Tracker

View charts for the cost of 223 Rem ammo prices. See price trends for 223 Rem and know when to buy. Price history ranges from $0.32 - $0.98

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We are getting really close to $.30 9mm brass cased ammo available every day of the week. I have said it before and I will say it again I think we will see $300 cases shipped to your house by the end of the year. That is higher than it was in 2019 when you could do the same for $165-$185 but it is certainly better than it was in almost all of 2020. Most of the panic buyers are out of the market. Civilization did not come to an shoot out in the street winner takes all Armageddon. The people who bought on fear are no longer in the market. They learned a hard lesson paying $700 for $165 worth of 9mm. I predict by this time in 2022 we will be back under $200 a case.

No ammo shortage at Rural King in Jasper, IN. Pandemic level prices but no purchase limit and plenty of availability. I did buy several boxes of Norma 9mm for $19.99, a 500 ct box of Norma Tac-22 for $69.99. They had lots of 22, 9mm, 10mm, .357, 7.62 x 39, 308, and 12ga.

LOTTA ammo at Dunham's - West Mifflin (Pittsburgh) this morning. 😁 NOTHING you'd call, "affordable," however. 😬

$.85/rd was their CHEAPEST 2.25/5.56 (brass-cased - I never look at steel-cased crap). $349/500rds. of .45 hardball. Remington HST .45 - $43 for a box o' 20.

They can EAT IT, for THOSE prices!

The War Wagon said:

LOTTA ammo at Dunham's - West Mifflin (Pittsburgh) this morning. 😁 NOTHING you'd call, "affordable," however. 😬

$.85/rd was their CHEAPEST 2.25/5.56 (brass-cased - I never look at steel-cased crap). $349/500rds. of .45 hardball. Remington HST .45 - $43 for a box o' 20.

They can EAT IT, for THOSE prices!

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Steel cased ammo kills them as dead as brass cased. I wouldn’t own an AR that wouldn’t reliably feed/fire/eject steel cased ammo. Give Hornady Steel Match .223 a try, you won’t turn your nose up at it again.

The War Wagon said:

LOTTA ammo at Dunham's - West Mifflin (Pittsburgh) this morning. 😁 NOTHING you'd call, "affordable," however. 😬

$.85/rd was their CHEAPEST 2.25/5.56 (brass-cased - I never look at steel-cased crap). $349/500rds. of .45 hardball. Remington HST .45 - $43 for a box o' 20.

They can EAT IT, for THOSE prices!

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Lol, if your gun won’t shoot steel case you might want to reconsider what’s crap

chris69 said:

Steel cased ammo kills them as dead as brass cased. I wouldn’t own an AR that wouldn’t reliably feed/fire/eject steel cased ammo. Give Hornady Steel Match .223 a try, you won’t turn your nose up at it again.

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Kills extractors faster too - no thanks.

I've had some in the past (traded away since). If I get some in a deal, I'll take it. If I can't sell/trade it, I'll keep it as bottom-of-the-barrel / last-stand ammo. If it comes to using the rifle as a club, or using steel case, I'll use the steel case then.

Maybe.

Majicmike said:

Lol, if your gun won’t shoot steel case you might want to reconsider what’s crap

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That's like saying, if my '68 Shelby GT500 won't run 87 octane unleaded, IT'S "crap."

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That's like saying, if my '68 Shelby GT500 won't run 87 octane unleaded, IT'S "crap."

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Exactly, that’s why it’s not a everyday driver. Great collector car but nothing your going depend on.

Agreed it’s not as good and wears out barrel and extractor faster. But you Will save more then enough money to replace the parts and have plenty left over to buy more ammo. But it’s really personal preference. You do
you. Not a problem

There was 5.56 and 22lr on the shelf at Cabela’s tonight. Brass 5.56 was about $.50, the 22 was all thunderturds.

What this means is that the panic buyers are the aggressive flippers are getting out of the market. Normal is coming.

Remember back when ammo suppliers needed a week or more to ship? 90 minutes after ordering from Ammoboard (OL), I had a tracking number.

Jeppo said:

Remember back when ammo suppliers needed a week or more to ship? 90 minutes after ordering from Ammoboard (OL), I had a tracking number.

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The only difference is the price . Which is why the whole shortage has happened , profit !

One part that is missing in this comment is that when we were getting 9mm for $150 shipped to our house the industry was making no money. There was huge over production and as a result there was a race to the bottom in terms of retail pricing. We love the free market when it results in lower prices but hate it when it results in higher prices.

Demand was driven by fear in 2020 and early 2021. COVID slowed production. FOMO hysteria drove thd market. We are seeing the same self defeating principles right now with Russian Ammo. People are literally paying more for steel case Wolf than brass in the same caliber.

Prices for 9mm have stalled. It has not dropped much below $.40 a round for brass OTD. Withe the Russian thing I don’t think we will see $.30 9mm this year.

It will last until the camps are full.

wvsig said:

FOMO hysteria drove the market.

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Biteme hysteria is LEGITIMATE, and is driving the market EVERY bit as much, as the idiots who preceded him - 💩bama & KLIN - TON I - drove it in their day.

Starkherz199 said:

It will last until the camps are full.

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The SlowJoe / Soros endgame, for certain. 😡

There is a twist that some may overlook …

While 9mm and 5.56 are returning there are way more that are still hens teeth … like .380 and .38special. Companies are turning out truckloads of the common stuff because it is selling for the various reasons AND they can just run machines without reconfiguring for a different round. We may see the higher demand stuff fill back in (at a higher price) but those with lower demand will still be at “when you see it buy it” … I am still on back order for a case of 2 1/2” 20 gauge paper shells for my vintage LC Smith and RTS has no guess when.