Yeah, I got the lubed up part, just don't know what hooks and lugs and whatever else means. Lol.What he's saying is they don't like to run "dry". Meaning in this case not adequately lubricated.
Yeah, I got the lubed up part, just don't know what hooks and lugs and whatever else means. Lol.What he's saying is they don't like to run "dry". Meaning in this case not adequately lubricated.
I'd use rubbing alcohol...
...why do ya need it dry?
This only works with Glocks.I am considering a science experiment
This only works with Glocks.
I'm sorry yours had issues, and I really hope it's now and forever issue-free! Lol.How coincidental that I just received a 1911 in 9mm back from the manufacturer today due to misbehavior. In this case it is a misbehavior of a different variety. (lousy ejection)
The videos I saw used mineral spirits to clean them....eeewwwww.....Anybody know if simple green is enough to get a 1911 completely "dry" or would i have to use brake cleaner?
Except today, I shot 100 rounds and the gun did as perfectly as it did the first 2 weeks! I just don't get it!
I've asked my long-suffering trainer to keep the gun and shoot it when he can, to see when it starts having issues again, and I'll borrow it when I want to shoot and then give it back to him.With such a narrow window of opportunity, your results could be as simple as a small variation in the ammunition...dimensionally as well as ballistically. I've seen thast happen pretty often with the chopped down variants. Ammunition varies from one manufacturer to another, and sometimes within different lots from the same manufacturer.
Although I doubt that your grip is to blame since the gun is correctly sprung, it wouldn't be a bad idea to let someone else whoot it to see if they have the same problems.
I didn't plan on using the mineral spirits, just something I saw. Lol. I watch lots of how-to youtube things.Big NO to the mineral spirits, and YES to the lubrication! If you let someone other than the manufacturer work on the pistol it will VOID the warranty.
Yeah, I had forgotten all about the feed ramp...lol.Millie suddenly remembers about the feed ramp getting polished. Then rehearses the line, "It was that way when I got it."
Don't worry Millie, it a 1911. We'll get it to run smoothly. Incidentally, on the grip... I know you said you were gripping firmly, but how extended are your arms when shooting it? If your elbows are fairly bent, you'll have a weaker wrist lock. With straighter arms, your wrist strength will be increased. I'm not saying lock your elbows out straight, but straighter would be better. Just a thought.
BTW, with the quantity you're shooting, are you by chance picking up and saving your brass? I know someone that would be interested in getting that from you if you are, or should you decide to do so.
Ok, sounds good. Just thinking of the little things that might make a difference. You are still in the break in period.Yeah, I had forgotten all about the feed ramp...lol.
And I'm going to start picking up the brass, as it does seem that somebody might want some brass! Lol. I'll start that tomorrow! Putting some baggies in the range bag right now, in fact!
Elbows: We're taught in choir not to lock our knees when standing on the risers, as bad things can happen if we do!
And so no, I don't lock my elbows, but get them as straight as I can without locking.
When I begin to notice my arms are starting to bend more, that's when I know it's almost time to stop for the day. Lol. If I have to constantly straighten them, I'm done.
Any little nugget you have, I'll take! Lol.Ok, sounds good. Just thinking of the little things that might make a difference. You are still in the break in period.
Oh, yeah. You've been cranking through some rounds. Yes, normally, a few hundred should do it. We'll figure it out. 1911's have infinite ways to be modified and tweaked.Any little nugget you have, I'll take! Lol.
And how long is the break-in period? Surely over 1,000 rounds it should be broken in by now?
But I don't want modifications and tweakage....I just want my gun to work as it's supposed to! LOL. Tweakage sounds baaaaddd.....Oh, yeah. You've been cranking through some rounds. Yes, normally, a few hundred should do it. We'll figure it out. 1911's have infinite ways to be modified and tweaked.
Here's the reality. The gun you have is not a good choice for carry gun as demonstrated by its behavior. I wouldn't carry a 1911 in 9mm unless it was made and tuned by one of the semi-custom builders. Some of them have figured it out. I'm talking Wilson, Nighthawk, Guncrafters, etcBut I don't want modifications and tweakage....I just want my gun to work as it's supposed to! LOL. Tweakage sounds baaaaddd.....
As for "We'll figure it out," that's what my coach said! I'm confident that between all the gun brains here and at the range, I'll get my gun properly sorted.
I don't own anything that's not been modified or tweaked in some way. Makes it mine. Tweaking is just a minor adjustment, a different spring, a little bend, a little polishing, etc. Factory is boring.But I don't want modifications and tweakage....I just want my gun to work as it's supposed to! LOL. Tweakage sounds baaaaddd.....
As for "We'll figure it out," that's what my coach said! I'm confident that between all the gun brains here and at the range, I'll get my gun properly sorted.
