FL Leg. Passes Bill to Prevent Left (Passing) Lane “cruisers”

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Florida left lane driving restrictions passes Legislature​


The Senate on Thursday voted 37-0 to pass the bill (HB 317), which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher. The House voted 113-3 last week to pass the bill.

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Florida left lane driving restrictions pass

Bill sent to Gov. Desantis for his signature
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Me. said:
I understand the emotion of what the law is about, but it doesn’t make much sense.

MOST people in the left lane(s) ARE going faster than the right lanes.


And in almost every example of two-or-more lanes in one direction, the additional lanes are about CAPACITY, not velocity.

In heavy traffic you’ll find yourself in outside lanes not because of passing, but because that’s where there is room.


This law is dumb. And serves only to increase fine revenue and fuel road rage ( because now you’re not only correct in you mind, but “the law is in your side).


It’s dumb.



And, like @noway2 mentioned, I’ll also sit out there in the left lane for miles and miles. Not impeding traffic.

I’ll do it when the right lane is in worse condition (often) and when the two lanes are on a non-limited-access road. It’s safer to be in the left, and more courteous, as people who want to turn right onto to the road (going my way) can do so without waiting for me to drive by.
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The left lane is a PASSING lane.
If you’re not passing someone, get out of the way.
I saw signage on the left rear door of a semi trailer, “If I pas you on the right, you’re an idiot”. Love it.
 
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And, like @noway2 mentioned, I’ll also sit out there in the left lane for miles and miles. Not impeding traffic.

I’ll do it when the right lane is in worse condition (often) and when the two lanes are on a non-limited-access road. It’s safer to be in the left, and more courteous, as people who want to turn right onto to the road (going my way) can do so without waiting for me to drive by.
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Sometimes I will also stay more to the left or even move over to the left to avoid merging traffic, especially since most of the idiots out there don't seem know how to do that anymore.
 
AZ had a no left lane camping law. I only saw one person get pulled. The elderly (locally called snow birds) who maintained a "winter house" in PHX because of it's mild winters were notorious for camping in the left lane. Little old lady cruising in the left lane during rush hour going 55mph with a mile of cars racked up behind her.

I also saw some spandex clad douche nozzle get pulled for thinking he could ride his bike down the shoulder of the 101. At least he was wearing a helmet.
 
Hehe, obviously none of us can say anything about NC because the law isn’t even up for consideration but y’all are el wrongo about that lack of enforcement in states where the law exists.

I first heard about this law even being a thing in many southern states was last year, first hand, from someone who got a citation for it (was complete news to them although an hour later the big led signs announcing the law started appearing)

3 weeks ago, while driving down to FL, I met a New Jersey-ite at a rest stop in SC who had just gotten his citation for “camping out” in the left lane and was, in true NJ-ite fashion, intent on telling everyone within shouting distance how he was doing the speed limit and how unfair he thought it was.

And, as far as not “seeing” any popo, when I see people pulled over on the interstates nowadays the highway patrol cars are not only unmarked 2 or 3 times to when they are marked now but also all manner of vehicles Other Than unmarked Chargers (incl SUV’s, pickups and here in bright color FL unmarked Mustangs …!). Point being, just because you don’t “see” them doesn’t mean they aren’t in the vicinity …

If the law going into effect reduces left lane slowpokes by even a fraction it’ll be a success to me (esp considering that every year that % will increase)

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"If someone in the left lane is going slower, and you pass them (on the right), you are creating an infraction and you can get ticketed," Perry said.

so....if the LEFT lane is slow, and i use the right lane to "get around", i get a ticket?
 
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Les White said:
AZ had a no left lane camping law. I only saw one person get pulled. The elderly (locally called snow birds) who maintained a "winter house" in PHX because of it's mild winters were notorious for camping in the left lane. Little old lady cruising in the left lane during rush hour going 55mph with a mile of cars racked up behind her.

I also saw some spandex clad douche nozzle get pulled for thinking he could ride his bike down the shoulder of the 101. At least he was wearing a helmet.
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Don’t get me started and the effing snowbirds! Here in Yuma the population DOUBLES from
October-May and they are incessantly in the way, whether it’s the left lane, or just standing in the middle of the aisle in the grocery store.

My wife and I have learned to not go out to eat until at least 7:30 when they’re all hopefully at home or in bed watching reruns of Murder She Wrote. Summer time is a love, hate relationship for me. The heat is unbearable at times, but at least all the damn snow birds have gone back to where they come from.
 
We NEED a "left lane is only for passing" law, and the penalties need to be steep. $500 seems appropriate. "Only to your job and back" driver's license restriction mandatory if two violations occur within a year.

I'm honestly being too lenient. Left lane campers cause innocent people to be killed in traffic accidents every day. And that's not even addressing the millions of collective man-hours that are wasted by them every year.
 
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Me. said:
MOST people in the left lane(s) ARE going faster than the right lanes.
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Maybe, but they aren’t going faster than me, so I go the right lane and pass them. It’s more risk for them and me, but the alternative is to wait patiently until they notice that they are impeding traffic and hope that they have the sense to get over, the odds of that are so low it’s not worth considering.

