10/22 For "Competition"?

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I keep coming back to thinking about doing some type of 22 league or low level competition.

The only 22 I have is a mid 80s vintage 10/22 carbine. Due to budget constraints, this is what I have to work with.

So, I'm thinking about a decent scope, upgrade the factory trigger and probably a better barrel.

Stupid idea? Better ideas? Just get a new rifle? I don't even know what type of competition I'd want to do. I've never done any
 
2-gun rimfire / rimfire challenge, and, you wouldn't have to do much to your rifle, so long as you also had a pistol.

Or, try steel challenge (rim fire rifle, optics: RFRO), and then you don't need a pistol.

In either case:
Fix up the rifle with a good red dot, a few action tweaks, and five 10-round magazines.

You'll have so much fun you won't be able to wipe the grin off your face for two days.
 
1075tech said:
I keep coming back to thinking about doing some type of 22 league or low level competition.

The only 22 I have is a mid 80s vintage 10/22 carbine. Due to budget constraints, this is what I have to work with.

So, I'm thinking about a decent scope, upgrade the factory trigger and probably a better barrel.

Stupid idea? Better ideas? Just get a new rifle? I don't even know what type of competition I'd want to do. I've never done any
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Meh. Who says you can't use the rifle you know/have to compete?

If you know it's "minute of squirrel" I vote for going to a competition or three to see how you do. Then decide if you need to spend on "upgrades" or ammo for trigger time to improve your scores.
 
@mostly22lately is right if you want to shoot fast stages. And you don’t need pin point accuracy. I think the smallest plate is like 6 inches. The rimfire challenge is awesome and extremely fun! No huge egos at these matches. Family and first time competition friendly. We have several members on the forum who shoot them often. Once the doc tells me I can shoot again, I’ll be back. If you want more information, shoot me a PM.
 
1075tech said:
I keep coming back to thinking about doing some type of 22 league or low level competition.

The only 22 I have is a mid 80s vintage 10/22 carbine. Due to budget constraints, this is what I have to work with.

So, I'm thinking about a decent scope, upgrade the factory trigger and probably a better barrel.

Stupid idea? Better ideas? Just get a new rifle? I don't even know what type of competition I'd want to do. I've never done any
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Depends on if you want to do some kind of accuracy match or speed match.

Options for speed have been covered above. I highly recommend it.

There is a precision league at DPRC as well. Information is on the Durham Rifle and Pistol Club website. It’s pretty laid back. You can run what you bring so to speak. Though I think the guys there run a lot of CZ bolt guns.

It really doesn’t matter so much about your equipment. What matters is getting out there and participating.

Think about it this way. If you show up, you’ve already beaten all the folks who didn’t bother to be there.
 
#1 - Find the ammo for your gun.

Experiment with as many brands as you can to find what your gun likes.
 
MadMardigan said:
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They get to be expensive when you start fiddling with them.
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I'm intrigued,


what's the 9V battery doing?
 
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The 10/22 up above, I’m going to probably go back to the Vortex Viper vs the SWFA SS 3-15.

But it’s a Kidd Barrel, Kidd Trigger, EGW 20MOA scope rail, and Victor Company Titan stock.

Now if you want to go cheaper, Green Mountain Barrel, EGW Scope Rail, Arken or Athlon Argos scope, and Boyd’s stock.

Either of those scopes would get you to the next upgrades, then I would say swap the stock to the Victor Company, though it’s only 189 entry price.

800ish in upgrades would flip your base 10/22 into something completely different. 22s are a rabbit hole to go down, I’ve got 3 with over 1k in them, but they are my favorites for the back yard.
 
MadMardigan said:
The 10/22 up above, I’m going to probably go back to the Vortex Viper vs the SWFA SS 3-15.

But it’s a Kidd Barrel, Kidd Trigger, EGW 20MOA scope rail, and Victor Company Titan stock.

Now if you want to go cheaper, Green Mountain Barrel, EGW Scope Rail, Arken or Athlon Argos scope, and Boyd’s stock.

Either of those scopes would get you to the next upgrades, then I would say swap the stock to the Victor Company, though it’s only 189 entry price.

800ish in upgrades would flip your base 10/22 into something completely different. 22s are a rabbit hole to go down, I’ve got 3 with over 1k in them, but they are my favorites for the back yard.
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Long term - Budget would allow for a Viper or Viper HS. I usually pick these up from AAoptics.com when they get a delivery of factory refurbs since they're ~50% MSRP. The HS has adjustable parallax from 50 yards. I'd like to find a used Diamondback HP 4-16 as the adjustable parallax goes from 30 yards

Barrel, I was thinking ~18" maybe 20" GM or Faxon or similarly priced heavy tapered.

Trigger - No experience here but have heard good things re: Ruger BX, <Volquartsen, <Kidd

Scope would be a requirement no matter what rifle. I can likely upgrade the barrel and trigger for less than a new bolt action.
 
