A 12 second argument for why the world should support Ukraine
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I agree with many of the points the people on the Russian side make. Our current administration is corrupt to the core and I'm almost certain is getting kickbacks from the money we give Ukraine. We have/had bio warefare labs in Ukraine. There are nazi sympathizers in Ukraine. Russia is defending traditional values in the face of the woke agenda of the Globalist cabal, of which our government is a part.
However, none of that gives Russia the right to roll over any sovereign country that happens to border them, and this isn't the first time. I believe they will continue to do so until they get kicked in the balls. Why would they not?
Regarding the bio weapons labs, we have to do or fund that research in order to defend against it. I'd rather it be done out of our country if it's secure. Regarding the "nazis" I'm sure there are some, but I don't think the country is nazified.
If the election had not been stolen I'm certain Trump could have prevented this. When I look at the Russian people I see people who are not that different from us, and if they truly are no longer communist why could we not have convinced Russia to align with us against communist China? I think Trump might have gone down that road.
Regardless, Russia is still essentially a dictatorship, and I'll take our corrupt government over theirs. I think they should be pushed out of Ukraine to teach them that invading their neighbors will no longer work for them.
However, none of that gives Russia the right to roll over any sovereign country that happens to border them, and this isn't the first time. I believe they will continue to do so until they get kicked in the balls. Why would they not?
Regarding the bio weapons labs, we have to do or fund that research in order to defend against it. I'd rather it be done out of our country if it's secure. Regarding the "nazis" I'm sure there are some, but I don't think the country is nazified.
If the election had not been stolen I'm certain Trump could have prevented this. When I look at the Russian people I see people who are not that different from us, and if they truly are no longer communist why could we not have convinced Russia to align with us against communist China? I think Trump might have gone down that road.
Regardless, Russia is still essentially a dictatorship, and I'll take our corrupt government over theirs. I think they should be pushed out of Ukraine to teach them that invading their neighbors will no longer work for them.
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Surely you’re not suggesting someone here would offer to harm your dog. Pretty shitty if you are.
If you’re suggesting that, it shows you haven’t paid much attention
That is all reasonable. If you’d like to learn more I’d be happy to deliver the book on one of our Bio labs to you. It’s called Lab 257. It’ll make you really think about the gain of function and research crap. We haven‘t been careful or ’good’ in that area for decades. Oh, and at the beginning we use literal WW2 Nazi’s in those programs. 😱
As far as Russia rolling over other countries I was under the understanding they were a crappy little economy that didn’t have that ability. And their military was inept and untrained. With crappy equipment. In that case they shouldn‘t make it very far so Europe will be fine handling their own business.
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What I read in the OP was that a Russian soldier shot a Ukranian captive soldier in the head.
Is this the length and breadth of this debate?
Is this the length and breadth of this debate?
Well he did site a source called Ukrainian Pravda or something like that so he kinda had it coming.
At least the Russian’s didn‘t eat the Ukrainian so they are at least a tad bit better than the Azov Battalion gang at this point. Must be they only have 2 burner grills in Russia. Who knew?
Russia could have been aligned with us after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but a lot of people had vested interests in Russia being our enemy.
Years ago, when I chose a language to take in the military, I picked Russian because the Soviet Union was an advanced military super-power. My brother laughed at me and told me to take Chinese because China was the military super-power of the future and the ranks of Russian-speakers and Soviet experts were already packed. After the Soviet Union collapsed, my brother taunted me for not taking Chinese. While a couple of decades in the NSA may have given him some insight I lacked, even he missed the fact that entrenched Russian-speakers and Soviet experts in the military and government would not melt away. Instead of finding other useful jobs, they simply created an enemy -Russia- to fit their skill set and perpetuate their jobs.
Defense industries also favored Russia as an enemy. Russia inherited the Soviet Union's advanced weapons, so defense industries could continue developing advanced counter-capabilities if Russia was our enemy. At the beginning of the 1990s, the Chinese were the only other major military power and they were mainly still millions of guys with AKs. Selling counters to millions of guys with AKs did not have nearly the profit potential for defense industries as selling high-tech weapons to fight Russia.