I’d like a premium lane on 485. For $500 per year you get to use it, and the speed limit is 90mph.
 
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MOST people in the left lane(s) ARE going faster than the right lanes.
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You're right, because MOST people have common sense and MOST people would not be affected by this law.

The problem is that it only takes one single moron staying in the left lane and refusing to pass to clog up the entire highway for a mile behind him. At that point, you then you have 50 people trying desperately to weave right, speed up as close as possible to the innocent person in front of them, and carefully time their attempt to dart back over to the left in front of the oblivious, moron left-lane camper. This results in tons of high-speed highway traffic accidents, and the worst part is that usually they consist of an innocent person being rear-ended in the right lane while the retard in the left lane never learns his lesson.
 
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On my way home from work today I got stuck behind a cary pd car going about ten miles an hour below the speed limit in the left lane.

Something about having to pass a cop on the right pisses me off even more. Just about blew the dudes doors off.
 
You guys with this passing lane nonsense. It’s what your grandpappys taught and has no root in law. As mentioned above, lanes are for capacity. The only “passing lanes” built in NC are those on the mountains or
Middle of BFE in eastern NC for truly passing slow traffic. The lane opens up for a mile or so then closes back down to a two lane road.

Tax money was spent to put that pavement on the ground to move cars. Not to serve as your personal “F the law and its speed limits” drag strip…or to honor your grandpappy’s legacy of school of how things ought to be.

On what planet in the Idiocracy system do we live in where a law is written that penalizes you if you don’t allow others to break the law?!?!
 
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9outof10mms said:
You guys with this passing lane nonsense. It’s what your grandpappys taught and has no root in law. As mentioned above, lanes are for capacity. The only “passing lanes” built in NC are those on the mountains or
Middle of BFE in eastern MC for truly passing slow traffic. The lane opens up for a mile or so then closes back down to a two lane road.

Tax money was spent to put that pavement on the ground to move cars. Not to serve as your personal “F the law and its speed limits” drag strip…or to honor your grandpappy’s legacy of school of how things ought to be.

On what planet in the Idiocracy system do we live in where a law is written that penalizes you if you don’t allow others to break the law?!?!
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You are part of the problem.

By the way, you're the one that sounds like "grandpappy". "Stay out of the left lane except to pass" is what is taught in driver's education, is the law in most states to some degree, and is the law in countries that have much better drivers and much lower traffic fatality rates (such as Germany). It reduces the need for each individual driver to weave back and forth into tight gaps to get around slower drivers and thereby maintain their speed, and that weaving is what causes accidents, not speed alone.
 
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C-doodle said:
On my way home from work today I got stuck behind a cary pd car going about ten miles an hour below the speed limit in the left lane.

Something about having to pass a cop on the right pisses me off even more. Just about blew the dudes doors off.
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Had something like that happen with an ‘unmarked’ cop on hwy 54 in Mebane off of 85. Two lanes. Jackass was in the left lane going well below the speed limit. Line of cars behind him. I was in the right lane, and passed going the speed limit. Jackass actually whooped his siren at me. Talk about a badge monkey that needs some crowd sourced justice.
 
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How about a law that all licensed drivers are required to carry a .357 loaded with rat shot, and if somebody is driving like a CS'er, they fire a round into the vehicle. At the time of yearly inspection, if'n they have more than 6-7 volleys in their various panels, they are sacrificed to an Aztec deity.

Preemptive apologies to BMW owners' families.
 
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9outof10mms said:
You guys with this passing lane nonsense. It’s what your grandpappys taught and has no root in law. As mentioned above, lanes are for capacity. The only “passing lanes” built in NC are those on the mountains or
Middle of BFE in eastern MC for truly passing slow traffic. The lane opens up for a mile or so then closes back down to a two lane road.

Tax money was spent to put that pavement on the ground to move cars. Not to serve as your personal “F the law and its speed limits” drag strip…or to honor your grandpappy’s legacy of school of how things ought to be.

On what planet in the Idiocracy system do we live in where a law is written that penalizes you if you don’t allow others to break the law?!?!
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It is in fact the law in SC. Legislated in ‘21. I pass the signs on I-95 stating such.

Move Right Law | SCDPS

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yard mongrel said:
How about a law that all licensed drivers are required to carry a .357 loaded with rat shot, an if somebody is driving like a CS'er, they fire a round into the vehicle. At the time of yearly inspection, if'n they have more than 6-7 volleys in their various panels, they are sacrificed to an Aztec deity.

Preemptive apologies to BMW owners' families.
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Gallagher the comedian said everyone should have a supply of magnetic flags. When you encounter an idiot driver, plant a flag on their car. Then the cops can watch for anyone with 10 or more flags and then just pull them over and cite them for being an asshole.
 
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I for one don’t want it. If I’m passing traffic and I don’t have a decent gap I’m not moving over. If I go in the left lane I’m usually over the speed limit and to hell with the crowd that wants to push you on down the road. I try my best to avoid getting caught in clusters of traffic and am happy to drive 70-75 in the right lane but when I need to pass a group I’m not going to accelerate to 90 to do it.
 