Well, right now I'm back with the p238. As soon as I have the money, I'll get my .45 1911 out of layaway "jail," and carry it after shooting it for a while.Here's the reality. The gun you have is not a good choice for carry gun as demonstrated by its behavior. I wouldn't carry a 1911 in 9mm unless it was made and tuned by one of the semi-custom builders. Some of them have figured it out. I'm talking Wilson, Nighthawk, Guncrafters, etc
I've had too much trouble with 1911's in 9mm from Dan Wesson on down, and anyone who says otherwise hasn't shot enough of them. They are too hit or miss in that caliber.
Carry a 1911 in 45, or carry another pistol.
Not sure I can afford tweakage, and the .45 will be mine soon...I hope it goes ok and I can carry that!I don't own anything that's not been modified or tweaked in some way. Makes it mine. Tweaking is just a minor adjustment, a different spring, a little bend, a little polishing, etc. Factory is boring.
Here's the reality. The gun you have is not a good choice for carry gun as demonstrated by its behavior. I wouldn't carry a 1911 in 9mm unless it was made and tuned by one of the semi-custom builders. Some of them have figured it out. I'm talking Wilson, Nighthawk, Guncrafters, etc
I've had too much trouble with 1911's in 9mm from Dan Wesson on down, and anyone who says otherwise hasn't shot enough of them. They are too hit or miss in that caliber.
Carry a 1911 in 45, or carry another pistol.
I would be interested to know which ones. Seriously. Not a challenge but a request....I have 6 1911 9mms and have not had any trouble with any of them
And 30 years ago they said the same thing about 45 acp 1911s with hollow point ammo
" I have 6 1911 9mms and have not had any trouble with any of them
I have to add that today I shot 4 boxes of 115 gr. ammo and it was fine, and 2 boxes of same brand 124 gr, and had a stovepipe near the end of box 2. Other than that tiny hiccup it was fine.
I would be interested to know which ones. Seriously. Not a challenge but a request.
And describe under what conditions you shoot them, and if you trust them to carry for defense
I've bent the ejectors on two new Colts, had a new Dan Wesson Valor that wouldn't run right after break-in, and had issues with a Fusion that I've been able to correct.
I've run them all in matches and their performance was not encouraging, except for the Fusion, which I think I've been lucky with.
I was very close to buying an RIA Ultra in 9mm. Read lots of great stuff about them, and also seriously considered buying one of Dawson's remaining STI single stacks if STI's didn't have rear target sights, which are just not my personal preference. I think these are all great choices for any 1911, although I have no personal experience with them.RIA ultra fullsize , RIA tactical FS, STI Spartan V, STI Trojan, Springfield RO FS 9mm, RIA 22tcm/9mm and my carry gun a RIA Tactical CS The RIA ultra fullsize , STI Trojan and my carry gun each get 200+ rounds a month and have for the last 4-5 years most of that ammo is my 115 grain cast round nose reloads (bullets from Summers enterprise) I have now gone to a Hi tek coating on the same bullets they all work with various mags including the mags from my 38super (ask me how I know this)
I was very close to buying an RIA Ultra in 9mm. Read lots of great stuff about them, and also seriously considered buying one of Dawson's remaining STI single stacks if STI's didn't have rear target sights, which are just not my personal preference. I think these are all great choices for any 1911, although I have no personal experience with them.
That said, I still would not recommend the 1911 for defense to a newer shooter, and particularly in 9mm.
@Millie
It's worth mentioning that my comment last night about not carrying your 1911 in 9mm for defense is not an indictment of your particular pistol. I am a big advocate of RIA's based on everything I have ever read about them, which is a lot, and especially at their price point.
Currently, I shoot my one remaining 9mm 1911 more than anything else I own. I run it in nearly every match because the weight minimizes recoil so well for follow up shots, and it is just a pleasure to shoot the way I have it set up. But I'm not sure if I would buy another one like it. Some of what this gun is now I did myself, and I have heard of others having trouble with theirs.
From my own limited experience, and the words above by someone way more experienced than me, it's my *opinion* that unlike JMB's design for the 1911 chambered in 45, the 1911 in 9mm always seems to be a work in progress. Some come from the factory that will run, some will even run great, some folks have had a lot luck with theirs as posted just above, and some just won't run. Many folks will take them to the range occasionally and never have a minute's trouble, but once they start to put a lot of ammo through them, or in my case run them in competitions where Murphy's law reigns supreme regarding your gun, your ammo, your gear, and even you, then all sorts of things start to creep out of the woodwork.