1075tech said:
Trigger - No experience here but have heard good things re: Ruger BX, <Volquartsen, <Kidd
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Correct. I have, and installed Volquartzen firing groups in my, and my sons 10/22’s.
I currently have a Kidd hammer/sear kit, it’s better than V’s. I picked up a Kidd single stage firing group I have yet to try.
I need to find scope rings that’ll accommodate a Razor 1-6. I screwed up, measured and ordered low rings, the eye piece won’t clear.
Vq stock, Vq Bentz chamber barrel, Kidd firing group, Ti firing pin
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1075tech said:
Long term - Budget would allow for a Viper or Viper HS. I usually pick these up from AAoptics.com when they get a delivery of factory refurbs since they're ~50% MSRP. The HS has adjustable parallax from 50 yards. I'd like to find a used Diamondback HP 4-16 as the adjustable parallax goes from 30 yards

Barrel, I was thinking ~18" maybe 20" GM or Faxon or similarly priced heavy tapered.

Trigger - No experience here but have heard good things re: Ruger BX, <Volquartsen, <Kidd

Scope would be a requirement no matter what rifle. I can likely upgrade the barrel and trigger for less than a new bolt action.
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Mine is a 18” Kidd, my 2 bolt actions are 16.5, I like the 18” for 22 the best, but I’m not swapping barrels on the CZ or Tikka anytime soon.

Kidd’s trigger is very very good, never shot the BX or VQ, BX is supposed to be a good upgrade starting point for 10/22s, but I went with a lot of Kidd parts as you can see.

The VC Titan stock is a huge upgrade vs Boyd’s, since it’s got pillars, and the other good selling points to it.

My end goal is NRL22 matches, Tikka and the 10/22 are open class built, the CZ457 is production class. But I can’t find CZ457 22lr magazines at all.

I do run them all with my Rugged Oculus.
 
1075tech said:
Long term - Budget would allow for a Viper or Viper HS. I usually pick these up from AAoptics.com when they get a delivery of factory refurbs since they're ~50% MSRP. The HS has adjustable parallax from 50 yards. I'd like to find a used Diamondback HP 4-16 as the adjustable parallax goes from 30 yards

Barrel, I was thinking ~18" maybe 20" GM or Faxon or similarly priced heavy tapered.

Trigger - No experience here but have heard good things re: Ruger BX, <Volquartsen, <Kidd

Scope would be a requirement no matter what rifle. I can likely upgrade the barrel and trigger for less than a new bolt action.
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Also check out Brimstone for a trigger job. $80-$100 Lots of options & I really enjoy mine. I’ll second the Kidd trigger job for about the same price. It’s either do it yourself (Kidd) or have the professional do it (Brimstone). I haven’t ventured in to replacement packs, yet…..they are pricey.

Ruger 10/22 - Brimstone Gunsmithing

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1075tech said:
The only 22 I have is a mid 80s vintage 10/22 carbine.
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How does it shoot now? My 10/22 of that vintage does really well. Put a good scope on it and try it the way it is before you go spending a lot of money on things that may not help you out very much. I shot a rimfire match several years ago with my old 10/22 with an old Weaver 3X widefield scope and did quite well against the fellows with tricked out rifles. Do not fix what is not broken.
 
Charlie said:
How does it shoot now? My 10/22 of that vintage does really well. Put a good scope on it and try it the way it is before you go spending a lot of money on things that may not help you out very much. I shot a rimfire match several years ago with my old 10/22 with an old Weaver 3X widefield scope and did quite well against the fellows with tricked out rifles. Do not fix what is not broken.
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No no, it’s a rabbit hole, you have to sink 2k into a 300 dollar gun, and then wonder why you just didn’t buy the 2k rifle straight from Kidd. Lol
 
Charlie said:
How does it shoot now? My 10/22 of that vintage does really well. Put a good scope on it and try it the way it is before you go spending a lot of money on things that may not help you out very much. I shot a rimfire match several years ago with my old 10/22 with an old Weaver 3X widefield scope and did quite well against the fellows with tricked out rifles. Do not fix what is not broken.
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On my list of things to do is dig it out and clean it up. I'll pull a scope off something else to put on it for now and see what it can do.
 
I am teaching a course on accurizing the 10/22 at Montgomery Community College 4/28-4/30. The focus is improving the accuracy by machining the factory parts and not just swapping out for new parts. A few of things that we will do is, adjust the bolt headspace, set the factory chamber back, machine a cleaning hole and trigger work. Machining experience is required. The course description is under NRA classes on the MCC webpage.
 
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Well, I finally got around to putting a scope on my old 10/22. I bought it new in ~1983. It's all original. Carbine with the checkered stock. Sporter? Anyway, I had a Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10 that wasn't on anything else.

I can't remember the last time I shot this thing. Set up my target at 25 yards. Using just the crook of my elbow for support, I got it close and then shot 4, 5-shot groups.

CCI Mini Mag 40gr copper coated
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I then tried some CCI Standard Velocity 40gr lead

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I have been interested in trying some rimfire matches for a long time. Just haven't gotten around to it.

I built up a pretty decent 10/22 for that specific purpose. Shot it a few times, turned around and bought an old used m&p 15-22.

The relatively stock 15-22 feels better suited to that task than the 10/22 even after getting it all set up.

Do I regret wasting money on the Ruger? Heck no. Was it the right choice? Not for me. If I ever get around to actually going to a match I'll bring both and call the 10/22 a spare.
 
For my abilities, the minimags produced some respectable groups. I'd say they showed promise. The standard velocity opened up quite a bit.

I'll have to get to where I can use a proper rest and see what it's actually capable of. And then try a few other brands of ammo that I have here.
 
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