...but for my 77 year old Mother who can no longer easily rack the slide on her G26...
I would be interested in it for my wife. She has no hand strength so it would depend how much strength it takes to rack the slide. We have a M & P 22C in the house for her now and she can shoot it quite well. But as much as I've tried to move her up in caliber I have yet to find a gun she can rack other the the 22C. I do have to agree though I'm not thrilled about the grip safety.
My wife loves her M&P 22 Compact, at least partly for the light weight. Her right hand got caught in the dishwasher back in college, so hand strength is a big deal for her. Then she shut my truck door on the same hand a few years ago... I'm sure 10 rounds of Mini-Mags will get someone's attention.Same situation, my wife loves the MP22. Have her try Walther PK380 or CCP. It was the only way I was able to move her up in caliber.
Back on topic I can see the appeal of this, but the grip safety kills the aesthetics.
Ruger did that with the LC9 and LC380. This gun is like reaching the rock bottom of retarded and grabbing a shovel.From an engineering standpoint, is there anything stopping them from chambering a 9mm Shield in .380? Or even a double stack M&P? I would think guns like that would be more appealing.
I would be interested in it for my wife. She has no hand strength so it would depend how much strength it takes to rack the slide. We have a M & P 22C in the house for her now and she can shoot it quite well. But as much as I've tried to move her up in caliber I have yet to find a gun she can rack other the the 22C. I do have to agree though I'm not thrilled about the grip safety.
Same situation, my wife loves the MP22. Have her try Walther PK380 or CCP. It was the only way I was able to move her up in caliber.
Back on topic I can see the appeal of this, but the grip safety kills the aesthetics.
My wife has the CCP. Loves it. Felt recoil is similar to a full size. Fixed barrel gives it full size accuracy.Im gonna jump on the PK380 band wagon, too....but only because I have no experience with tbe ccp. Have a PK380 for my daughter and its a great little gun. I actually like it, too lol
I believe @fishgutzy had a go round like this a while back, and iirc, went with a ccp. Maybe he can chime in...
At twice the weight, lol.If I want to carry a .380 that big I'll carry my CZ 83 and have twice the capacity. At least you don't have to pull the trigger to take it apart. Or if I wanted a single stack my RIA Baby Rock.
At twice the weight, lol.
Pro tip: You're supposed to unload your gun before taking it apart.
Some people might say a gun that can only be carried ready to fire with the hammer fully back is unsafe and stupid. The solution is pay attention to what you're f'ng doing and training.Yeah, but having to pull the trigger to take a gun apart may be the stupidest idea in the gun industry in recent memory. It's just a dumb idea.
There is sooo much win going on in this phrase lol
That was interesting. Good intentions I think. I don't have a good handle on the dimensions, but I do find myself wishing they had stretched it to 9mm instead of 380, if for no other reason than ammo availability and cost (especially if the dreaded ammo drought rears its ugly head again).While this one doesn't fit a need for me, and maybe not even my wife, I do appreciate the thoughtfulness S&W put into the design for a specific user group, rather than just making the polymer pink or purple. I know several women who love to shoot, but end up with guns they don't particularly enjoy once they spend some time on the range actually using them. This link provides some good info on the gun, and helped it make more sense to me as to what S&W intends with it: http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/smith-wesson-introduces-the-mp-380-shield-ez-pistol/
Would like to see the magazine, with the "ez load button". Is it like a .22 mag with the follower that sticks out the side of the mag body so you can load it easier? I can see that appealing to several smaller folk I've taught to shoot who liked that on the .22 and wanted to know why it wasn't on the bigger guns. We know why, but now they have a choice if they want that feature on a non-22.
Some people might say a gun that can only be carried ready to fire with the hammer fully back is unsafe and stupid. The solution is pay attention to what you're f'ng doing and training.
BTW, a 1911 is carried in condition 1, no? What do you have to do before making it safe (including taking it apart)?
You don't have to pull the trigger to take it apart. Matter of fact, the hammer needs to be back to manipulate the slide to the rear to disengage the slide stop.
Not saying folks shouldn't verify clear. Saying you should engineer stupid out of the equation as often as possible. Having to pull the trigger to disassemble is needless and IMO thoughtless on the gun manufactures.
I carry a CZ75b and a Sig P238, both in condition 1. Would I recommend either for carry to someone just starting to learn about guns and carry? Not unless they are willing to learn how to deal with them comfortably. Unfortunately, most of the guns I and others would recommend require the trigger to be pulled to disassemble. IMO it's asking for trouble and bordering on negligent on the makers part. Most folks that shoot themselves while cleaning handguns or ND do so with guns that need the trigger pulled to disassemble. And as makers get away from it it's obvious that it was not necessary in the first place. It should have been engineered out of the equation to begin with.
Ruger did that with the LC9 and LC380, both of which were hammer-fired. It is noteworthy that Ruger did not produce a striker-fired .380 equivalent when the striker-fired LC9s was made.Ruger did that with the LC9 and LC380. This gun is like reaching the rock bottom of retarded and grabbing a shovel.
Realistically? Probably not. But a short, light trigger makes any gun easier to shoot well (or even decently), so that will be a huge attraction for newer shooters.Assuming this product is aimed at newer shooters, is the lightest trigger pull in S&W history a good idea?
Assuming this product is aimed at newer shooters, is the lightest trigger pull in S&W history a good idea?