To me this platform in this caliber is a little like race car. If everything isn't just right it won't run right. When it IS right it is glorious. When I spend any time on 1911 specific forums I read about folks who have a passel of 1911's in 9mm that all seem to run, but I find they are often semi-customs or full custom builds where significant sums of money have been spent upfront to build a finally tuned handgun that will run correctly. ($3,000 up to however much you want to spend). Or they are owners who shoot the gun at the range occasionally, and haven't ever really "put them through their paces". I could be wrong about that and it is just an assumption, but my experience has just been way different with $800-$1700 1911's in 9mm.
For defense there are just so many options to carry 10+1 in 9mm that are rock solid reliable. As for your RIA, I actually enjoy the journey of getting a gun like that to run (until I don't). But once a gun stumbles a few times, if it is an easily identifiable and well known fix, then I say fix it and carry it with confidence, but if it is one of the mysterious gremlins that befall this platform in this caliber, I just wouldn't personally trust it as a defense weapon.
I understood what you were saying. I've gone back to carrying the Sig, as I'm not confident in the 9mm...at the moment.@Millie
It's worth mentioning that my comment last night about not carrying your 1911 in 9mm for defense is not an indictment of your particular pistol. I am a big advocate of RIA's based on everything I have ever read about them, which is a lot, and especially at their price point.
Currently, I shoot my one remaining 9mm 1911 more than anything else I own. I run it in nearly every match because the weight minimizes recoil so well for follow up shots, and it is just a pleasure to shoot the way I have it set up. But I'm not sure if I would buy another one like it. Some of what this gun is now I did myself, and I have heard of others having trouble with theirs.
From my own limited experience, and the words above by someone way more experienced than me, it's my *opinion* that unlike JMB's design for the 1911 chambered in 45, the 1911 in 9mm always seems to be a work in progress. Some come from the factory that will run, some will even run great, some folks have had a lot luck with theirs as posted just above, and some just won't run. Many folks will take them to the range occasionally and never have a minute's trouble, but once they start to put a lot of ammo through them, or in my case run them in competitions where Murphy's law reigns supreme regarding your gun, your ammo, your gear, and even you, then all sorts of things start to creep out of the woodwork.
To me this platform in this caliber is a little like race car. If everything isn't just right it won't run right. When it IS right it is glorious. When I spend any time on 1911 specific forums I read about folks who have a passel of 1911's in 9mm that all seem to run, but I find they are often semi-customs or full custom builds where significant sums of money have been spent upfront to build a finally tuned handgun that will run correctly. ($3,000 up to however much you want to spend). Or they are owners who shoot the gun at the range occasionally, and haven't ever really "put them through their paces". I could be wrong about that and it is just an assumption, but my experience has just been way different with $800-$1700 1911's in 9mm.
For defense there are just so many options to carry 10+1 in 9mm that are rock solid reliable. As for your RIA, I actually enjoy the journey of getting a gun like that to run (until I don't). But once a gun stumbles a few times, if it is an easily identifiable and well known fix, then I say fix it and carry it with confidence, but if it is one of the mysterious gremlins that befall this platform in this caliber, I just wouldn't personally trust it as a defense weapon.
I did try some 124 (?) grain ammo the other day. I'll see what else they have at the range to try. It does seem to love the 115 gr. Blazer Brass though.Millie, if you go back to @John Travis first post he is expressing a fundamental truth for all things mechanical, and not just firearms. To function reliably requires that a number of things work correctly. In the original 1911’s this sweet spot was quite large, not as large as say it is in a full size glock, but large enough for the mil. With the 9mm 1911 the sweet spot is smaller. To be fair, current 1911’s are build more tightly than older ones, so even in .45acp the sweet spot is smaller than it once was. If your gun isn’t functioning it could be one thing out of whack or several things just slightly out of wack, the smaller the sweet spot the harder it is to diagnose.
Trying new magazine is a good first thing, even mag springs can make a world of difference.
Cleaning and lbricating is critical, learn to do it well.
147g ammo is another thing to try, recoil will feel different, but not worse. I view this as making the sweet spot larger.
Recoil spring, the long spring in the slide, is another easy variable to play with.
By now I think you know that polishing was not a good choice, your “gunsmith” doesn’t know the 1911 platform, that’s okay, nobody knows everything.
FWIW, I have 1911’s in .45acp, 38super and 9mm, they are all reliable. My nightstand gun is a sig only because it is suppressed.
Well, the 9mm is not being carried, sadly. I'm back to the p238, which I also love. Maybe the .45 1911 will be my good luck gun!I was very close to buying an RIA Ultra in 9mm. Read lots of great stuff about them, and also seriously considered buying one of Dawson's remaining STI single stacks if STI's didn't have rear target sights, which are just not my personal preference. I think these are all great choices for any 1911, although I have no personal experience with them.
That said, I still would not recommend the 1911 for defense to a newer shooter, and particularly in 9mm.