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Just watched a video posted in here about some Ukrainian solders finding some wounded Russian soldiers and then they just execute them. Them make jokes about how they are not good at hiding.
I don’t have a side but like I said in a earlier post in this thread that there are 2 sides to each story. I just have a hard time supporting or believing ANYTHING the MSM is pushing.
Y’all need to think about that.
I don’t have a side but like I said in a earlier post in this thread that there are 2 sides to each story. I just have a hard time supporting or believing ANYTHING the MSM is pushing.
Y’all need to think about that.
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What exactly did we expect to happen after we promised Russia NATO would not extend an inch eastward and then extended it constantly until finally the Ukraine was talking about joining and even getting nukes? The elected crook (a crook indeed but still elected) we overthrew in 2014? The civil war simmering in Ukraine (Donbass) since 2014? The Minsk accords that neither the Ukraine nor the West ever honored? None of that is Russian propaganda just the facts.
I actually really dislike Putin on many levels but I can't say that I don't understand why he finally had enough.
I actually really dislike Putin on many levels but I can't say that I don't understand why he finally had enough.
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I have a friend in Germany, a good friend, we always argued about the response to Covid. Once it was all over I said we completely went bonkers and overreacted and he cited all "the numbers". I told him I don't believe those since they come from the same MSM that hyped up all the fake Trump scandals for years that turned out to be complete BS.
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You could easily be the person responsible for spreading propaganda. Do you really believe Russian soldiers would do this, video it, and put it out to the world?Since the other thread is spammed constantly every day with pro-russian propaganda and "we don't need to be involved in Russia's business" arguments, I decided to post a new thread with just a single video. This is why the rest of the civilized world is supporting Ukraine, this is why EVERY country that has ever broken away from Russia has no desire to return to their "friendship". It's a very simple and black and white choice, would you rather help the man in the hole, or the people outside the hole? Make your choice, live with it, but be prepared to be judged by your choice, in this life and the next.
Russian soldiers execute Ukrainian PoW after he says âGlory to Ukraineâ
Russian invaders have shot an unarmed Ukrainian prisoner of war after he said âGlory to Ukraineâ.www.pravda.com.ua
Russia is not the bad guy in this war. The deep state and the WEF (demons of the same cloth) coaxed Russia into war with Ukraine with threats of allowing Ukraine to join NATO.
Think about that.
It is no different than the Cuban Missile Crisis. We didn't want them that close and they don't want us that close either. Although, there never was a true intent to allow Ukraine to join NATO. Ultimately, the aforementioned want Russia gone or changed drastically, but they are in no hurry.
The war in Ukraine is simply the method being used to take away OUR wealth and ultimately cause our USA to implode.
POINTS TO CONSIDER
1. Billions sent to Ukraine involve huge sums laundered back to Democrats...and who knows who else?.
2. Ukraine has been the deep states money laundering center for years. How do you think the Biden's (all of them) became filthy rich? (as well as many more)
3. Russia refuses to conform to the wishes of the deep state by continuing to reject immorality such as transgenderism, homosexuality, wokism, sex with children, mutilation of children's genitals, etc.
4. Russia supports and encourages Christianity.
5. Russia protects it's children.
6. Russia rejects the WEF and has warned of the deep state for years, referring to our FBI and CIA as thugs. (Is there any doubt?).
The NATO governments, including ours, are doing these things to weaken the population while they strengthen themselves. It's all about control. The worst is yet to come. They are destroying our economies and our sources of energy and food. Russia has the fortitude to stand against them.
As bad as you (and I) may hate to admit it, truth is truth. The deep state that Trumps Presidency exposed is promoting anything that flies in the face of God to weaken the masses so they can pave the way for their master. Russia is the largest and most powerful country standing in their way. Don't forget that Russia has advanced nuclear weapons. Putin has not been sitting on his hands. This entire debacle we have witnessed for nearly 3 years is spiritual warfare. Keep your eyes and ears open, but understand what enters them deeply.
One last question. Who is described in the book of Revelation as the Whore of Babylon and also as Mystery Babylon? What happens to this nation? What nation could it possibly be? It isn't Russia.
The horse obviously ain't dead.Amen and Amen. This sums it up nicely enough to close the thread IMO. Y'all keep beating this dead horse if you wish.