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Mack270 said:
If I’m passing traffic and I don’t have a decent gap I’m not moving over. If I go in the left lane I’m usually over the speed limit and to hell with the crowd that wants to push you on down the road. I try my best to avoid getting caught in clusters of traffic and am happy to drive 70-75 in the right lane but when I need to pass a group I’m not going to accelerate to 90 to do it.
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I'm with you Mack, but the key word is "passing". As long as you are actively passing, you aren't doing anything wrong being in the left. Just hop right if you reach a good gap where you would not have to brake to do so, and someone behind in the left wants to go faster than you. The law wouldn't affect you if you're actually doing what you describe.

The law would also make it so that when you "need to pass a group" you would actually be able to do so, instead of getting into the left lane and then discovering some idiot going two mph below the speed limit in front of you.
 
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Frack N Cylons said:
What does it matter if there are zero cops on the road?

I honestly don’t recall if I have ever seen anyone pulled over on 485.

MFers passing people doing 90mph on the right hand shoulder.
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Preach. I see 5 events each day on the way to work that deserve traffic cop intervention. But they defunded the police here so there are no cops.
 
So how exactly does this work? Speed limits are "the law". If I am going exactly the speed limit in the special lane by law I am now to move over so someone else can break a law?
Common curtesy aside, this is 100% road piracy revenue generation
 
Why is this hard to understand? Two things can be true at once. The speed limit is the law, and keep out of the left except to pass. Both are designed to prevent accidents. They aren't mutually exclusive. The logical reasoning has already been explained.
 
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Preach. I see 5 events each day on the way to work that deserve traffic cop intervention. But they defunded the police here so there are no cops.
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Cops are never around when you need them. They’re always off harassing someone else.
DrPhudd said:
So how exactly does this work? Speed limits are "the law".
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Speed limits haven’t changed in the ~40 years I’ve been driving. Cars and technology have. The equivalent of a car at 35 mph several decades ago is likely equivalent of a modern car at 55mph.

It’s BS drummed up by politicians to generate back door revenue under the guise of safety.
 
You guys are overlooking the significant investment in the addition lane(s) for traffic capacity. Not high speed driving.

For a standard residential road, you can figure about $500k per lane mile of road construction. An interstate can be 2x-4x that for asphalt, way more for concrete.

So from exit 77 to exit 24 on I-77 in SC (53 miles) where the highway is only two lanes in each direction, you’re looking at $50M-$75M (loosely, not accounting for the land cost or any other non material cost) per side of the interstate for lanes that are only to be touched if you’re passing.

For a forum of people that are typically conservative in nature, at least fiscally, I think some folks are having a hard time grasping the gross misuse of tax dollars to fund a “because that’s how I think it should be done” lane.
 
DuncanLempRIP said:
You are part of the problem.

By the way, you're the one that sounds like "grandpappy". "Stay out of the left lane except to pass" is what is taught in driver's education, is the law in most states to some degree, and is the law in countries that have much better drivers and much lower traffic fatality rates (such as Germany). It reduces the need for each individual driver to weave back and forth into tight gaps to get around slower drivers and thereby maintain their speed, and that weaving is what causes accidents, not speed alone.
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Nice to meet you. Glad to see you feel so passionate about this as to take things so hyper sensitively.
 
9outof10mms said:
You guys are overlooking the significant investment in the addition lane(s) for traffic capacity. Not high speed driving.

For a standard residential road, you can figure about $500k per lane mile of road construction. An interstate can be 2x-4x that for asphalt, way more for concrete.

So from exit 77 to exit 24 on I-77 in SC (53 miles) where the highway is only two lanes in each direction, you’re looking at $50M-$75M (loosely, not accounting for the land cost or any other non material cost) per side of the interstate for lanes that are only to be touched if you’re passing.

For a forum of people that are typically conservative in nature, at least fiscally, I think some folks are having a hard time grasping the gross misuse of tax dollars to fund a “because that’s how I think it should be done” lane.
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You know what asphalt isn't being used? The two miles of clear asphalt (in both lanes) in front of the blockage caused by a moron in the left lane going the same speed as the guy next to him. Or the many, many miles of clear asphalt in front of a 10-car pileup from an accident that would have been prevented if people understood the basic concept that traffic flows better if the left is reserved for passing.

Ambulances, fire engines, and the people who operate them are not free of cost, either.
 
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DuncanLempRIP said:
You know what asphalt isn't being used? The two miles of clear asphalt (in both lanes) in front of the blockage caused by a moron in the left lane going the same speed as the guy next to him. Or the many, many miles of clear asphalt in front of a 10-car pileup from an accident that would have been prevented if people understood the basic concept that traffic flows better if the left is reserved for passing.
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Relax, Francis.
 
NKD said:
Just boggles my mind there is an argument about this simple concept.
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I’m in this camp. I never would have imagined.

Just when I thought I knew some of you guys.

It should also be mentioned that in some other states, it’s illegal to pass on the right.

Why you ask?

Because there ought not be any slow pokes in the left.
 
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